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Hey guys I got this player the other day and it's really amazing. Loving the picture quality, just a quick question. Is there a way to get this player to not start playing the disk when you power it on? I want to be able to power it up and go to the menu rather than it start playing the disk. Can't seem to find an option in the menus.
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Official Panasonic DP-UB820/824 Owner's Thread (No Price Talk)

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The 350 nit option is used primarily for enhanced colours with the native 4K JVC projectors. For other projectors there's really no advantage in using it over the 500 nit setting. Note that your projector does not actually need to produce 500 nits (or even 350 nits) on your screen, as a "multiplier" of typically 4 or 5 is for projectors in a bat cave.


Thats -4 or -5 on the panasonic correct ? I read that it gives you more dynamic range ? Usually at 0 is 350 nits running SDR2020


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Hi all, I recently upgraded my entire home theater setup and one of the devices I added was Panasonic DP-UB820 as prior I did not have a dedicated disc player (had been using a PS4 Pro for when I wanted to play a disc).

A couple of questions;

1. I am using EARC feature between my C9 LG TV and Denon X4400H amplifier. I am getting HD audio tracks through the link from the Panasonic but periodically I stop getting video from the disc player. Short of the obvious things of swapping cables, etc., is anyone aware of any settings that might need to be changed to get this working properly? I'm just using the primary HDMI A+V port at this time.

2. Is there any way to get the player to select the Atmos track automatically? On many discs it seems to pick DD+ track when Atmos track is available. It's frustrating to have to go in and change the audio track every time I watch a movie.

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I would assume that it upscales streaming media also, but I haven't really checked it.

Longer runs of HDMI (more than 25 feet) can be problematic with 4k HDR, and there's probably no way to know until you try it. How old is your current cable? There are a couple of cables that most folks here recommend for longer runs, and typically they are fiber optic and a little more expensive. I purchased a Monoproce Slim Run cable since I have a 50 foot run and I haven't had any issues.


There is a paper that is often linked to by folks here that discuss the two cables (the Monoprice Slim Run and the Ruipro available on amazon) that passed all the tests for passing 4k HRD sources even over long distances. I seem to recall you can find it in Arrow-Av's signature.
This doesn't sound promising. My cable is about 5-6 years old. I really hope it works for 4k because replacing the cable is going to be tough. Is this one of those things that either works or it doesn't?

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I just found the cable I bought in 2013- it's a "40ft Ultra Slim Series High Performance HDMI® Cable w/ RedMere® Technology" from Monoprice. It claims 4k @60Hz and 18Gbps. I sure hope this is sufficient, but still waiting for my projector mount to be able to test it.
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I just found the cable I bought in 2013- it's a "40ft Ultra Slim Series High Performance HDMI® Cable w/ RedMere® Technology" from Monoprice. It claims 4k @60Hz and 18Gbps. I sure hope this is sufficient, but still waiting for my projector mount to be able to test it.
Go ahead and plug it in to your devices to test it out. No need to wait to actually get it mounted.

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Hey guys I got this player the other day and it's really amazing. Loving the picture quality, just a quick question. Is there a way to get this player to not start playing the disk when you power it on? I want to be able to power it up and go to the menu rather than it start playing the disk. Can't seem to find an option in the menus.
If you don’t leave a disc in the player it will start up with the home screen.

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Hi.

I'm seriously considering this player as an upgrade from my Sony Ubp-X800 4K blu ray player. I do want Dolby Vision and I've read just how popular this 4K player has been received through its many reviews I've read on the internet. The HDR Optimiser and just PQ is outstanding on this player from the reviews I read.

I was wondering how warm this machine becomes when in use? The only ventilation I see is on the left side and a fan at the back. How is the fan for noise while watching a movie? Is it loud or fairly quiet? I will be installing it in my audio cabinet beside my centre speaker and just wanted to know if there is any concern as to heat dissipation with this unit? Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences.

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I just found the cable I bought in 2013- it's a "40ft Ultra Slim Series High Performance HDMI® Cable w/ RedMere® Technology" from Monoprice. It claims 4k @60Hz and 18Gbps. I sure hope this is sufficient, but still waiting for my projector mount to be able to test it.
18 Gbps from 2013? Impressive. (AVRs which passed through signals that required 18 Gbps weren't common until at least 2015.) If it's true, it should be OK.
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After several P.M. dialogues with helpful owners of both the UB820/9000 and Yamaha RX-A3080/CX-A5200 I purchased a Yamaha RX-A3080 with the anticipation that I would get Dolby Atmos from my UB820's Netflix app. I can report that, without any question, the UB820 DOES provide Netflix Atmos via this receiver/Pre-Pro combination. I can't comment on whether or not the RX-A1080/2080 is capable of this outcome, but all previous generations of Yamaha AVRs were incapable of "unpacking" the DD+ codec as Atmos from the UB820/9000. As I have repeatedly stated, this was solely a problem with the Yamaha AVR, not with Panasonic's current UHD player apps.

Hey, docrog. I'm considering buying the Yamaha 3080 and have a quick question for you. On the owners thread forum, I thought someone mentioned they were having handshake problems between the Panasonic UB 820 and the 3080. Have you had any issues?
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Go ahead and plug it in to your devices to test it out. No need to wait to actually get it mounted.
The cable is on the ceiling, but I did get the projector mounted and tested it today. I seem to be having trouble with even the output from my AVR though- the onscreen menu's video is going in and out. It very well could be the cable. Not sure what resolution the AVR menu transmits, but the projector doesn't seem to like the format- the video goes out for seconds at a time before coming back. My next step is to try the UB820 directly into the projector and bypass the AVR altogether, but I won't have audio since my projector doesn't have speakers. But at least I can rule out the HDMI cable that way.
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Hey, docrog. I'm considering buying the Yamaha 3080 and have a quick question for you. On the owners thread forum, I thought someone mentioned they were having handshake problems between the Panasonic UB 820 and the 3080. Have you had any issues?
No handshake issues for me. IMO, the only thing that's less than optimal is that the stream from Amazon Video can be choppy with the UB820's app. It's doubtful that you'd necessarily use the Netflix, Amazon Video or You Tube apps in the UB820 unless your display is a projector. Otherwise ATV4K, Roku and other streaming devices would probably be preferred.
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The cable is on the ceiling, but I did get the projector mounted and tested it today. I seem to be having trouble with even the output from my AVR though- the onscreen menu's video is going in and out. It very well could be the cable. Not sure what resolution the AVR menu transmits, but the projector doesn't seem to like the format- the video goes out for seconds at a time before coming back. My next step is to try the UB820 directly into the projector and bypass the AVR altogether, but I won't have audio since my projector doesn't have speakers. But at least I can rule out the HDMI cable that way.
It certainly sounds like the cable is the problem. Often the AVR menus are the most bandwidth demanding (not with all, but with some), and it seems like the cable can't handle it. Bypassing the AVR is a good idea. I guess the cable was already up there, which is why you couldn't readily test it out. Assuming you have to replace it, definitely test it out before taking the time to run it to the mount.

Occasionally people will find very old cables that will pass the full 18 gbps, but this is typically the exception, rather than the rule.

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I just found the cable I bought in 2013- it's a "40ft Ultra Slim Series High Performance HDMI® Cable w/ RedMere® Technology" from Monoprice. It claims 4k @60Hz and 18Gbps. I sure hope this is sufficient, but still waiting for my projector mount to be able to test it.
Very unlikely it will be. I had one that couldn't do 4K60 without dropouts. And that was at 25 feet.

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2. Is there any way to get the player to select the Atmos track automatically? On many discs it seems to pick DD+ track when Atmos track is available. It's frustrating to have to go in and change the audio track every time I watch a movie.

Thanks.
No. That's a problem with the disc authoring when the default audio track isn't the Atmos one. It takes a second, but you do need to check the audio setup on every disc you plan to play nowadays. It's just like some discs resume after stopping and some start over from the beginning. Not the player's fault; it's the authoring of the disc.
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It certainly sounds like the cable is the problem. Often the AVR menus are the most bandwidth demanding (not with all, but with some), and it seems like the cable can't handle it. Bypassing the AVR is a good idea. I guess the cable was already up there, which is why you couldn't readily test it out. Assuming you have to replace it, definitely test it out before taking the time to run it to the mount.

Occasionally people will find very old cables that will pass the full 18 gbps, but this is typically the exception, rather than the rule.
Wow- thanks for the info. I really thought I was future proofing when I spend $50 on a hi-res HDMI cable 6 years ago. Yes- it was already ran through the attic and not enough slack to pull it from the ceiling to try the projector first. Anyway, the projector is mounted now and I just ordered a fiber-optic hdmi cable from Amazon and will certainly run the cable across the floor to test it before fishing it through the attic. Did not get a chance to try the 820 last night, but sounds like I will certainly still have issues if the existing cable is the problem.
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Wow- thanks for the info. I really thought I was future proofing when I spend $50 on a hi-res HDMI cable 6 years ago. Yes- it was already ran through the attic and not enough slack to pull it from the ceiling to try the projector first. Anyway, the projector is mounted now and I just ordered a fiber-optic hdmi cable from Amazon and will certainly run the cable across the floor to test it before fishing it through the attic. Did not get a chance to try the 820 last night, but sounds like I will certainly still have issues if the existing cable is the problem.
Yeah, the HDMI cable thing has been a mess for the last few years. Even cables explicitly advertised as supporting 18gbps often failed to do this. This started 3+ years ago, and the choices then were quite few and far between, with no products 100% reliable. You don't mention the brand, but fiberoptic has been pretty reliable, especially in the 25'+ lengths. Ruipro seems to get good reports across the board.

When possible, it is advisable to install some type of conduit when running cables, to make future replacements easier. Don't know if this is an option for you, but something to consider. So when we have 8k or 16k, and need 48gbps or more, running new cables wouldn't be as painful.

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Yeah, the HDMI cable thing has been a mess for the last few years. Even cables explicitly advertised as supporting 18gbps often failed to do this. This started 3+ years ago, and the choices then were quite few and far between, with no products 100% reliable. You don't mention the brand, but fiberoptic has been pretty reliable, especially in the 25'+ lengths. Ruipro seems to get good reports across the board.
I did get a Ruipro (50 ft). But now I'm starting to think that even my AVR receiver could be a problem for HDMI switching. If cables have issues, it seems to reason that a switcher my have losses too. In fact, I remember having trouble with my Roku Ultra when trying to switch it through my AVR- I would see video dropouts on my old projector. But with HDMI cable running straight from projector to Roku I did not have this problem. So this suggests an issue with AVR (or maybe a combination of AVR + cable bandwidth) My AVR is a new Yamaha TSR-7850 that's supposed to support 4k UHD.
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I did get a Ruipro (50 ft). But now I'm starting to think that even my AVR receiver could be a problem for HDMI switching. If cables have issues, it seems to reason that a switcher my have losses too. In fact, I remember having trouble with my Roku Ultra when trying to switch it through my AVR- I would see video dropouts on my old projector. But with HDMI cable running straight from projector to Roku I did not have this problem. So this suggests an issue with AVR (or maybe a combination of AVR + cable bandwidth) My AVR is a new Yamaha TSR-7850 that's supposed to support 4k UHD.
Ruipro should work fine.

Had a quick look at your AVR, and as you said, its specs indicate it shouldn't be a problem. You might see if there is an AVS thread for this model, and see if there are any HDMI issues mentioned there. But more likely than not, the new cable should get you going.

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Does the most recent 820 have Dolby Vision or do you have to update the BD player? Also I have a Sony X800 and that needed a change for Dolby Atmos. Do you have to change anything on the 820 to get Dolby Atmos?
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Does the most recent 820 have Dolby Vision or do you have to update the BD player? Also I have a Sony X800 and that needed a change for Dolby Atmos. Do you have to change anything on the 820 to get Dolby Atmos?
Firmware 1.2.1 (21 August 2018) introduced Dolby Vision support. https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com.../ub420_us.html

Current version is 1.55 (28 March 2019). There is no assurance as to what firmware version will be on an 820 purchased today. Updating isn't a big deal, though.
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Firmware 1.2.1 (21 August 2018) introduced Dolby Vision support. https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com.../ub420_us.html

Current version is 1.55 (28 March 2019). There is no assurance as to what firmware version will be on an 820 purchased today. Updating isn't a big deal, though.
Have they been adding any new streaming options? The box says netflix, prime video, youtube tv? Just wondering if Hulu of Sling are available now with newer firmware.
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Have they been adding any new streaming options? The box says netflix, prime video, youtube tv? Just wondering if Hulu of Sling are available now with newer firmware.
Nope. Limited streaming options is a vote against this player, if that's important to you.

Netflix works great, with both HDR and Atmos available, depending on which AVR you use with it. I haven't checked recently, but Amazon Prime didn't work well, with frequent 'stutters' reported about universally.

Many have another device for this (Roku, Shield, etc.) although then you can't take advantage of the UB820's Optimizer and Dynamic Range sliders.

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I just found the cable I bought in 2013- it's a "40ft Ultra Slim Series High Performance HDMI® Cable w/ RedMere® Technology" from Monoprice. It claims 4k @60Hz and 18Gbps. I sure hope this is sufficient, but still waiting for my projector mount to be able to test it.
I have purchased 2 50ft HDMI cables that work excellent (18 Gps -- No Issues)

Monoprice SlimRun AV HDR Fiber Optic 50ft $159.99 (18 gps) --- No issues at all (send UB820, UB900, Oppo 203 down the line)
Monoprice DynamicView ACTIVE 50ft $71.79 (18 gps) --- No issues at all (send UB820, UB900, Oppo 203 down the line)

I have been using both for over 1 year (at least 2 years on the fiber optic) in 50 ft runs.
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Hey Guys. I got my 820 from Value Electronics last Friday and have been messing around with it since Saturday night. It is awesome. I do have one question though. I have an 65" C7 OLED. Which brightness setting in the HDR optimizer is best for this display? I like the look of the default setting "standard" but sometimes it appears a little to dim. Maybe I should go with "natural" instead. I have a totally light controlled room and usually watch with the lights on but dimmed. Just wondering what settings others with this combo are using.

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Hey Guys. I got my 820 from Value Electronics last Friday and have been messing around with it since Saturday night. It is awesome. I do have one question though. I have an 65" C7 OLED. Which brightness setting in the HDR optimizer is best for this display? I like the look of the default setting "standard" but sometimes it appears a little to dim. Maybe I should go with "natural" instead. I have a totally light controlled room and usually watch with the lights on but dimmed. Just wondering what settings others with this combo are using.

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I'm using standard with same TV. Also different transfers will give you a different look as well.
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The Natural is the 3rd Sony release where playing the compatible 7.1 when using the dual HDMI outputs causes periodic, repeatable "freeze". This release, similar to Black Hawk Down, comes with an alternate 5.1 which plays just fine.


Do any of you have a legit contact at Panasonic? Not looking for basic customer service line, but an engineer, executive, or otherwise expert.


Do any of you have a legit contact at Sony home video? Not looking for basic customer service line, but an engineer, executive, or otherwise expert.


Please feel free to message me directly. I'd really appreciate it.
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I'm seriously considering this player as an upgrade from my Sony Ubp-X800 4K blu ray player. I do want Dolby Vision and I've read just how popular this 4K player has been received through its many reviews I've read on the internet. The HDR Optimiser and just PQ is outstanding on this player from the reviews I read.

I was wondering how warm this machine becomes when in use? The only ventilation I see is on the left side and a fan at the back. How is the fan for noise while watching a movie? Is it loud or fairly quiet? I will be installing it in my audio cabinet beside my centre speaker and just wanted to know if there is any concern as to heat dissipation with this unit? Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences.

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I made the same exact change about a month ago and im very happy with it. I had know issues with the sony and appreciate the better build quality but i have no doubt the panasonic is the better player
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I made the same exact change about a month ago and im very happy with it. I had know issues with the sony and appreciate the better build quality but i have no doubt the panasonic is the better player
Same here. Replaced the physically well built Sony with the better performing Panasonic.
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The Natural is the 3rd Sony release where playing the compatible 7.1 when using the dual HDMI outputs causes periodic, repeatable "freeze". This release, similar to Black Hawk Down, comes with an alternate 5.1 which plays just fine.


Do any of you have a legit contact at Panasonic? Not looking for basic customer service line, but an engineer, executive, or otherwise expert.


Do any of you have a legit contact at Sony home video? Not looking for basic customer service line, but an engineer, executive, or otherwise expert.


Please feel free to message me directly. I'd really appreciate it.
I chatted with support and asked them to kick this up to engineering. They were supposed to do so and get back to me but I never heard anything.
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