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Now, those last 2 posts were helpful, so I just ordered one and a BJC 6' to connect it with.
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Does anyone know if the UBK90 is going to get updated with more apps or is it Netflix only? I'm using my xbox1x as a streamer right now which is doing the job but just curious if we'll get anymore apps in the near future.
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Does anyone know if the UBK90 is going to get updated with more apps or is it Netflix only? I'm using my xbox1x as a streamer right now which is doing the job but just curious if we'll get anymore apps in the near future.
Most likely you need to buy the next year model for that.
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Does anyone know if the UBK90 is going to get updated with more apps or is it Netflix only? I'm using my xbox1x as a streamer right now which is doing the job but just curious if we'll get anymore apps in the near future.
I'm hoping the Netflix app gets updated for Dolby Vision.
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After reading thru this thread, it was determined there were far more positive comments about the UBK90 than negative ones, and I now have one arriving tomorrow. I am currently running a Samsung K8500, which I have had pretty solid performance from, except for no Dolby Vision. I'll keep both of them connected via my receiver. Thanks to everyone who commented and helped me decide.
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Does anyone know if the UBK90 is going to get updated with more apps or is it Netflix only? I'm using my xbox1x as a streamer right now which is doing the job but just curious if we'll get anymore apps in the near future.
I would not hold my breath waiting for it. IMO, a stand alone streamer is a better option, than apps that come on a player.

The way I see it, if they wanted to, they could have put all the "best" apps on the player out the box as another way to entice you to buy the player. But the price would have been more as well, so that may be a reason.

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I ran into an issue today with the player. Not sure how to describe it, but it seems to have crashed a few seconds after turning it on. Screen went white with some fine colored lines going across the screen. Turned it on/off solved it. Should have taken a pic.

Anyone else have this happen?
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Nothing like that yet (fingers crossed)

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My UBK90 arrived yesterday, it took a software update, and then I played Hitman's Bodyguard to get the Dolby Vision version. The movie looked and sounded great. I ejected the disc and then watched it on the same system with the Samsung K8500. The movie looked and sounded good with the K8500, but the Dolby Vision on the UBK90 really made this movie look so much better. I don't know if every Dolby Vision movie pops like this one does, but I am now looking forward to rewatching some 4K disks in my collection.

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I'm hoping the Netflix app gets updated for Dolby Vision.
The Netflix App has always been capable of Dolby Vision since the UBK90 was released you just need to have a display capable of Dolby Vision and of course the movie you play on Netflix has to be in Dolby Vision.
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After reading thru this thread, it was determined there were far more positive comments about the UBK90 than negative ones, and I now have one arriving tomorrow. I am currently running a Samsung K8500, which I have had pretty solid performance from, except for no Dolby Vision. I'll keep both of them connected via my receiver. Thanks to everyone who commented and helped me decide.
Im in your boat - I have had great luck with my Sammy 8500 but it will never support DV so I have to get a new player to get DV support. Very interested in this UBK90. Please post your thoughts ASAP when you get it!

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With the LG UBK90, does it apply Dolby Vision to EVERYTHING once its enabled in settings or does it intelligently apply DV to only discs that support DV and HDR10 for HDR10 titles?


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does anyone know why when i watch movies sometimes a globe icon appears then goes away at the top right of the screen i know its an lg thing from what i read but havent found a way to make it stop
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With the LG UBK90, does it apply Dolby Vision to EVERYTHING once its enabled in settings or does it intelligently apply DV to only discs that support DV and HDR10 for HDR10 titles?


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If a disc does not have Dolby Vision metadata in the video stream the player cannot switch to Dolby Vision, all HDR enabled UHD discs contain HDR10 but only some discs have Dolby Vision.
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If a disc does not have Dolby Vision metadata in the video stream the player cannot switch to Dolby Vision, all HDR enabled UHD discs contain HDR10 but only some discs have Dolby Vision.

Ok good. The Sony x700 applies DV to everything even if the disc doesn’t have DV metadata. That’s why I asked.


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does anyone know why when i watch movies sometimes a globe icon appears then goes away at the top right of the screen i know its an lg thing from what i read but havent found a way to make it stop
I've never seen that before. This with the UBK90?
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I've never seen that before. This with the UBK90?
I have noticed that globe also, I think it's an indication that you're connected to the internet.
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I have noticed that globe also, I think it's an indication that you're connected to the internet.
Hmm. I'm connected to the Interwebs. Is it every movie? Just watched a movie yesterday and nothing came up.
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its every movie ive watched on this player (ubk90). it never did it before with my samsung k8500 but i wanted this for dolby vision, i guess its not a big deal just annoying
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its every movie ive watched on this player (ubk90). it never did it before with my samsung k8500 but i wanted this for dolby vision, i guess its not a big deal just annoying
Honestly, I would exchange it if that's easy enough.
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To the owners out there: can you play files from a NAS on the UBK90? Read a lot about this player and the reviews seem didn't help me too. Can this UHD player run MKV/AVIs from a DLNA/NFS/SMB share?

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Hi everyone,


This may be a silly question, but I want to make sure I am getting full lossless sound.


I have an older 7.1 receiver, which, for whatever reason, never decodes Dolby Atmos content into full 7.1. Sometimes it puts out 5.1, sometimes even 6.1, but it never shows full 7.1 on Atmos tracks.


I just got a UBK90 and decided to use the PCM Multi-Ch out setting for audio. Am I right in assuming that this simply handles the decoding internally and sends out the lossless audio to the receiver?


My receiver is detecting proper 7.1 now, and I just wanted to make sure that there is no degradation in audio quality by using this setting over the Auto option where my receiver handles the decoding.


Thanks!
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Whoops, sorry for the typo :P

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does anyone know why when i watch movies sometimes a globe icon appears then goes away at the top right of the screen i know its an lg thing from what i read but havent found a way to make it stop
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Hmm. I'm connected to the Interwebs. Is it every movie? Just watched a movie yesterday and nothing came up.
The globe indicates that there is on-line content/info downloading and intermixing with the recorded menus providing extras and alt content. Some titles will have additional online content and others won't.

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After reading the manual, it seems that this player doesn't have any network/cloud/NAS support. So it can only play MKVs loaded on a USB drive/external disk. That's a deal breaker :/
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This may be a silly question, but I want to make sure I am getting full lossless sound.


I have an older 7.1 receiver, which, for whatever reason, never decodes Dolby Atmos content into full 7.1. Sometimes it puts out 5.1, sometimes even 6.1, but it never shows full 7.1 on Atmos tracks.


I just got a UBK90 and decided to use the PCM Multi-Ch out setting for audio. Am I right in assuming that this simply handles the decoding internally and sends out the lossless audio to the receiver?


My receiver is detecting proper 7.1 now, and I just wanted to make sure that there is no degradation in audio quality by using this setting over the Auto option where my receiver handles the decoding.


Thanks!
Yes, so long as your Receiver is not able to decode an Atmos Bitstream *AS* Atmos audio, you are fine letting the player do the decoding, and getting LPCM 7.1 sent to the Receiver.

I've written this up in my Blog post here:

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An Atmos track is a Dolby TrueHD 7.1 track with extra "sprinkles" which differentiate it as Atmos. Only an Atmos-capable decoder will use those sprinkles. The player will not use the sprinkles. And evidently your older Receiver ALSO will not use them.

But that means the decode should be of the underlying Dolby TrueHD 7.1 track. The fact your older Receiver is not decoding that into 7.1 speaker channels may indicate a mistake in your speaker configuration setup in the Receiver.

I recommend you play a calibration track while checking what's actually happening via the settings in your Receiver. You could use the Channel ID TrueHD 7.1 track from AIX Audio Calibration, Blu-ray. I've linked that disc in my Blog post here:

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Set the player to produce LPCM output and play that track. You should get individual test tones sent to each of your 7 speakers and the Subwoofer.

Now set the player to produce Bitstream output, play that track again (now with Dolby TrueHD 7.1 going to the Receiver), and compare the result. If you are not getting individual test tones to each of your 7 speakers and the Subwoofer, recheck BOTH your speaker configuration and "Surround Sound" processing options in the Receiver. You may not have configured your speaker setup correctly, or you may have a Surround Sound mode active which is limiting output to 5.1 or 6.1 speakers. Try turning any such Surround Sound Mode OFF so that the audio is sent to the speakers without any down-mixing or any creation of more speakers of output from fewer channels of content.

I've written THIS up in my Blog post here:

Understanding Downmix and Surround Sound Processing

Note that if your Receiver is old enough it may be limited in the type of Bitstreams it can handle. For example, even though it can receive LPCM 7.1, it may be limited to 5.1 for the Lossless Bitstreams (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA). In such case, the player would automatically send a 5.1 Bitstream instead (perhaps with "matrixed" content for a 6th, Center Rear, speaker). Often this means you will get the "Compatibility" track from the disc instead of the full Lossless track. Check if your Receiver says it is actually receiving Dolby TrueHD 7.1 -- even though it is only decoding that into 5.1 or 6.1 speaker output. The Compatibility track for this would instead show as Dolby Digital 5.1.

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If you ARE getting the Compatibility track, and if your Receiver is SUPPOSED TO be able to handle TrueHD 7.1 Bitstream input, double check that you have Blu-ray Secondary Audio Mixing turned OFF in the player.

Secondary Audio Mixing, combined with Bitstream audio output forces the player to output a lossless Bitstream -- DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1 -- whenever you are playing a Blu-ray disc which includes Secondary Audio anywhere in its contents.
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Yes, so long as your Receiver is not able to decode an Atmos Bitstream *AS* Atmos audio, you are fine letting the player do the decoding, and getting LPCM 7.1 sent to the Receiver.

I've written this up in my Blog post here:

Digital Audio 101

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An Atmos track is a Dolby TrueHD 7.1 track with extra "sprinkles" which differentiate it as Atmos. Only an Atmos-capable decoder will use those sprinkles. The player will not use the sprinkles. And evidently your older Receiver ALSO will not use them.

But that means the decode should be of the underlying Dolby TrueHD 7.1 track. The fact your older Receiver is not decoding that into 7.1 speaker channels may indicate a mistake in your speaker configuration setup in the Receiver.

I recommend you play a calibration track while checking what's actually happening via the settings in your Receiver. You could use the Channel ID TrueHD 7.1 track from AIX Audio Calibration, Blu-ray. I've linked that disc in my Blog post here:

Calibration Discs

Set the player to produce LPCM output and play that track. You should get individual test tones sent to each of your 7 speakers and the Subwoofer.

Now set the player to produce Bitstream output, play that track again (now with Dolby TrueHD 7.1 going to the Receiver), and compare the result. If you are not getting individual test tones to each of your 7 speakers and the Subwoofer, recheck BOTH your speaker configuration and "Surround Sound" processing options in the Receiver. You may not have configured your speaker setup correctly, or you may have a Surround Sound mode active which is limiting output to 5.1 or 6.1 speakers. Try turning any such Surround Sound Mode OFF so that the audio is sent to the speakers without any down-mixing or any creation of more speakers of output from fewer channels of content.

I've written THIS up in my Blog post here:

Understanding Downmix and Surround Sound Processing

Note that if your Receiver is old enough it may be limited in the type of Bitstreams it can handle. For example, even though it can receive LPCM 7.1, it may be limited to 5.1 for the Lossless Bitstreams (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA). In such case, the player would automatically send a 5.1 Bitstream instead (perhaps with "matrixed" content for a 6th, Center Rear, speaker). Often this means you will get the "Compatibility" track from the disc instead of the full Lossless track. Check if your Receiver says it is actually receiving Dolby TrueHD 7.1 -- even though it is only decoding that into 5.1 or 6.1 speaker output. The Compatibility track for this would instead show as Dolby Digital 5.1.

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ETA:

If you ARE getting the Compatibility track, and if your Receiver is SUPPOSED TO be able to handle TrueHD 7.1 Bitstream input, double check that you have Blu-ray Secondary Audio Mixing turned OFF in the player.

Secondary Audio Mixing, combined with Bitstream audio output forces the player to output a lossless Bitstream -- DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1 -- whenever you are playing a Blu-ray disc which includes Secondary Audio anywhere in its contents.
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Thanks, Bob! This is incredibly helpful. I failed to mention that my speaker setup is only 5.1. Based on your post, it sounds possible that when 'bitstreaming' these Atmos tracks, the player determines that the full 7.1 is not needed, and therefore only sends 5.1. Whereas with other 7.1 content, all channels are sent and the receiver handles the mixing to 5.1 itself.

I also really appreciate the point about getting the lossy compatibility track. Fortunately, in all bitstream instances, the receiver is detecting Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA.

Thanks again,
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Hi All! Is there an owners thread set up yet? Or has this become that thread? I just wanted to somehow verify that I have all of the settings for the player set up correctly. I am coming from the Samsung K8500, which I still have hooked up also. But the settings and options are very different between the 2 players.

My main question, which I think was addressed here earlier, is if it should be set to 24hz or 60hz (default). I saw a post here that said it should be 24hz, with a follow-up from the person who asked that they got motion issues with a UHD disc when it was set to 24hz, but no issue with 60hz. I changed it to 24hz on setup, and did not notice any motion issues. Just wanted to validate which setting makes the most sense to use.

Last night, I was testing Black Panther UHD running both players through my Denon X2400 AVR, to my LG B6. The LG UBK90 was louder vs the Samsung K8500. It was not very noticeable though. Just want to know if this player is just louder in general, and that I do not have an issue like the LG player from last year. Everything I have read on here says that the loudness issue from last year's player is gone.

Also, my LG player seemed to turn on, on it's own, any time my Denon turned on, even if I am using Directv through the CBL input, not the Bluray input, on the AVR. Anyone else experience this?

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My decision to upgrade from the ub900 is solely based on the difference the tone mapping improvement is for my JVC 620 projector. Dolby Vision is irrelevant to us mid-range projector owners.

I already get a tremendous HDR picture thanks to ChadB's calibration. But I'd fork out some money for dynamic tone mapping for bright and dark scenes if it made a difference.

I've read small complaints about build quality and noise from the ub820, but mine sits in a cabinet 10 feet behind me, so I wouldn't hear it anyway.

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