Originally Posted by RoadLizard
Oh - focusing on PQ is exactly what we should be doing! The UHD players main task is to play discs and produce PQ. Its priority #1
. So yeah, because pretty much ANY player out there displays a terrific UHD image on a good TV certainly does give it a lot of "credence". Me and many others have already correctly stated that all of that other "fluff" that these Oppos do is not applicable to a huge number of people. Those are the facts. SACD support? Analog audio outs? DVD audio support? Like tits on a boar hog for most people. Useless. IMO, Oppo should have ditched some of that and made a solid $299 player. Too late now.
This is both an audio and video forum, remember? Yes, this subforum is limited to discussion of Blu-ray players, but the Oppo is a jack of many trades. In your attempt to diminish the feature set, you forgot about build quality, continued firmware updates through the years, and customer service (resale value is a side benefit; I know, you don't give an eff)
Dolby Vision support is "useful" but HDR gets the job done and quite frankly its silly for peope to have to screw around with multiple HDR formats. Its just dumb. Pick one and lets roll with it. What other "must-have" features are there? Ill answer - none. Its ALL about the PQ and the ability to play discs that the owner inserts into the tray. For this, there are plenty of players out there handle this perfectly well.
HDR10 is half-baked especially for us with our 750-nit OLEDs, and they will never support the add-on features that HDR10+ is promising. Dolby Vision is adapted to the capability of one's TV, which points back to your previous concern about PQ, which I assume you were being truthful about?
So, yeah - Oppos strengths did become less relevant. And, supporting micro-niche 2-channel CD formats is great but it cant help sustain the product line. Anyone into high end 2-channle audio would be using a specific CD player or a discrete DAC all that stuff.
I am not currently sporting an analog audio setup, but lossless digital audio at higher sampling rates and across 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound (and there are hundreds of albums available in SACD/DVD-A, with some digital audio stores also selling wares in digital format) is a revelation. Of course, those with surround sound audio at home are a part of a niche themselves.
I don't know, you almost seem HAPPY that there's not a high-end all-in-one box available anymore (and you keep belittling the feature set as worthless), and it's rubbing me the wrong way. I'd better go cool down.