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From everything I have read, the closest you can get to a OPPO is the Panasonic UB9000 with the UB820 being a step down in audio capabilities and metal chassie. The Pioneer UDP-LX800/LX500 would be next, but a lot more expensive.
The Panasonic players are not universal players as they do not have DVD-A or SACD playback. So they are not really close in comparison to Oppo players IMO. The Pioneer LX500 would be the choice if one is looking for a universal player. The Pioneer LX500 can be found easily for $999 which is the same price as the Panasonic 9000. The Pioneer LX800 is much more expensive but offers far better analog SQ than any of the above mentioned players. The LX800 will not be sold in the US per Pioneer.

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The Panasonic players are not universal players as they do not have DVD-A or SACD playback. So they are not really close in comparison to Oppo players IMO. The Pioneer LX500 would be the choice if one is looking for a universal player. The Pioneer LX500 can be found easily for $999 which is the same price as the Panasonic 9000. The Pioneer LX800 is much more expensive but offers far better analog SQ than any of the above mentioned players. The LX800 will not be sold in the US per Pioneer.

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Well, I own 3 Oppo 203s (and plan to hang onto them), but I see them becoming obsolete, esp for someone that has a new JVC projector as I do. The JVC - Panasonic alliance for tone mapping to the projector seems like a really big plus for us.

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Well, I own 3 Oppo 203s (and plan to hang onto them), but I see them becoming obsolete, esp for someone that has a new JVC projector as I do. The JVC - Panasonic alliance for tone mapping to the projector seems like a really big plus for us.
If they are obsolete to you, seems like a prime time to sell to those that want them.
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While looking to upgrade to UDP-205, I noticed the prices of these orphaned Oppo players just went up 2-3x on ebay/Amazon and become effectively collector's items.

UDP-105 $1200
UDP-203 $1700
UDP-205 $3300

I guess I'll be holding on to my 105 for a while longer.
Which is totally ridiculous, but as long as people keep paying these prices then it is what it is. When the Oppo buying frenzy reaches it's saturation point, then the prices will drop. If you plan on selling, now is the time. If you plan on buying, I'd wait a year or so if you can.

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Well, I own 3 Oppo 203s (and plan to hang onto them), but I see them becoming obsolete, esp for someone that has a new JVC projector as I do. The JVC - Panasonic alliance for tone mapping to the projector seems like a really big plus for us.
I would hold onto at least 1 of the 203's. If Madshi can release a standalone device with MadVR dynamic tone mapping, it's will exceed the capabilities of the static mapping used by Panasonic & JVC.

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The Oppo still has the 1 killer feature for UHD network media playback that unfortunately the Panasonic will never have. I still have my 820 but it sits mostly idle as most of my content is on local storage.
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Which is totally ridiculous, but as long as people keep paying these prices then it is what it is. When the Oppo buying frenzy reaches it's saturation point, then the prices will drop. If you plan on selling, now is the time. If you plan on buying, I'd wait a year or so if you can.
Exactly...reminds me of the days when plasma Tv's were discontinued and people were asking thousands of dollars for their Tv's

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Well, I own 3 Oppo 203s (and plan to hang onto them), but I see them becoming obsolete, esp for someone that has a new JVC projector as I do. The JVC - Panasonic alliance for tone mapping to the projector seems like a really big plus for us.
I've read the Panasonic 9000 thread from the beginning and it seems like a great player. But the one thing that seems to be the claim to fame for 9000 and other Panasonic players are use with JVC projectors. That seems like a fairly limited consumer base. Unless one has a projector the Oppo or other 4k Blu-ray players would suffice with other display types. But my knowledge of 4k player capabilities is very limited as I still have a 1080p plasma.

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I would hold onto at least 1 of the 203's. If Madshi can release a standalone device with MadVR dynamic tone mapping, it's will exceed the capabilities of the static mapping used by Panasonic & JVC.

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The Oppo still has the 1 killer feature for UHD network media playback that unfortunately the Panasonic will never have. I still have my 820 but it sits mostly idle as most of my content is on local storage.
Yeah, well I have zero interest in ripping any of my blu-rays. I really don't watch too many movies so playing discs is actually easier than bothering with ripping. Also, it seems MadVR only runs on Windows and I only use Windows under duress...I'm a FreeBSD kinda guy.

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No you're very smart. I'm not selling any of my Oppo players. I certainly wouldn't sell one for a Sony. I had a number of Sony CD, SACD and DVD players over the years. Every single one of them stopped playing discs or just flat out died within two years time. Total garbage players with even worse customer service.

I recently bought a used 83 from a member here for a great price. The faceplate was scratched so I contacted Oppo to see if they had any new faceplates. They did and sold me one and included a disc draw front cover and an Oppo bag. All I paid for was the front faceplate with the drawer cover and Oppo bag for no charge. Try getting service like that from Sony. Oppo Digital is technically "out of business" and they still offer far greater service than Sony who is still in business ever has .

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Of course I also had an Oppo UHD BD player. But like a dumbass I sold it in favor of the SOny UHD BD player a couple of years ago. Although with the current prices the Oppo players are going for, even if I had kept the Oppo, I would have sold it by now for the high profit margin.

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Maybe I am really off base, but it seems that running my video sources like Dish DVR and Roku through an Oppo 103 and out to my projector gives me much improved PQ than directly connecting either to the projector. Am I seeing things? If this is real is there another video processor that can do the same thing since Oppo is gone? Thanks.
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Yeah, well I have zero interest in ripping any of my blu-rays. I really don't watch too many movies so playing discs is actually easier than bothering with ripping. Also, it seems MadVR only runs on Windows and I only use Windows under duress...I'm a FreeBSD kinda guy.
The MadVR Envy is an upcoming standalone hardware implementation of MadVR, that will accept input from external HDMI devices, and perform processing on them, as opposed to playing back files on a windows based HTPC and doing the processing there, like the current software only MadVR implementation. In other words, the MadVR Envy is exactly what you would want in your scenario.
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No you're very smart. I'm not selling any of my Oppo players. I certainly wouldn't sell one for a Sony. I had a number of Sony CD, SACD and DVD players over the years. Every single one of them stopped playing discs or just flat out died within two years time. Total garbage players with even worse customer service.

I recently bought a used 83 from a member here for a great price. The faceplate was scratched so I contacted Oppo to see if they had any new faceplates. They did and sold me one and included a disc draw front cover and an Oppo bag. All I paid for was the front faceplate with the drawer cover and Oppo bag for no charge. Try getting service like that from Sony. Oppo Digital is technically "out of business" and they still offer far greater service than Sony who is still in business ever has .

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I considered selling my 203 to make some $$$, and then buy one of the newer, cheaper players that has Dolby Vision. But you know what...the Oppo is just a superior build quality compared to the rest. I'm loving this thing, so I'm keeping it.

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I considered selling my 203 to make some $$$, and then buy one of the newer, cheaper players that has Dolby Vision. But you know what...the Oppo is just a superior build quality compared to the rest. I'm loving this thing, so I'm keeping it.
Smart move! I'm not selling any of my Oppo players. Doesn't the 203/205 have Dolby Vision?

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Smart move! I'm not selling any of my Oppo players. Doesn't the 203/205 have Dolby Vision?

Do the UDP-203 and UDP-205 support Dolby Vision?

Yes, as of June 2017, both players have support for Dolby Vision.


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Yeah it has DV. What I meant was that I could've sold my Oppo for a lot more than I paid for it, then net some $$$ by just getting a cheaper player that also does DV(they're like $200 now).

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If you sell a great player and by a cheaper player, you have a cheap player. Soon the money you think you made will be gone and you’ll still have a cheap player. Duh.
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If you sell a great player and by a cheaper player, you have a cheap player. Soon the money you think you made will be gone and you’ll still have a cheap player. Duh.
I agree 100%. I have a new 205 in a sealed box that I could easily get twice for what I paid for it direct from Oppo. I haven't even been remotely tempted to sell it. I doubt that there will be any players like those from Oppo being sold by anyone in the future. So making the investment to "future proof" my disc playing options is well worth it IMO.

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If you sell a great player and by a cheaper player, you have a cheap player. Soon the money you think you made will be gone and you’ll still have a cheap player. Duh.
I totally agree with this. I’m not getting rid of my players either. Bought them both for their superior build quality and performance. I still use my 103d way more than my 203.

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If you sell a great player and by a cheaper player, you have a cheap player. Soon the money you think you made will be gone and you’ll still have a cheap player. Duh.
That doesn't make any sense. It makes the irrational assumption that cheaper is worse. Having a "cheap" player isn't the same as having a cheap-ER player. Logic is your friend...duh.

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Those cheaper players are unlikely to serve as media players.

I routinely use my OPPO to play content from DLNA and NFS. What cheapER player can do that?
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Hard to believe in 2 weeks we will have hit the 1 year mark when we learned about Oppo's future.

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And I'm still very pleased with the OPPO support. Before the announcement, I had an 83 and a 103D. After it, I bought a 203 and a PM-3 set of earphones.

All have performed perfectly. In 12 years of ownership, I have not had to send any player (including my parent's rock solid BDP-80) to be serviced.

Once OPPO does ride into the sunset, I expect that I would have my players keep working for me.

Looking forward to the next firmware update for the 203.
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So we still don't have a consensus replacement machine?
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was looking for more information on what does what well from people that have looked prior to me.
Buying a 203 at current prices isn't an option, but they may come down at some point
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The Panny and Oppo shoot out! The grey load up screen on the Panny would drive me nuts.


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Well, I missed the chance to get the 203. I still have my old 103 (bought in 2012) and it upscales to 4K pretty damn good. However, I bought the xBox One S for real 4K and games as a bonus (which more than makes up for the lack of Dolby Vision, which I get through Netflix). I´m very happy.
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I considered selling my 203 to make some $$$, and then buy one of the newer, cheaper players that has Dolby Vision. But you know what...the Oppo is just a superior build quality compared to the rest. I'm loving this thing, so I'm keeping it.
I would never sell either of mine. Just a few days ago I started backing up my 4K Blu-rays and now I have several hosted on my NAS, go into the "Network" section, find the movie I want to watch and then bam, plays just like the disc is in the tray but through the network with full menus, Dolby Vision, lossless audio and all.
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I still have a oppo 203, I used to have two but I sold one of theme. I was not greedy I sold it for $700 which I thought was reasonable. Anything more than that is just ripping someone off and asking for bad karma.

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Originally Posted by Dave-T View Post
I still have a oppo 203, I used to have two but I sold one of theme. I was not greedy I sold it for $700 which I thought was reasonable. Anything more than that is just ripping someone off and asking for bad karma.

Dave-
Well, you missed a great opportunity. Selling something for the current market price is not going to bring anyone bad karma. Now, listing the item's condition inaccurately or mis-classifying it's condition is another story.
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