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post #2521 of 3355 Old 05-23-2018, 04:53 PM
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So after another couple of email exchanges I learned that there will be invitations to purchase the UDP-205 units in the order of interest sign ups that were posted to the Oppo site. Those of us who signed up and then confirmed our email addresses via the link sent out on approximately 5/9 will receive invitations to purchase in a number of waves until all the units are gone. Sounds fair and ethical except probably to the fence sitters who watched and waited without signing up of course.
I agree with that process. If one signed up early for the 205 availability then they should be contacted first. Some might not agree with that but I feel it's fair. If one has any interest in the 205 they should sign up and see no reason not to. It doesn't mean that one has to buy the 205 if contacted. So I don't see any downsides at all for signing up.

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Just ordered a back-up UDP-203 from Value Electronics.
Also, on OPPO's website, I registered for the Potential Availability of the 203.
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Just ordered a back-up UDP-203 from Value Electronics.
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Also, on OPPO's website, I registered for the Potential Availability of the 203.
So that's a backup to the backup, lol?
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So that's a backup to the backup, lol?
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...Also, on OPPO's website, I registered for the Potential Availability of the 203.
Thank you for that bullet...I've all but given up hope on getting an OPPO in my hands. The 205 is beyond by budget range and the 203 has been just out of reach, especially given that this is only component 2 of 3 needed for my ongoing AV system upgrade...I have a DV enabled AVR but not the TV or a BDP/UDP...yet. Wife is against replacing the TV until we can finish the basement and that's at least a year away.

My biggest concern is that HDMI 2.1 is right around the corner..is there any chance that the OPPOs will be firmware upgradeable to that? If not it probably makes more sense for me to TRY and be patient and wait until I'm closer to being able to put it all together.

Now I will just have to wait and see what comes of any new availability and hope for the best.
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Thank you for that bullet...I've all but given up hope on getting an OPPO in my hands. The 205 is beyond by budget range and the 203 has been just out of reach, especially given that this is only component 2 of 3 needed for my ongoing AV system upgrade...I have a DV enabled AVR but not the TV or a BDP/UDP...yet. Wife is against replacing the TV until we can finish the basement and that's at least a year away.

My biggest concern is that HDMI 2.1 is right around the corner..is there any chance that the OPPOs will be firmware upgradeable to that? If not it probably makes more sense for me to TRY and be patient and wait until I'm closer to being able to put it all together.

Now I will just have to wait and see what comes of any new availability and hope for the best.
No, no chance at all. HDMI 2.1 increased transmission bandwidth and data channel will require a new HDMI chipset.
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My biggest concern is that HDMI 2.1 is right around the corner..is there any chance that the OPPOs will be firmware upgradeable to that?
You wouldn't need 2.1 in your OPPO, in order to have it feed a newer, 2.1-capable receiver, and/or TV. If you would be happy to have the (many) current features in the 203, that's really the main driver for procuring one, or not. It'll still be able to feed upstream 2.1-based devices.
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Well after stating earlier in this thread that I wasn't going to buy a 205 after having one in my cart at crutchfield and deleting it I went ahead and signed up a few weeks back for the 205 and signed up again for the 203 when the last batch ran out a few days ago. Well today I got a notice that the 203 was available. I wrote Oppo and asked how long I had to make a decision on buying another 203 vs taking a chance on the 205. They told me that at the current burn rate they had enough 203s for about 1/2 a week and then that would be it, no more, nada. He also said there was no guarantee I'd get a 205 as they had more sign up than availability in production. I figured I was probably safe as I signed up for the 205 fairly early, but regardless you know the old saying; 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush', so I purchased a backup 203 just now. I currently have a 203 and 95 in my rack. the 95 is hooked up to a Burson Audio headphone amp, and the 203 of course gets video, but since the Burson also has two inputs, the 203 is hooked via analog to the headphone amp as well. I've done critical listening test via analog of the 203 and 95 with my headphone rig and to be honest I concur with Audioholics assessment of the difference between the 203 and 205, it's hard to tell a difference. That was another factor in just purchasing the 203, it' is a very good player in its own right, even for analog.

I will keep the 95 in the rack and use it for music still. I'll put the new 203 in place of my existing 203. The logic behind that is I know nothing is wrong with my existing 203. If you are buying a backup, put the backup in and put your existing in backup. I deal with reliability in my business, and consumer electronics (or non consumer for that matter) has a higher early failure rate (called infant mortality), so you want to make sure to wring the new player out past infant mortality (200 hours should be good). Then you'll know both your players are in good shape for the long haul. After infant mortality failure rates bottom out until they slowly start to climb due to age and use related failures (can't make grandpa immortal!).

Anyway, good luck for all waiting on a 205, I'm sure it's an awesome player. But if you've settled for a 203, I wouldn't be disappointed, it's a darn good player as well.
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Hey guys. I'm about to pick up a 203 and there is one item I noticed in the FAQ which is giving me pause:

Cinavia is more strictly enforced, applying to USB hard drives and DLNA, SMB and NFS networking, as well as optical discs as before (it is not detected over the HDMI input last time I checked, nor over HDMI ARC, but that could change)

In my current environment I have 100's of lossless MKV rips of my Blu-rays with about another 1000 rips to go (it's a slow process!). There are no issues playing these through my 103D players, but I want to make sure that if I select these MKV's via the 203 that I won't run into an issue with Cinavia warnings. If it matters, all these MKVs are on my Plex server and are bring fed to my Oppo's via Ethernet.
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Hey guys. I'm about to pick up a 203 and there is one item I noticed in the FAQ which is giving me pause:

Cinavia is more strictly enforced, applying to USB hard drives and DLNA, SMB and NFS networking, as well as optical discs as before (it is not detected over the HDMI input last time I checked, nor over HDMI ARC, but that could change)

In my current environment I have 100's of lossless MKV rips of my Blu-rays with about another 1000 rips to go (it's a slow process!). There are no issues playing these through my 103D players, but I want to make sure that if I select these MKV's via the 203 that I won't run into an issue with Cinavia warnings. If it matters, all these MKVs are on my Plex server and are bring fed to my Oppo's via Ethernet.
You will run into the issue on rips from discs that have Cinavia. Which is a minority of discs, mostly Sony, but some big titles.

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You will run into the issue on rips from discs that have Cinavia. Which is a minority of discs, mostly Sony, but some big titles.

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Thanks for the quick reply, Bill.

I was thinking of selling my 103D's and replacing them with the 203's, but it sounds like I should keep at least one to handle the Cinavia titles.

I'm assuming there are no issues with Cinavia on 4K UHD titles if I end up ripping lossless versions of those to my server in MKV format? I've only got 5 discs now, but I plan to buy lots more and I'm also hoping an affordable software ripper appears (last I checked the one that was available was very expensive).
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Thanks for the quick reply, Bill.

I was thinking of selling my 103D's and replacing them with the 203's, but it sounds like I should keep at least one to handle the Cinavia titles.

I'm assuming there are no issues with Cinavia on 4K UHD titles if I end up ripping lossless versions of those to my server in MKV format? I've only got 5 discs now, but I plan to buy lots more and I'm also hoping an affordable software ripper appears (last I checked the one that was available was very expensive).
I forget if Cinavia has been used on UHD. If it has I suspect it will be detected and enforced.

There is always the option of spinning the original disc.

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They told me that at the current burn rate they had enough 203s for about 1/2 a week and then that would be it, no more, nada.
Well, you just lit a fire under my a$$ with that declaration. I could no longer procrastinate and nabbed my 203 backup this evening (Paypal 6-month 0% APR being my sole saving grace). I actually may end up using it in the bedroom (very) occasionally, thus I still feel justified in calling it a backup.
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Last night I got a link to purchase at 203. I was not ready to buy as this morning had to move funds around to buy. Now I click the link and link expired. I emailed them to see what happened. But this is what the link goes too.

This is the first wave with 3 waves and the third being the biggest.
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My house if full of Oppos going back to the 970 and I was going for the 203 but now I think its time to move on. Oppo was amazing but they took themselves out of the future.

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Last night I got a link to purchase at 203. I was not ready to buy as this morning had to move funds around to buy. Now I click the link and link expired. I emailed them to see what happened. But this is what the link goes too.

This is the first wave with 3 waves and the third being the biggest.

I also got the notification yesterday. I went ahead and ordered one even though I still do not have a 4k TV yet. I figure I can sell my 103d for a decent price and re-coup most of the cost of the 203.

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I also got the notification yesterday. I went ahead and ordered one even though I still do not have a 4k TV yet. It figure I can sell my 103d for a decent price and re-coup most of the cost of the 203.
I want to buy too, lol. The only 4K I have is my Epson 5040ub. I have been buying 4K Blu-ray movies seeing it is 4K, standard Blu-ray, and digital. So I figured I could use the 203 along with my 103d in my rack. My theater is in construction phase but still want it.
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I also got the notification yesterday. I went ahead and ordered one even though I still do not have a 4k TV yet. I figure I can sell my 103d for a decent price and re-coup most of the cost of the 203.
In case you don't know already and if it matters to you... Your 103D can be used to rip SACD's to files that can be played over the network or locally attached storage by your Oppo and other media players that support DSD file types, allowing you to safely store your original SACD's.
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Last night I got a link to purchase at 203. I was not ready to buy as this morning had to move funds around to buy. Now I click the link and link expired. I emailed them to see what happened. But this is what the link goes too.
The same thing happened to me. My link expired in less than 12 hours, which seems unreasonable to me.
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The same thing happened to me. My link expired in less than 12 hours, which seems unreasonable to me.
That sounds about right. I checked my mail last night and this morning link is dead, I think it’s unreasonable too.

Hope I get a response from them.
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That sounds about right. I checked my mail last night and this morning link is dead, I think it’s unreasonable too.

Hope I get a response from them.

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The same thing happened to me. My link expired in less than 12 hours, which seems unreasonable to me.
Got a response. “The link should still be active. So you may want to try copying and pasting the link to your address bar and see if it then works properly.”

It worked and now have one coming my way. Will keep my 103d company in the rack, now I need to order custom rack and faceplate.
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Thinking about a spare remote? Price was $12 > now:

"Please enter the serial number for your UDP-203 or UDP-205 below. Orders placed without a valid serial number may be rejected.
Serial Number: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Price: US$ 18.00
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "

When I picked up my first spare there was no Sr. Number requirement, nice to see they may limit purchases to owners.

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When I picked up my first spare there was no Sr. Number requirement, nice to see they may limit purchases to owners.
I looked last week and I coulda sworn the 203 remote was listed at $12, not that $18 isn't reasonable. Getting old.

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I looked last week and I coulda sworn the 203 remote was listed at $12, not that $18 isn't reasonable. Getting old.
I just ordered an Oppo 203 remote as a backup since I can use it for my 103 (sans Netflix & Vudu keys which I never use) or 203. I spoke to Nathan at Oppo HQ in Menlo Park and he confirmed they did raise the price from $12 to $18 to try and cut down on amazon & ebay sellers trying to load up on them. Seems like the serial number check would stop a lot of that. I checked amazon & ebay and the remotes are outrageously expensive (not unlike the 203).

FYI: Nathan said they are running low on 203 remotes so if you want one, I'd order it now.
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Just ordered a back-up UDP-203 from Value Electronics.
Also, on OPPO's website, I registered for the Potential Availability of the 203.
Back-up's here.
Got the e-mail from OPPO yesterday, but this one was already on it way, so I didn't order from them.
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Hey guys. I'm about to pick up a 203 and there is one item I noticed in the FAQ which is giving me pause:

Cinavia is more strictly enforced, applying to USB hard drives and DLNA, SMB and NFS networking, as well as optical discs as before (it is not detected over the HDMI input last time I checked, nor over HDMI ARC, but that could change)

In my current environment I have 100's of lossless MKV rips of my Blu-rays with about another 1000 rips to go (it's a slow process!). There are no issues playing these through my 103D players, but I want to make sure that if I select these MKV's via the 203 that I won't run into an issue with Cinavia warnings. If it matters, all these MKVs are on my Plex server and are bring fed to my Oppo's via Ethernet.

I don't think the 203 looks for Cinavia now. When I first bought my 203 to put next to my 103D for 4K discs, I noted which titles that dropped audio and displayed the message and named them accordingly. Some of those titles now play to the end without putting up a message. I'm networking SMB from my NAS to the player and these are 1:1 MKV rips of the BDs. You usually have to wait 20 minutes or more for detection, so I have not gone through all of my Sony and Lionsgate titles. The ones that didn't work before but work now are Mockingjay 1 & 2, and Deepwater Horizon. Out of 600+ rips I have maybe 20 Cinavia titles. Not sure what firmware update POSSIBLY excluded Cinavia but my FW is UDP20X-56-0224, which appears to be the latest.

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