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post #91 of 759 Old 07-18-2018, 08:42 PM
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You might find my Blog post on this helpful:

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If you STILL find a difference specific to Dolby Vision playback, check whether there's any additional video processing enabled in your display when it is playing Dolby Vision content. You will likely need to be playing Dolby Vision at the time to view/change these settings in your Display.

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Hello, I recently picked up the UBK 90 after having issues with the Sony 700, I cannot seem to find a way to disable HDMI CEC in the player, or Simple Link.

I am only interested in having ARC for the built in apps on the TV, but yet every time I enable it when I switch sources with my harmony remote the TV tells the Blu Ray and Onkyo 676 to activate as if I wanted to watch Blu Ray.

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Again Just wondering if there is a setting in the Player I am missing?

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P.S. I did try reaching out to LG but have had no response as of yet

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Hello, I recently picked up the UBK 90 after having issues with the Sony 700, I cannot seem to find a way to disable HDMI CEC in the player, or Simple Link.

I am only interested in having ARC for the built in apps on the TV, but yet every time I enable it when I switch sources with my harmony remote the TV tells the Blu Ray and Onkyo 676 to activate as if I wanted to watch Blu Ray.

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Again Just wondering if there is a setting in the Player I am missing?

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Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe you turn off the HDMI CEC settings in the audio menu/section of the TV. Check that menu first.

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Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe you turn off the HDMI CEC settings in the audio menu/section of the TV. Check that menu first.
Thank You for the response but that disables the ability to do ARC as I understand, I have tried this and you must have it enabled to use ARC according to what I have read and tried, even my TV tells me I have to enable simple link to use ARC
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Thank You for the response but that disables the ability to do ARC as I understand, I have tried this and you must have it enabled to use ARC according to what I have read and tried, even my TV tells me I have to enable simple link to use ARC
Oh ok. I'm not in front of my TV or player so I was just going off memory. Hopefully another owner will chime in with the solution.

Maybe these PDF's of the owners manual or users guide can assist you. https://www.lg.com/uk/support/support-product/lg-UBK90

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Oh ok. I'm not in front of my TV or player so I was just going off memory. Hopefully another owner will chime in with the solution.

Maybe these PDF's of the owners manual or users guide can assist you. https://www.lg.com/uk/support/support-product/lg-UBK90
Thank You for the link, I posted here because Ive been trying since last night to get this worked out. My main reason for this is the ability for the built in app to do DV, where my Shield TV does not. I have been into the retail and home theatre end of electronics forever and have never come across this issue, no where in the menu of the LG 90 is there an option to turn HDMI CEC or simple link on or off

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Thank You for the link, I posted here because Ive been trying since last night to get this worked out. My main reason for this is the ability for the built in app to do DV, where my Shield TV does not. I have been into the retail and home theatre end of electronics forever and have never come across this issue, no where in the menu of the LG 90 is there an option to turn HDMI CEC or simple link on or off

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This seems to be the latest, popular, Factory Installed Gotcha: Non-Defeatable HDMI CEC.

Some folks have had to resort to HDMI cheater cables to solve this with other players. HDMI CEC uses a particular wire in the HDMI cable. Make a cable without that wire and HDMI CEC goes *poof*.

I've not been tracking where folks have been getting these. You might try Monoprice.com. Or try searching for CEC adapter here on AVS.
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This seems to be the latest, popular, Factory Installed Gotcha: Non-Defeatable HDMI CEC.

Some folks have had to resort to HDMI cheater cables to solve this with other players. HDMI CEC uses a particular wire in the HDMI cable. Make a cable without that wire and HDMI CEC goes *poof*.

I've not been tracking where folks have been getting these. You might try Monoprice.com. Or try searching for CEC adapter here on AVS.
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Update:

So tell me if this makes any sense...

Removed the HDMI from the Blu Ray, Turned on all Simplink in audio and general on the TV, ran initial setup on the Onkyo again and now the ARC works no issue!

Now I will wait for the inevitable, simplink activating the 90 and me being pissed LOL
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So tell me if this makes any sense...

Removed the HDMI from the Blu Ray, Turned on all Simplink in audio and general on the TV, ran initial setup on the Onkyo again and now the ARC works no issue!

Now I will wait for the inevitable, simplink activating the 90 and me being pissed LOL
I hate that so many companies tied ARC in with their input selection protocol so that you can't use ARC without also turning it on. I want to send audio via ARC, but do not ever want any inputs to change automatically. Roku is really bad about waking up and changing inputs.
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(snip)...Some folks have had to resort to HDMI cheater cables to solve this with other players. HDMI CEC uses a particular wire in the HDMI cable. Make a cable without that wire and HDMI CEC goes *poof*.

I've not been tracking where folks have been getting these. You might try Monoprice.com. Or try searching for CEC adapter here on AVS.
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It appears the OP found a work around. That said... some of the hacks I've read about mention bending back or cutting out pin number 13 in one end of the HDMI cable... others members simply cut the wire associated with pin 13. For those not as adventurous... I found on these on Amazon a while back... this "rather expensive" CEC Less Adapter or this 9" CEC Less cable at close to half the price of the adapter.

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It appears the OP found a work around. That said... some of the hacks I've read about mention bending back or cutting out pin number 13 in one end of the HDMI cable... others members simply cut the wire associated with pin 13. For those not as adventurous... I found on these on Amazon a while back... this "rather expensive" CEC Less Adapter or this 9" CEC Less cable at close to half the price of the adapter.
Well I will definitely be getting one of those because not long after i posted the LG 90 Blu Ray kicked on switched my Onkyo to its input.

So for now I'm just gonna leave the HDMI out of the player, fortunately it's easy to get to when I go to watch a movie.

Suck a shame we can't just buy 1 Streaming box that will just do everything, thought I was done with that search after buying the Shield TV, but nope!....LOL

Thanks for all the help and suggestions, I appreciate it!
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I found that UBK90 does not have Bluetooth connectivity for wireless headphones.
The TV I am going to buy LG Oled supports bluetooth.
Would it be OK to connect wireless headphone through TV instead of connecting to Blue ray player to watch movies from blue ray discs? Would there be any problem of lagging? Has anyone tried?
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So far I'm loving this player. Super fast, nice and quiet. Picture quality is amazing. Haven't had any hiccups with the movies I've watched so far.

Was considering sending it back since I heard the Xbox was getting DV, but I love watching a movie now without the noise of the Xbox.

Very nice simple player, with no frills or any features I will never use.
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Definitely quieter. Mine makes like no noise and even loading is almost silent. Haven’t checked the heat factor but I suspect it’s fine.



Yep, watched a Netflix copy of Jumanji last night on standard Blu-ray and it looked really good. I guess the scaling is decent enough although I still don’t like that it’s forced. My TV supports Dolby vision so I’m limited to choosing 2160p as the players output resolution or Auto. But, like I said, so far it’s been doing a solid job with standard Blu-ray Discs.



There is a network sub section but I haven’t checked what it does. I don’t think the player is very feature laden. Check the manual online and they may have more info. Or, I’ll take a look later tonight when I get home.
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Just ordered this player, excited to see what it can do.

Any settings on the player I should be aware of to set or adjust for LG B7 OLED?
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How does this player compare to the Philips BDP7302 in terms of speed? The Philips can be a bit noisy at the start though it sounds like the LG UBK90 is really quiet?
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OK so from reading this thread...

If you own a Sony 940E TV with the X1 Extreme processor that supports DV, you can buy the X700 BD player and manually switch back and forth for DV. Ugh

Or you could buy the UBK90 which has auto detect for DV, but DOESN'T SHOW DV on a Sony TV. Because Sony is "different"

Or you could buy the Oppo 203. No issues with DV on that for Sony TV's?
Sony DV is low latency DV which is the latest dv which I assume that this LG UBK does not have.

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Just ordered this player, excited to see what it can do.

Any settings on the player I should be aware of to set or adjust for LG B7 OLED?
Cool. Let us know how it works out once you get it fired up. I didn’t mess with any settings and own the E6 OLED. Just realize that since your TV supports Dolby vision that the player will force your video output to be 2160p meaning the player will do the upscaling of Blu-ray 1080p Discs. No way around it. Not a deal killer but I used to let my TV do the scaling and always set the resolution from the player to be whatever the resolution of the disc I was watching.

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How does this player compare to the Philips BDP7302 in terms of speed? The Philips can be a bit noisy at the start though it sounds like the LG UBK90 is really quiet?
Mine is very quiet. Most people report that there’s is pretty quiet too.

Watched Annihilation last night in Dolby vision. Looked great, no hiccups or issues. I’m like 95% keeping this player now and will use the Samsung 8500 as a backup.

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So the "consensus" seems to be that the UBK90 is just as good as the Sony X800/X1000 - as far as picture quality...?

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Sony DV is low latency DV which is the latest dv which I assume that this LG UBK does not have.

So was the Oppo firmware updated to play nice with the Sony's on DV? They were release before the LG.
How would Oppo already have low latency DV?
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So the "consensus" seems to be that the UBK90 is just as good as the Sony X800/X1000 - as far as picture quality...?
I never owned either of those Sony's but I sold my Oppo 203 for this LG and the PQ is the same.

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So was the Oppo firmware updated to play nice with the Sony's on DV? They were release before the LG.
How would Oppo already have low latency DV?
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So was the Oppo firmware updated to play nice with the Sony's on DV? They were release before the LG.
How would Oppo already have low latency DV?
Phony (Sony) in their infinite cheapness saved a few dollars by not having a Dolby Vision coprocessor to decode the Dolby Vision Metadata like other manufactures (LG, Vizio and TCL), they tried to use their main processor which does not have enough horse power to do the job. Since their hardware was not capable of doing the decode Sony cheaped out again by using a Dolby Vision profile that requires the source device to do part of the Dolby Vision processing. Sony seems to be turning into another Bose, selling lower quality products at outrageous prices and relying on clever marketing, instead of improving their products to compete with the other manufacturers.
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So I can use the Oppo to handle all the DV decoding right? How can I ensure my 940E TV doesn't touch it?
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So I can use the Oppo to handle all the DV decoding right? How can I ensure my 940E TV doesn't touch it?
The Sony TV still has to do a lot of the Dolby Vision processing itself, it has to use the low latency Dolby Vision profile because it is not capable of doing all the processing by itself and needs the Oppo to help out in the processing.
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Just got a reply from LG on The HDMI CEC issue, or simple link, this is what I was afraid of, and how ridiculous this is, do the y not understand if you leave it on in the TV for ARC it constantly tells the player to turn on and switch to that input on your receiver?
Or if you turn it off you can't use ARC? They seriously need to rethink this....


Thank you for contacting LG Email Services and for getting back to us.

We appreciate you contacting us regarding your LG UBK90 player. It is a pleasure to assist you again.

In response to this, please be advised that upon checking the manual of the player attached with this message, the option to turn off the SIMPLINK feature is unavailable with the unit. This is turned on when the SIMPLINK setting on the TV is turned on and if the unit is connected with the TV through an HDMI cable with CEC. The unit automatically recognizes the signal coming form the TV for the SIMPLINK feature once it is turned on and this allows the remote control of the said TV to control the basic functions of the player.

To deactivate the SIMPLINK option on the player, the feature has to be turned off from the source device which is the TV.

Thank you for your kind understanding.

Should you have any further inquiries or clarifications, please do let us know and we'll be glad to help out. You may contact us again via Email, Live Chat, or Phone by calling 1-800-243-0000.


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So I did a UHD Harry potter marathon over this weekend and on 4 of the 5 movies I had freezes with this player. And when it was froze, it had to be restarted most of the time. I didn't have an issue watching The Last Jedi, but I did with these. The discs were literally right out of the package in to the player tray, clean, no smudges.


I am not sure if this is a player issue or a disc issue, but it makes me want crash watch all my UHD movies to test to find out if its related to the player. Being that it were multiple Potter movies, it seems hard to believe that it was disc issues.
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So I did a UHD Harry potter marathon over this weekend and on 4 of the 5 movies I had freezes with this player. And when it was froze, it had to be restarted most of the time. I didn't have an issue watching The Last Jedi, but I did with these. The discs were literally right out of the package in to the player tray, clean, no smudges.


I am not sure if this is a player issue or a disc issue, but it makes me want crash watch all my UHD movies to test to find out if its related to the player. Being that it were multiple Potter movies, it seems hard to believe that it was disc issues.
Did you wash the disc that froze? Just because they are new does not mean that they are clean, some discs have a film on them from the manufacturing process, you can't see it but it is there and UHD players are very sensitive to it.
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