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I can’t believe Oppo went out of business, I had a BDP-95 and now have a 205 and just purchased a HA-1

I’m so sad, I loved Oppo products...
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Just came back from Oppo.
205 is GONE. No wait list, no more production, its over folks.
Glad I have my 205. Very sorry that it's now apparently a collectors item.
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Kaleidescape and Classe made similar announcements and both were rescued with fresh funding/ purchase of the product line in a relatively short time

based on the response to this thread, I would think the chances are pretty good that OPPO BD players may somehow be resurrected...
I had noticed the curious coincidence of the Farewell announcement and Easter.

Although I suppose it might take more than 3 days...
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Making a trip into the US in a couple of weeks, be nice to pick one up in Oregon and save the tax... I tried to enter Portland Oregon as a location, couldn't get a store to come up?


On the Magnolia site they didn't list Oppo players?
I recall there being something about the in-store(Best Buy) Magnolia locations needed to be Design Center locations and not just regular Magnolia stores. Those Design Center locations are the ones that actually stock these additional brands/models though I believe any location can have the Oppo shipped for store pickup in a few days. This may have changed in the last few years. My local store in Santa Rosa, Ca is a Design Center location.

There's a store locator dropdown in the upper right just below the Best Buy banner.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/electro...at139900050002
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Glad I have my 205. Very sorry that it's now apparently a collectors item.
You may have missed this Late Breaking Update from OPPO regarding the 205:

https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-...lastbatch.aspx

Anyone eager for another batch of OPPO 205 players should sign up on the interest list.
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I just purchased the 205, the store will drop it off on Monday. Like many the Oppo news caught me off guard and I wasn't planning starting the 4k move until next year but with my Denon DVD-A1UDCI Blu-ray player no longer reading any red laser based discs (for the 2nd time, I had the complete drive mechanism replaced back in 2013) and getting picky with blu-rays I need something to continue to play my DVD-A's and SACD's. The Denon was the worst piece of electronics I ever purchased where reliability is concerned. That drive seems to only have a 4 year life span and in that time it received only moderate usage during both stints.

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Projector home theaters are pretty common in certain parts of the country. For instance, there are a ton of companies in Texas that do home theaters like this. Big houses with lots of room for dedicated theaters. You don't see very many in more congested living areas.
Sure, but it's still a tiny minority of people who have setups like that and care that much about the quality.

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I own a 78" Samsung HDR TV and there is a HUGE difference in Picture and SOUND quality between physical disc and Vudu UHD. Especially the sound is night and day difference.
I've never compared UHD streaming and UHD BD, but I have compared 1080p streaming and BD, and I can't tell the difference on a good encode. The encode quality seems to vary a lot on Vudu, that's my main issue, at least it did last time I tried it.

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You may have missed this Late Breaking Update from OPPO regarding the 205:

https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-...lastbatch.aspx

Anyone eager for another batch of OPPO 205 players should sign up on the interest list.
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And even after a final run, it'll STILL be a collector's item!
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Like most, this unexpected announcement forced my hand even though i do not have a 4K TV...yet.
I placed an order for the 203 having been thoroughly pleased with my 103 and then 103D.

And for me this is one of the very rare times i'll pay full MSRP for any product and not think twice about it.

Love me some OPPO.

Signed up for the 205 as well.

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^ The other problem, of course, is that Nothing Lasts Forever on streaming.

Want to revisit that streamed flick you liked so much 3 years ago? Don't be surprised if it simply isn't available anymore, or is only available in a more compressed (smaller size -- lower quality) streaming transfer.

Discs don't do that. Nor are they affected by congestion problems on the Internet during prime viewing hours.
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^ The other problem, of course, is that Nothing Lasts Forever on streaming.

Want to revisit that streamed flick you liked so much 3 years ago? Don't be surprised if it simply isn't available anymore, or is only available in a more compressed (smaller size -- lower quality) streaming transfer.

Discs don't do that. Nor are they affected by congestion problems on the Internet during prime viewing hours.
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EXACTLY. Well said.
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I was in my local Magnolia this afternoon. They told me their 205s were gone with a few 203s in the warehouse.

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It’s amazing to read some of the stupid comments by OPPO bashers. We all know a Honda Civic takes you to work everyday as a McLaren would. The ride is different however.
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It’s amazing to read some of the stupid comments by OPPO bashers. We all know a Honda Civic takes you to work everyday as a McLaren would. The ride is different however.
I haven't seen any oppo bashing in this thread.
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^ The other problem, of course, is that Nothing Lasts Forever on streaming.

Want to revisit that streamed flick you liked so much 3 years ago? Don't be surprised if it simply isn't available anymore, or is only available in a more compressed (smaller size -- lower quality) streaming transfer.

Discs don't do that. Nor are they affected by congestion problems on the Internet during prime viewing hours.
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Exactly I have been using Netflix streaming for 2 years now and stuff comes and go and nothing stays with them. They have alot of B movies for streaming that I have no interest in viewing, they have good movies on there but nothing that tops a personal disc collection of favorite movies. They have to obviously pay the studio for the title so that's why stuff comes and goes, the license expires for a movie. So yes streaming is not reliable just convenient to have all those movies with the click of a remote. I would rather not have to rely on the internet to dictate what I can and can't watch and when. A disc collection has it's advantages.
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Now the question is how much longer the Region Free Mods will be around from places like JVB Digital. Though I have yet to have one fail I just picked up another one for my 205 that's on its way giving me a least 2 for future proofing.
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If you go to the actual Magnolia site the stores should show up. I believe there are a few in Portland last I checked. They do not list Oppo on the site if that is what you are asking.
Yes, looking to check stock at a Magnolia store for an Oppo UDP-203... otherwise you could do a lot of driving!
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Now the question is how much longer the Region Free Mods will be around from places like JVB Digital. Though I have yet to have one fail I just picked up another one for my 205 that's on its way giving me a least 2 for future proofing.
Aren’t UHD disks all region free?

That means you don’t need your 205 to be region free for all other formats. It’s an excuse to have a 2nd, much less expensive OPPO player in the system (ie 83, 93, 95, 103, 105) to do that 🙂
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Aren’t UHD disks all region free?

That means you don’t need your 205 to be region free for all other formats. It’s an excuse to have a 2nd, much less expensive OPPO player in the system (ie 83, 93, 95, 103, 105) to do that 🙂
UHD are indeed region free but Blu-ray and DVD may not be. I already re-purposed my 103D mod to the 203 but feel better picking up a 2nd one to future proof as I have a ton of titles that I've picked up from overseas through the years.
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Magnolia Design Center in the Richfield, MN Best Buy was still showing warehouse stock for the UDP-205 as of 3:00 PM CDT today.
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I can't speak to stock in Canada but the northern California Magnolia HiFi/Best Buy system had 300 model 203's in stock as of April 6th.
Thanks for all of your replies, for me on a road trip it is important to know 'where' to go to pick one up, I guess that I could call the stores to find out.

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^ Perhaps order from your selected store by phone for pick up. They should be able to confirm a unit will get to them from the warehouse by a specific date, to be held for pick up, assuming you’ve paid.
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But with the copies you get from iTunes you get HDR grading and typically Dolby Vision where HDR has always mattered more to me than raw resolution since a lot of films come from 2K DIs anyway.
It's more about compression (bitrate) than raw resolution. 4K compressed (as is common in streamed and downloaded files) many times can end up looking worse than a standard 1080P blu-ray. HDR is nice as long as a quality codec and bitrate are used as well, to keep the picture sharp, detailed, and free from artifacts, especially noticeable in dark scenes.
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It's more about compression (bitrate) than raw resolution. 4K compressed (as is common in streamed and downloaded files) many times can end up looking worse than a standard 1080P blu-ray. HDR is nice as long as a quality codec and bitrate are used as well, to keep the picture sharp, detailed, and free from artifacts, especially noticeable in dark scenes.
Yup. iTunes uses the highest bitrate of any of the streaming services.

Any movie I care about having the best quality, I always buy on disc but iTunes 4K HDR content is certainly nothing to sneeze at.
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For those posting that a cheaper player would have sold better, let me remind you that Oppo tried that once with the BDP-80. It was supposed to be a budget version of the BDP-83 and I bought one for my bedroom. Oppo discontinued it soon after because they just did not sell.
Never heard of it. Apparently, Oppo's marketing needed to be better as well. Also, according to this review, https://www.cnet.com/products/oppo-bdp-80/review/ , it wasn't that good of a player in terms of performance and features. I was actually surprised to read that Oppo would make such a sub-par product and still charge $300 for it. If you're going to release a $300 player that has less features and performs worse in some key areas than a $150 player, then no surprise, it won't sell well.

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I just don't understand how a lot of you think; it's like you're living in a dream world where Oppo is providing you with the essentials of life - "It's my precious!" These Oppos are NOT going to be collector items in the realm of home video - even if 4K HDR on BR is the last physical format, you're already behind the 8 ball since HDMI 2.1 is about to roll out. Furthermore, the Oppo's DAC is superior to most other player's DAC, but that's about all it has going against the $99 players (yes, I know you're excited about touching the metal case, and hearing that smooth motor suck in the robust tray) - 4K is 4K is 4K. I will put my $99 LG UHD player against any Oppo in a double blind test and no difference will be noticed, assuming both display sources are equal. But, no, just keep telling your wife that the 2-3 extra Oppos you bought are a sound investment for the future. Seriously, can we have sense of logic in this forum - it appears to only be filled with emotion and waxing nostalgic over some overpriced no-name (to the rest of the world) Chinese junk.... like the junk that everyone else, including me has, except we didn't overpay for it.
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UHD are indeed region free but Blu-ray and DVD may not be. I already re-purposed my 103D mod to the 203 but feel better picking up a 2nd one to future proof as I have a ton of titles that I've picked up from overseas through the years.
Yes the 205 is and every 4K UHD player is region free for 4K UHD BD because it has no region code restriction. Personally I have a 203 that has the plug in region mod to play a Region B disc. I am trying to avoid adding more Region B titles to my disc collection. I only have like 10 to 15 titles now that are Region B Locked. 4K UHD BD has reminded me how old that Region lock thing really is, been there done that with DVD just want to avoid the hassle. I just want to be able to play the move no headache
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Thanks for all of your replies, for me on a road trip it is important to know 'where' to go to pick one up, I guess that I could call the stores to find out.
I forgot to ask about Oregon and Washington when I was in the MagHiFi store today but in California, there's still around 300 203's but no 205's at all, in fact, they've been back-ordered to the tune of about 50-70 units, all stores are out of the 205. Big sales numbers for the 205 this week starting the day of the announcement.

As Bob noted, just call the store and ask.

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I just don't understand how a lot of you think; it's like you're living in a dream world where Oppo is providing you with the essentials of life - "It's my precious!" These Oppos are NOT going to be collector items in the realm of home video - even if 4K HDR on BR is the last physical format, you're already behind the 8 ball since HDMI 2.1 is about to roll out.
So you brought up HDMI 2.1 and people will have to upgrade their 4K HDTV's and disc players to support it as well as have a compatible HDMI cable. So why did Oppo bow out of making disc players if in a few years time people will have to upgrade their equipment to have the latest and greatest with HDMI 2.1.
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