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Does anyone know if I can use the 820 as a Tidal streamer? Is there a way to access the Tidal app on the 820? Thanks folks...
Any input would be appreciated, thanks folks...

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Any input would be appreciated, thanks folks...
I don't see Tidal as an option for music apps. Just Pandora, Rhapsody, ShoutCast, and TuneIn.
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I don't see Tidal as an option for music apps. Just Pandora, Rhapsody, ShoutCast, and TuneIn.
Thanks, perhaps it’s on the 9000, given the upgraded DAC on that unit...otherwise fingers crossed, it may show up in a firmware update...

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How do you upconvert with the UB820?
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How do you upconvert with the UB820?
Unless to set it not too, it upconverts automatically.
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How do you upconvert with the UB820?
Since the UB820 does a more than adequate job of upscaling legacy DVD & Blu-Ray source material to 4K, the only reason to output at native resolution is if you're planning to play 3D source material. If the UB820 output is fixed at 4K it's probable that only 2D will be recognized as playable, so you'd have to go back to the settings menu and change it to native resolution.

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Which model HD-Fury should @Pip be looking for to help him rid his problem of gamma D switching with HDR?
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Which model HD-Fury should @Pip be looking for to help him rid his problem of gamma D switching with HDR?
The least expensive option that I'm aware of is the HDFury Linker. The Vertex can also do this, along with a number of other features which can be useful, although at higher cost.

I'm using the UB-820 with a Linker, going to my RS400. No Gamma D, and Dynamic Iris works fine. I'm using a Custom Curve, and so have HDR/BT2020 output from the UB-820 for both discs and Netflix. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with it.

I did some casual, not rigorous, observations comparing this with SDR/BT2020, but with limited testing, I didn't see a big difference. I've just stuck with HDR and it's working well for me.

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The least expensive option that I'm aware of is the HDFury Linker. The Vertex can also do this, along with a number of other features which can be useful, although at higher cost.

I'm using the UB-820 with a Linker, going to my RS400. No Gamma D, and Dynamic Iris works fine. I'm using a Custom Curve, and so have HDR/BT2020 output from the UB-820 for both discs and Netflix. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with it.

I did some casual, not rigorous, observations comparing this with SDR/BT2020, but with limited testing, I didn't see a big difference. I've just stuck with HDR and it's working well for me.
Ok good to know.
I've been following this thread for a while and noticed there was a ton of great info and help but, which HDFury he needed was to one piece of information that was left unclear.

Hope it helped/s him figure out his issues.
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I heard the only advantage the Panny 820 would offer over my Sony X800 is if my BenQ LK970 is capable of displaying SDR BT2020. I am going to try to check if the BenQ has this.

docrog: Would the 820 be worth buying even if my BenQ LK970 is not capable of displaying SDR BT2020 if the 820 can upscale DVD and Blu Ray better than my Sony X800?

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I heard the only advantage the Panny 820 would offer over my Sony X800 is if my BenQ LK970 is capable of displaying SDR BT2020. I am going to try to check if the BenQ has this.

docrog: Would the 820 be worth buying even if my BenQ LK970 is not capable of displaying SDR BT2020 if the 820 can upscale DVD and Blu Ray better than my Sony X800?
Unfortunately, I'm not able to comment on whether the UB820 is superior to your Sony (or the BenQ) in terms of upscaling legacy source material to 4K. Sorry!

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I have a basic question, apologize if it has been answered before. I am using the UB820 in conjunction with the new JVC, and utilizing the "double tone-mapping" (Optimizer on, JVC auto tone map), the results are really good. My question is regarding UHD discs that do not report metadata (Marvel movies, for example). In these cases, how does the Panasonic tone map to 500 nits? Or does it not tone map at all? What is the preferred way to adjust - using the Panasonic controls or JVC controls?
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I have a basic question, apologize if it has been answered before. I am using the UB820 in conjunction with the new JVC, and utilizing the "double tone-mapping" (Optimizer on, JVC auto tone map), the results are really good. My question is regarding UHD discs that do not report metadata (Marvel movies, for example). In these cases, how does the Panasonic tone map to 500 nits? Or does it not tone map at all? What is the preferred way to adjust - using the Panasonic controls or JVC controls?
The UB820 assumes 1000 nits when the title does nor report metadata.
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Turn off Front Panel Display during Netflix viewing?

Since I use my UB-820 with a Projector, I want the room as dark as possible. I have used the "High Clarity Sound" settings to turn off this display when watching Discs, and it works just fine.

I have found, however, that this doesn't work when playing Netflix, such that a bright "NET" is shown on the Front Panel Display.

Has anybody figured out a way to have this turned off as well?

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I heard the only advantage the Panny 820 would offer over my Sony X800 is if my BenQ LK970 is capable of displaying SDR BT2020. I am going to try to check if the BenQ has this.

docrog: Would the 820 be worth buying even if my BenQ LK970 is not capable of displaying SDR BT2020 if the 820 can upscale DVD and Blu Ray better than my Sony X800?
In this universe ANYTHING can upscale better than the Sony X-800 which by default applies some kind of Digital Noise Reduction (maybe to mask aliasing issues when upscaling) that makes the picture lack in detail.
I have both a Sony X-800 and a Panasonic DP-UB420 that shares the same video processing of the 820 and its 4K upscaling trounces the one done by the Sony X-800.
When I only had the Sony X-800 I had its video output set to "Original Resolution" so my Samsung TV did the upscaling when playing BD's and DVD's, now with the Panasonic 420 I let it upscale both BD's and DVD's as it does a great job.
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Since I use my UB-820 with a Projector, I want the room as dark as possible. I have used the "High Clarity Sound" settings to turn off this display when watching Discs, and it works just fine.

I have found, however, that this doesn't work when playing Netflix, such that a bright "NET" is shown on the Front Panel Display.

Has anybody figured out a way to have this turned off as well?
In the past when I had a device with a too bright display that couldn't be turned off I used to put my box of Camel in front of the display, it worked great. I don't do that now as quit smoking 9 years ago. I miss those days .
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In the past when I had a device with a too bright display that couldn't be turned off I used to put my box of Camel in front of the display, it worked great. I don't do that now as quit smoking 9 years ago. I miss those days .
Yeah, it may come down to a low-tech approach. I've used strips of black velvet or even electrical tape to block lights that couldn't otherwise be turned off. It seems like the Front Panel Display *should* be able to be turned off for Netflix, as it is with Disc, but it may have been overlooked by Panasonic.

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Is it better to stream netflix thru the UB820 or thru my Xfinity cable box? Will the picture be better thru the UB820?
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Is it better to stream netflix thru the UB820 or thru my Xfinity cable box? Will the picture be better thru the UB820?
I can't speak to the Xfinity box, but I am quite pleased with Netflix, whether SDR or HDR, with my UB820, to my JVC RS400 Projector. Very solid performance, with virtually no stuttering ever. And with HDR, you do get the benefit of Tone-Mapping, Optimizer, etc. (though I think your BenQ doesn't do HDR, so this would be less important for you).

One little glitch that I and others have noted, though: it seems the Audio-Video Delay/Sync is different for Disc output vs Netflix output, with the UB820. I have to set my AVR Delay differently depending on which I'm watching. With my Harmony Hub and Remote, I recently programmed in a sequence of commands to change the AVR when watching Netflix, and changing it back when I'm done, which works well as a work-around. But I'd prefer it wasn't there to begin with.

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Cool my Xfinity box that has Netflix does a great job with no stuttering at all. Just wondering if the video might be better from a BD player?
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In this universe ANYTHING can upscale better than the Sony X-800 which by default applies some kind of Digital Noise Reduction (maybe to mask aliasing issues when upscaling) that makes the picture lack in detail.
I have both a Sony X-800 and a Panasonic DP-UB420 that shares the same video processing of the 820 and its 4K upscaling trounces the one done by the Sony X-800.
When I only had the Sony X-800 I had its video output set to "Original Resolution" so my Samsung TV did the upscaling when playing BD's and DVD's, now with the Panasonic 420 I let it upscale both BD's and DVD's as it does a great job.
According to my traveling calibrator, whom I consider the best in the business, pick Panasonic for best tools and PQ and Sony for best sound. Sony also tracks scratched discs slightly better. He owns both the Panny 820 and Sony X800 for these reasons in his home theater room.

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In this universe ANYTHING can upscale better than the Sony X-800 which by default applies some kind of Digital Noise Reduction (maybe to mask aliasing issues when upscaling) that makes the picture lack in detail.
I have both a Sony X-800 and a Panasonic DP-UB420 that shares the same video processing of the 820 and its 4K upscaling trounces the one done by the Sony X-800.
When I only had the Sony X-800 I had its video output set to "Original Resolution" so my Samsung TV did the upscaling when playing BD's and DVD's, now with the Panasonic 420 I let it upscale both BD's and DVD's as it does a great job.
According to my traveling calibrator, whom I consider the best in the business, pick Panasonic for best tools and PQ and Sony for best sound. Sony also tracks scratched discs slightly better. He owns both the Panny 820 and Sony X800 for these reasons in his home theater room.
Curious if this is also the case with the X800M2. As the X800 was released two years prior and without DV support, it may have less robust processing capabilities. Possible that BD upscaling has improved and closed the gap some?
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Hi. I'm experiencing some sync issues with my ene unit which I bought a few days ago.

I believe this only happened in the last day or so but maybe it was there from the beginning and I just didn't notice. Audio is slightly out of sync with video on every 4K Blu-ray I try, Netflix too. I have to set delay at 90ms to fix it but I'd prefer not to do this and just get some kind of fix.

Had anyone else experienced this?
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Hi guys

We are about to pull the trigger on the Panny 820, but read on different places the Panny has trouble reading BD-R, there´s a moment when audio just disappears, you need to pause the video, play again and audio comes back, however it will happen again some time later.

Any experiences about this?
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According to my traveling calibrator, whom I consider the best in the business, pick Panasonic for best tools and PQ and Sony for best sound. Sony also tracks scratched discs slightly better. He owns both the Panny 820 and Sony X800 for these reasons in his home theater room.
You're 100% right IMO. I got the Sicario 2 steelbook from Zavvi when it was released and the UHD BD came with a small side scratch. At that time I only had the Sony X-800 and the disc played with no issues,but when I got the Panasonic 420 two months ago at a certain point of the movie it froze, picture broke into macroblocking, sound had digital glitches and at one point it skipped around 3 minutes forward. I tried the disc again on the Sony X-800 and it played fine.
I eventually got a new disc two or three weeks ago from Zavvi when they had a 2 UHD BD's for 32 Euros includding shipping, I like both the movie and the picture quality of the Panasonic and I didn't have Gladiator so it was a good chance to get it on UHD BD and a replacement disc for my Sicario 2 Steelbook.
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I'm trying to get my DP-UB820 working with my Denon AVR-4310CI and my Samsung KS8000 TV. I have the video going to the TV no problem, but when I try to hear the audio through the HDMI out to the AVR I get nothing.

I have checked and I have Auto for the HDMI video and Audio Only for the HDMI audio. I confirmed the port is fine for the AVR as I swapped another device into that port and get audio as part of my troubleshooting.

I understood the point of the additional HDMI port was for this exact situation.

Any ideas what is going on?

I have the latest firmware and an odd annoyance is that the sub menus exit you without doing anything and you can't change things easily or you think you did it and can't. I think this is a bug with this firmware. (I think it is 1.55 IIRC, so perhaps I can downgrade?)

Maybe I have to call Panasonic Canada on Monday.

I only noticed this when I unplugged the optical cable from the TV going to the AVR on my "TV" input set to optical 1 on the AVR and then no audio on HDMI1.

Not really getting much help from this document.
http://eng-ca.faq.panasonic.com/app/...ail/a_id/43497
http://eng-ca.faq.panasonic.com/app/...7937/related/1


Help would be gladly appreciated. Bought box around mid-May so my 30 days be close but perhaps they will do something considering I've only played with the player briefly to check out video but this is weird.
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I picked up a UB820 yesterday to replace my UB900 so as to be able to use the Dolby Vision instead of HDR10 for movies. I have encountered a couple of issues with one being DV does no pass through my receiver (Yamaha RX-A3070 latest firmware that supports DV pass through and only six weeks old bought new and I have posted in the Yamaha thread as to this issue) and the other being I can hook up the UB820 directly to my TV and get DV to work but the Audio out sends no sound to my receiver. I have the Audio out set to Audio out only and the Video is set to Auto. Latest firmware on the UB820 as well. I have reset both the factory defaults and set them up again but no go as to both of these issues. Sound wise I run Straight on my receiver with Bitstream out on the UB820 and it works great sound wise when running a single cable but it only comes across as HDR10 for playback. Well kinda stumped here and I am most of the time pretty good with getting things to work as they are supposed to. Using Monoprice certified HDMI cables, guess I could go out and spend $200 on some AudioQuest HDMI cables but not sure that will make a difference as hooked up directly to TV I get DV to work as well as the good sound when running into the receiver running only one cable. I have also read pages and pages as well as doing many a search on both threads as to a fix but was not able to really find one as I find the search feature on this site leaves much to be desired.
Did you get a resolution to this? I seem to experience the same thing

DP-UB820 -----------> Denon AVR-4310 (can play Dolby TruHD/Master DTSHD) (audio)
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I confirmed that HDMI port on my Denon AVR4310 is working properly by hooking up my Oppo BDP103 to the port that I was hooking up the audio for the Panasonic DP-UB820

I reset factory defaults as I had played with them before. I had my TV inputting audio via optical into the receiver and that's how I was getting sound (5.1 Dolby I guess) before but I can't get the sound from the player directly to the receiver. What's going on here? Something so simple
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Hi. I'm experiencing some sync issues with my ene unit which I bought a few days ago.

I believe this only happened in the last day or so but maybe it was there from the beginning and I just didn't notice. Audio is slightly out of sync with video on every 4K Blu-ray I try, Netflix too. I have to set delay at 90ms to fix it but I'd prefer not to do this and just get some kind of fix.

Had anyone else experienced this?
Just got mine this weekend, and I have the same problem. Audio is just a hair off.
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