Official Panasonic DP-UB820/824 Owner's Thread (No Price Talk) - Page 117 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 5026Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #3481 of 5940 Old 03-17-2019, 03:30 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLYDoggie View Post
I tried the procedure you outlined in your earlier post but it had no impact on my Netflix... It still only plays in 1080P. I also tried the "Restart Netflix" under "Help" in the Netflix app and that also had no impact. I get Netflix UHD in all of my other 4K devices but not on the 820 for some reason.
I wondered whether you found a fix for this?..


Would be grateful if you or any who have cracked the problem might share.


I have an 820 connected to a NAD 758v3 and thence to an LG 55E6 OLED.



I too have only 1080p output oddly from Netflix app on the Panasonic 820 even though my LG 55E6 strangely shows both 1080p and "Dolby Vision" when pressing info to check the resolution. The NAD AVR clearly shows the input to be 1080p. Resorting to the Netflix app on PS4 Pro although that results in the loss of DV as only HDR supported. The Netflix app on the LG not a sensible option as although DV preserved it does not output 5.1 via ARC but only stereo. This apparently a known LG 2016 issue.


First world problems certainly but the lack of DV from the 820 Netflix a pity.
radiata is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #3482 of 5940 Old 03-17-2019, 06:42 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
ddigler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,985
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1095 Post(s)
Liked: 484
Does anybody else’s player generate significant heat even in a standby state?

I had to remove my player to do some work on the rack. The player was inactive for hours. The metal bottom of the player was much warmer than I would anticipate from an inactive Blu-ray player? I would almost say it was hot.

Has anybody else experienced this when in a standby state?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
ddigler is offline  
post #3483 of 5940 Old 03-17-2019, 10:21 AM
Member
 
rylsiem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 27
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Liked: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark Burk View Post
Just to be safe all your cables should be premium certified 4k cables in and out of your receiver. To check on whether the receiver is the problem try going direct from player to projector.

The cable is a certified 4k cable. One of the issues is that the problem is hard to replicate as it appears at a random time during a movie.
rylsiem is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #3484 of 5940 Old 03-17-2019, 10:42 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: San Diego
Posts: 30
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddigler View Post
Does anybody else’s player generate significant heat even in a standby state?

I had to remove my player to do some work on the rack. The player was inactive for hours. The metal bottom of the player was much warmer than I would anticipate from an inactive Blu-ray player? I would almost say it was hot.

Has anybody else experienced this when in a standby state?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I too have been surprised by how warm this player gets while one standby.
ddigler likes this.
Hallwhite is offline  
post #3485 of 5940 Old 03-17-2019, 11:33 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
bobknavs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Danbury, CT, USA
Posts: 4,603
Mentioned: 52 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2331 Post(s)
Liked: 1662
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddigler View Post
Does anybody else’s player generate significant heat even in a standby state?

I had to remove my player to do some work on the rack. The player was inactive for hours. The metal bottom of the player was much warmer than I would anticipate from an inactive Blu-ray player? I would almost say it was hot.

Has anybody else experienced this when in a standby state?


(snip)
I just checked mine, which hasn't been used in more than 12 hours.

The base plate felt slightly warm to the touch.

The 820 is sitting on a shelf (particle board?) in an open AV rack. More than 5" clearance above it.
ddigler likes this.
bobknavs is offline  
post #3486 of 5940 Old 03-17-2019, 01:55 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
ddigler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,985
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1095 Post(s)
Liked: 484
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallwhite View Post
I too have been surprised by how warm this player gets while one standby.
Yes; I’m almost nervous to touch the thing after a nice long movie. Glad that it sounds like I’m not the only one…



Quote:
Originally Posted by bobknavs View Post
I just checked mine, which hasn’t been used in more than 12 hours.



The base plate felt slightly warm to the touch.



The 820 is sitting on a shelf (particle board?) in an open AV rack. More than 5" clearance above it.

I have mine in the exact scenario you describe. For mine though I would describe it as a very warm, not slightly.

I’m certainly not assuming the worst just trying to determine if it’s normal or not as I was surprised. Sounds like others to a varying extent experience the same thing.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
ddigler is offline  
post #3487 of 5940 Old 03-17-2019, 06:32 PM
Advanced Member
 
LCSeminole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Florida Panhandle
Posts: 744
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 166 Post(s)
Liked: 144
After having played all the Avenger's movies back to back to back, the under side of my DP-UB820 is only the slightest bit warm and the sides and top are cool to the touch.
ddigler likes this.

Emotiva RMC-1/XPR-2/XPR-5, AppleTV 4K
LG OLED65C8, Oppo UDP-203, Panasonic DP-UB820
Furman PL-PRO DMC 20A, Monster Power HTS-5000
SVS Dual PB12-Plus x 2
Klipsch KLF-20, KLF-C7, RB-5II x 4
LCSeminole is offline  
post #3488 of 5940 Old 03-17-2019, 06:44 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
ddigler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,985
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1095 Post(s)
Liked: 484
Quote:
Originally Posted by LCSeminole View Post
After having played all the Avenger's movies back to back to back, the under side of my DP-UB820 is only the slightest bit warm and the sides and top are cool to the touch.


Hmmmmm... thanks for touching base Seminole. I’ll have to play some BD and check it after that... it seems to function fine but not certain why so warm...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
ddigler is offline  
post #3489 of 5940 Old 03-17-2019, 09:05 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
docrog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Okatie, SC
Posts: 1,403
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1156 Post(s)
Liked: 406
Considering all of the heat issues that several of you are describing, has anyone ever had a failure of the laser pick-up to be able to read any disc (CD, DVD, BR, UHD)???? If so, how did you eventually get the player operative?
docrog is online now  
post #3490 of 5940 Old 03-18-2019, 10:43 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
ddigler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,985
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1095 Post(s)
Liked: 484
Quote:
Originally Posted by docrog View Post
Considering all of the heat issues that several of you are describing, has anyone ever had a failure of the laser pick-up to be able to read any disc (CD, DVD, BR, UHD)???? If so, how did you eventually get the player operative?
Hey Doc. Unfortunately I cannot help you with this. My player works perfectly (knock on wood) - I was just concerned about how hot it gets during standby...
ddigler is offline  
post #3491 of 5940 Old 03-18-2019, 05:29 PM
Advanced Member
 
fr8flyr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Va.
Posts: 581
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked: 53
I am in the process of upgrading my H/T and I have just replaced my old processor with an Integra DRC-R1.1 and I am upgrading my 7.1 setup to a 7.1.4. My question is that I have an older JVC projector, that is not 4k, if I add this player will it down res to 1080P, so that I can still get the UHD audio formats, Atmos, DTS X and such to work, or will the player not output to a non 4k projector?

Earl
fr8flyr is offline  
post #3492 of 5940 Old 03-18-2019, 05:41 PM
Super Moderator
 
teachsac's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Elk Grove, CA
Posts: 14,402
Mentioned: 81 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1273 Post(s)
Liked: 2091
Backwards compatibility is mandatory. All players can output to a non UHD display. The Panasonic players do it a little better than most.

S~

Please use the report post button to alert staff to problematic posts. Never quote or respond to them yourself.

Panasonic DP-UB820 -> Yamaha CX-A5100 -> Sony XBR-75X940C; Mediabridge 6' and 15' HDMI cables.
teachsac is offline  
post #3493 of 5940 Old 03-18-2019, 06:14 PM
Advanced Member
 
fr8flyr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Va.
Posts: 581
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked: 53
Thanks for the quick response, that means I will be able enjoy the new sound formats without waiting to upgrade my projector.

Earl
fr8flyr is offline  
post #3494 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 05:29 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
JonFo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Big Canoe, GA, USA
Posts: 1,621
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 194 Post(s)
Liked: 241
Quote:
Originally Posted by fr8flyr View Post
Thanks for the quick response, that means I will be able enjoy the new sound formats without waiting to upgrade my projector.
That, and if you look up the various mentions of HDR to SDR/709 tone mapping, you also benefit from the wider dynamic range on HDR discs. Just set up a memory in the JVC with all the right settings (like Gamma 2.4, iris settings, etc.) for use with the UB820 + UHD/HDR content.

So far, I'm enjoying the Faux-K from the UB820 (outputting 1080P) going to my JVC 4810 (input 1080p, e-shift to 4K). The big win is the pseudo-HDR. One has to get used to the overall lower APL (average picture level), but a few minutes into the movie, it's all good.

Jonathan
JonFo is offline  
post #3495 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 06:39 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 67
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 48 Post(s)
Liked: 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by oledmod View Post
has anyone compared a 2018 oled (i am using the lg c8) vis-à-vis using the pana ub820 for playback of video files (4k sdr/hdr or high-quality 1080p) and/or streaming (amazon)?

this would be my main purpose, but so far, differences seem subtle at best, but i just used a few times...

any advice?
oledmod is offline  
post #3496 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 08:47 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Lesmor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1,118
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 765 Post(s)
Liked: 335
Quote:
Originally Posted by oledmod View Post
any advice?
Yes
don't do it
the 820 is a disc spinner not a media player
as a media player it sucks

OPPO did the sensible thing and did not provide apps for people to then complain about
vollans likes this.
Lesmor is offline  
post #3497 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 09:08 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Mississauga, ON, Canada
Posts: 6,936
Mentioned: 129 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4876 Post(s)
Liked: 1840
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lesmor View Post
Yes
don't do it
the 820 is a disc spinner not a media player
as a media player it sucks
Can you please elaborate on this? Others have reported good results, at least with latest firmware, for tone-mapping Netflix and Prime Video HDR contents.
Dominic Chan is online now  
post #3498 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 10:36 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
cdnscg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,708
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 602 Post(s)
Liked: 123
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic Chan View Post
Can you please elaborate on this? Others have reported good results, at least with latest firmware, for tone-mapping Netflix and Prime Video HDR contents.
I guess it may depend on your display, I have to unplug the 820 after playing a discs in order for Netflix rot load, plus the Amazon Prime app starts to stutter after watching 15min of UHD programming.
cdnscg is online now  
post #3499 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 10:46 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Mississauga, ON, Canada
Posts: 6,936
Mentioned: 129 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4876 Post(s)
Liked: 1840
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnscg View Post
I guess it may depend on your display, I have to unplug the 820 after playing a discs in order for Netflix rot load, plus the Amazon Prime app starts to stutter after watching 15min of UHD programming.
I did read about Prime stuttering, but believe it’s only in one of the two output modes (SDR2020 or Optimzed HDR, I forgot which one). Which setting do you use?
Dominic Chan is online now  
post #3500 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 10:58 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Lesmor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1,118
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 765 Post(s)
Liked: 335
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic Chan View Post
Can you please elaborate on this? Others have reported good results, at least with latest firmware, for tone-mapping Netflix and Prime Video HDR contents.
well you asked for any advice so I gave mine
I can't speak for anyone else

My Amazon Firestick 4K is far superior to using the Panasonic App
the Panasonic wont play mkv rips
the 820 or 9000 is no substitute for a proper media player
MOberhardt likes this.
Lesmor is offline  
post #3501 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 10:58 AM
Member
 
monkaquinas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Irving, TX
Posts: 121
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 84 Post(s)
Liked: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic Chan View Post
I did read about Prime stuttering, but believe it’s only in one of the two output modes (SDR2020 or Optimzed HDR, I forgot which one). Which setting do you use?
I think @claw had a great post on his findings of the diff settings and it's affect on streaming a couple of months ago. I know that the Prime app is buggy and the Netflix app is almost problem free, except for not supporting 24p for us non-60hz projector users.

Epson5040UB - DragonFly DFM Tab 92HC High Contrast (.9 gain) 16:9 Screen - Denon AVRS740H - Klipsch Quintet V +
Klipsch KHC-6 In-Ceiling (Atmos 5.2.2) with Polk PSW110 Sub & Monoprice Premium Select 8" Sub (via iFinity Wireless Audio) - Panasonic UB820 - PS3
monkaquinas is offline  
post #3502 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 11:05 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
cdnscg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,708
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 602 Post(s)
Liked: 123
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic Chan View Post
I did read about Prime stuttering, but believe it’s only in one of the two output modes (SDR2020 or Optimzed HDR, I forgot which one). Which setting do you use?
I use SDR2020 with a Sony 4K(non HDR) pj
cdnscg is online now  
post #3503 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 03:31 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 79
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Liked: 4
Hey guys, I really need some help here. I'm a novice in the AV world, and just had my projector (Optoma UHD 60) calibrated which is hooked up to my Panasonic Ub820.

It was a well respected technician, not some guy from Geek Squad, but I'm afraid things were not done correctly.

He claims that the HDR mapping on the Optoma was poor, so we opted to let the panasonic do it. Fine. However, he set the HDR Color Gamut Output to SDR.BT2020, which would seem to me that it would prohibit he Panasonic from decoding or passing any kind of HDR/Tone mapping to the projector.

Indeed, when you try to access the HDR menu with this setting, you are told that HDR content must be being displayed to access the HDR optimizer. Makes sense to me.

When asked about this, here was the response:

Quote:
Fortunately, the Panasonic UHD Blu-ray player you bought is a perfect match for the deficiencies of the Optoma's handling of HDR. It allows you to take the incoming HDR data and remap it to SDR data so that it can display as HDR on an SDR-configured display.
I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all. How can you display an HDR signal when HDR is turned off all the way around, both on the Panasonic and on the Optoma?
matpal is offline  
post #3504 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 03:41 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
MOberhardt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,264
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 908 Post(s)
Liked: 567
Yeah seriously, anyone really interested in a media player should never look at some all in one throw in solution to it, on a TV or a disc player. If you are an serious about quality, get something stable and built for it. And something that support native frame rates, like an appletv, and doesn't for 24p content to 60hz like nearly everything else.

That is one other thing I like about the pio 500 - no other trinkets.
MOberhardt is offline  
post #3505 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 04:44 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
m0j0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,464
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 580 Post(s)
Liked: 555
Quote:
Originally Posted by matpal View Post
Hey guys, I really need some help here. I'm a novice in the AV world, and just had my projector (Optoma UHD 60) calibrated which is hooked up to my Panasonic Ub820.

It was a well respected technician, not some guy from Geek Squad, but I'm afraid things were not done correctly.

He claims that the HDR mapping on the Optoma was poor, so we opted to let the panasonic do it. Fine. However, he set the HDR Color Gamut Output to SDR.BT2020, which would seem to me that it would prohibit he Panasonic from decoding or passing any kind of HDR/Tone mapping to the projector.

Indeed, when you try to access the HDR menu with this setting, you are told that HDR content must be being displayed to access the HDR optimizer. Makes sense to me.

When asked about this, here was the response:



I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all. How can you display an HDR signal when HDR is turned off all the way around, both on the Panasonic and on the Optoma?

I have both the UHD60 and the Panasonic 820 and agree that you should configure it for SDR BT2020. I recommend that you don't let yourself get hung up on the HDR vs SDR thing. Tone mapping is a good thing and you want to take advantage of it on the 820 for the best picture.


Here's the settings I use and it looks great:


"Display Mode: Cinema
Wall Color: Off
Brightness: 0
Contrast: -2
Sharpness: 8
Color: 19
Tint: -2
Gamma: 2.4
Ultra Detail: 3 (unless film grain is present, then I will drop down to 1 or 2)
Dynamic Black: On
Brilliant Color: 2
Color Temp: D65
Color Gamut: Cinema
CMS: Defaults
Color Space: Auto
RGB Gain/Bias Settings:
Red Gain: -4
Green Gain: -1
Blue Gain: 12
Red Bias: 0
Green Bias: -1
Blue Bias: 2



820 Settings:


HDMI settings:
Resolution: Auto
4K60p Output: 4K/60p(4:4:4)
24p Output: Auto


HDMI Advanced settings:

Color Mode: Auto
Deep Color Output: Auto (10bit Priority)
HDR/Color Gamut Output: SDR/BT.2020 (Auto)
SDR/HDR Conv: Off
HLG/PQ Conversion: Auto
HDR TV Type: Basic Luminance


Player Options while playing movie:

Luma: +1
Edge: +4
HDR Optimizer: on
Dynamic Range Conversion Adj: +6

Noise Reduction: Optional - If it's an older movie with a lot of distracting film grain, I might set all three noise filters between a value of 1 to 3, until I'm comfortable with the picture


Setting the Gamma to 2.4, turning down the brilliant color setting to 2 on the UHD60 and then compensating by setting the Dynamic Range Conversion Adj to +6 really helped get the best picture while also eliminating shimmering that I sometimes see on the UHD60 when I set the brilliant color setting above 3. "
m0j0 is online now  
post #3506 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 05:00 PM
Advanced Member
 
fr8flyr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Va.
Posts: 581
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked: 53
Well I got off the fence and went with the Panny 820, so you can add me to the owners list. I picked one up from Bestbuy today and will try and play with it some tomorrow.

Earl
fr8flyr is offline  
post #3507 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 05:13 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 79
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Liked: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by m0j0 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by matpal View Post
Hey guys, I really need some help here. I'm a novice in the AV world, and just had my projector (Optoma UHD 60) calibrated which is hooked up to my Panasonic Ub820.

It was a well respected technician, not some guy from Geek Squad, but I'm afraid things were not done correctly.

He claims that the HDR mapping on the Optoma was poor, so we opted to let the panasonic do it. Fine. However, he set the HDR Color Gamut Output to SDR.BT2020, which would seem to me that it would prohibit he Panasonic from decoding or passing any kind of HDR/Tone mapping to the projector.

Indeed, when you try to access the HDR menu with this setting, you are told that HDR content must be being displayed to access the HDR optimizer. Makes sense to me.

When asked about this, here was the response:



I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all. How can you display an HDR signal when HDR is turned off all the way around, both on the Panasonic and on the Optoma?

I have both the UHD60 and the Panasonic 820 and agree that you should configure it for SDR BT2020. I recommend that you don't let yourself get hung up on the HDR vs SDR thing. Tone mapping is a good thing and you want to take advantage of it on the 820 for the best picture.


Here's the settings I use and it looks great:


"Display Mode: Cinema
Wall Color: Off
Brightness: 0
Contrast: -2
Sharpness: 8
Color: 19
Tint: -2
Gamma: 2.4
Ultra Detail: 3 (unless film grain is present, then I will drop down to 1 or 2)
Dynamic Black: On
Brilliant Color: 2
Color Temp: D65
Color Gamut: Cinema
CMS: Defaults
Color Space: Auto
RGB Gain/Bias Settings:
Red Gain: -4
Green Gain: -1
Blue Gain: 12
Red Bias: 0
Green Bias: -1
Blue Bias: 2



820 Settings:


HDMI settings:
Resolution: Auto
4K60p Output: 4K/60p(4:4:4)
24p Output: Auto


HDMI Advanced settings:

Color Mode: Auto
Deep Color Output: Auto (10bit Priority)
HDR/Color Gamut Output: SDR/BT.2020 (Auto)
SDR/HDR Conv: Off
HLG/PQ Conversion: Auto
HDR TV Type: Basic Luminance


Player Options while playing movie:

Luma: +1
Edge: +4
HDR Optimizer: on
Dynamic Range Conversion Adj: +6

Noise Reduction: Optional - If it's an older movie with a lot of distracting film grain, I might set all three noise filters between a value of 1 to 3, until I'm comfortable with the picture


Setting the Gamma to 2.4, turning down the brilliant color setting to 2 on the UHD60 and then compensating by setting the Dynamic Range Conversion Adj to +6 really helped get the best picture while also eliminating shimmering that I sometimes see on the UHD60 when I set the brilliant color setting above 3. "
Thank you for the very detailed response.


A couple of questions, if you please :

You have the Dynamic Range of the projector set to "off"?

Also, with the color gamut on the panasonic set to SDR, how are tou able to access the HDR optimizer? If I try that, a window pops up and says "this function is valid only during HDR video playback". Then if I set it to HDR2020, I can then access that menu.

Lastly, does this make any sense at all

"Fortunately, the Panasonic UHD Blu-ray player you bought is a perfect match for the deficiencies of the Optoma's handling of HDR. It allows you to take the incoming HDR data and remap it to SDR data so that it can display as HDR on an SDR-configured display"

How does SDR become HDR with all HDR settings turned off?

Last edited by matpal; 03-19-2019 at 05:31 PM.
matpal is offline  
post #3508 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 06:10 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
m0j0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,464
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 580 Post(s)
Liked: 555
Quote:
Originally Posted by matpal View Post
Thank you for the very detailed response.


A couple of questions, if you please :

You have the Dynamic Range of the projector set to "off"?

Also, with the color gamut on the panasonic set to SDR, how are tou able to access the HDR optimizer? If I try that, a window pops up and says "this function is valid only during HDR video playback". Then if I set it to HDR2020, I can then access that menu.

Lastly, does this make any sense at all

"Fortunately, the Panasonic UHD Blu-ray player you bought is a perfect match for the deficiencies of the Optoma's handling of HDR. It allows you to take the incoming HDR data and remap it to SDR data so that it can display as HDR on an SDR-configured display"

How does SDR become HDR with all HDR settings turned off?
My HDR Optimizer setting is set to on, so it is doing tone mapping for SDR BT.2020. True, you can not access the HDR Optimizer menu though, so that is why you would set the Dynamic Range Conversion Adj setting.

SDR becomes HDR with the enabling of bt2020 color space plus the tone mapping with the HDR optimizer enabled, at least that is how I understand it.

As far as HDR deficiencies with the Optoma, that is somewhat debatable. I have great success with watching HDR content on the UHD60 using my Nvidia Shield. However, the SDR setting with bt2020 and HDR Optimizer on for the 820 results in an even better picture.
m0j0 is online now  
post #3509 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 06:12 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: new york Ny
Posts: 219
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 166 Post(s)
Liked: 50
Reposting this from the Q90 thread:

I ordered my 75 inch Samsung Q90 yesterday.

I’m in the process of ordering my Samsung Dolby Atmos speaker and a 4K player.

I’m planning on buying the Panosonic UB9000, but I just read this on TechRadar’s review.

“It’s worth noting that all of these video enhancements are also available on the cheaper Panasonic DP-UB820, so if you’re on a limited budget you don’t need to buy the UB9000 to get the benefit of features like the HDR Optimiser. “

Since the Samsung Q90 comes with an improved upscaling ability, could I go with the cheaper version of the 4K player?
Th601 likes this.
EdFlo is offline  
post #3510 of 5940 Old 03-19-2019, 07:16 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Tom Riddle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Greater Houston Area - Texas
Posts: 1,788
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 781 Post(s)
Liked: 689
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdFlo View Post
Reposting this from the Q90 thread:

I ordered my 75 inch Samsung Q90 yesterday.

I’m in the process of ordering my Samsung Dolby Atmos speaker and a 4K player.

I’m planning on buying the Panosonic UB9000, but I just read this on TechRadar’s review.

“It’s worth noting that all of these video enhancements are also available on the cheaper Panasonic DP-UB820, so if you’re on a limited budget you don’t need to buy the UB9000 to get the benefit of features like the HDR Optimiser. “

Since the Samsung Q90 comes with an improved upscaling ability, could I go with the cheaper version of the 4K player?
The 820 is a great player and I’m sure you wouldn’t be disappointed. The main difference in the 9000 and 820, when it comes to the optimizer, is two lower level luminance settings for us projector owners. Your Q90 would be set at the high luminance, so the optimizer would be the same for you on both players.

Routh Family Theater - My Dedicated Home Theater Build - 7.1.4 Atmos Setup
Seymour AV 100" Electronic Masking Screen - Klipsch RF-7 II's, RC-64 II, RS-62 II's, RS-52 II's, CDT-5650 II-C x 4 - PSA V3600I Sub
Marantz AV7704 with TK421 Modification - Panasonic UBD 820
Emotiva XPA -7 & XPA-5 - Sony XBR-75x940c with Ideal-Lume Panelight (Living Room)
Tom Riddle is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply Blu-ray Players

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off