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post #4921 of 5479 Old 06-29-2019, 11:07 PM
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For lip sync issue, did you try to disable the lip sync feature on your Denon?


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I have the pioneer lx503

Are Dandlj and I the only ones having this av sync issue when using Netflix on the 820? If so, must be something in my (our) setup that is causing this. Makes even more sense that it is something in my system, given a second 820 I tried exhibited the same issue.

Going to try hooking it up to a regular tv and see if the issue is still there.

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I have no problem with lip sync on my Denon X8500H (but I do disable Lips Sync On) when I watched Netflix movies using the Panny UB420.
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I have no problem with lip sync on my Denon X8500H (but I do disable Lips Sync On) when I watched Netflix movies using the Panny UB420.

When I disabled CMD/Low latency on my JVC pj, I had to turn off Lip Syncing on my Marantz AV8805 to get correct sync with the 820.
Today I briefly turned CMD on/Low latency off, and noticed I had to turn Lip Syncing back on the Marantz to be in sync with the 820. Toggling this on the AVP gives a blank screen for a long time, as if the whole HDMI chain needs to handshake again.
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Actually, there are two settings that affect Netflix HDR playback.

1. 4K60 Output

This must be set to 4K60 4:4:4.

Think of this setting as the maximum color space that your TV or Projector supports at 4K60.

Netflix, for some reason, will not output 4K60 4:2:0 10-bit HDR. It will output 4:2:0 SDR instead. I have no idea why the Netflix App has this restriction as Netflix will output 4K60 4:2:0 HDR from some other players.


2. Advanced... Color Mode

This can be set to either Auto or 4:2:2. It cannot be set to 4:4:4 if you want HDR from Netflix.

Think of this setting as the color space that you want output to your TV for both 4K24 and 4K60.

If you set it to 4:4:4, then Netflix will output 4K60 4:4:4 8-bit SDR since 10-bit is not allowed for 4K60 4:4:4.

Leave this setting at Auto unless you want 4:2:2 for 4K24 output instead of 4:4:4.
How "Deep Color Output" must be set? Priority 10 or 12 bit? Is that impacting Netflix?

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I have the pioneer lx503

Are Dandlj and I the only ones having this av sync issue when using Netflix on the 820? If so, must be something in my (our) setup that is causing this. Makes even more sense that it is something in my system, given a second 820 I tried exhibited the same issue.

Going to try hooking it up to a regular tv and see if the issue is still there.
I have the Marantz SR7010, and the JVC RS400. I've found that I need a different Audio-Video delay setting when watching Netflix vs watching Discs.

I've set routines in my Harmony Hub to automatically make these adjustments, but I would hope that Panasonic would fix this. I'm not holding my breath, though....

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I have the Marantz SR7010, and the JVC RS400. I've found that I need a different Audio-Video delay setting when watching Netflix vs watching Discs.

I've set routines in my Harmony Hub to automatically make these adjustments, but I would hope that Panasonic would fix this. I'm not holding my breath, though....
I'm not even sure I want to know how long that took to configure or how often it fails to work correctly...
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I'm not even sure I want to know how long that took to configure or how often it fails to work correctly...
I hear you!

It actually wasn't too bad. I need the full 200 ms for disc, while ironically, it needs to be at 0 for streaming. So it's only a 1-button press to get from one to the other. It's basically a series of commands, with a few 1 second delays to give it time to respond. Once I put the delays in, it seems to be pretty reliable.

But yeah, I really shouldn't have to do this...

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I hear you!

It actually wasn't too bad. I need the full 200 ms for disc, while ironically, it needs to be at 0 for streaming. So it's only a 1-button press to get from one to the other. It's basically a series of commands, with a few 1 second delays to give it time to respond. Once I put the delays in, it seems to be pretty reliable.

But yeah, I really shouldn't have to do this...
I guess if you have an Anthem AVR you can just setup another input, and on that input put a delay, then just select that. I've done similar for my miniDSP BEQ use, so I have input "HDMI1" on port 1 for no BEQ miniDSP, then "HDMI1-2" on port 1 with a 4ft extra distance for the subwoofer delay when I'm running thru the miniDSP.

I'm not sure if the input setups are the same on other AVRs.
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I guess if you have an Anthem AVR you can just setup another input, and on that input put a delay, then just select that. I've done similar for my miniDSP BEQ use, so I have input "HDMI1" on port 1 for no BEQ miniDSP, then "HDMI1-2" on port 1 with a 4ft extra distance for the subwoofer delay when I'm running thru the miniDSP.

I'm not sure if the input setups are the same on other AVRs.
That is a very handy feature to have. As far as I am aware, this is not an option on the Marantz SR7010. I don't know about other models.

I am interested in ARC as well, so an Anthem may be in my future sometime down the road...
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That is a very handy feature to have. As far as I am aware, this is not an option on the Marantz SR7010. I don't know about other models.

I am interested in ARC as well, so an Anthem may be in my future sometime down the road...
Yes, I'm pretty happy with the Anthem. And the new ARC Genesis seems to work better than the old one. Previously I'd have to up levels on rears and overheads, but didn't now.
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Will try changing the cmd/low latency options on the NX7

The problem a few of us are having is an AV sync issue where the video displays before the audio. No way to fix this as adding audio delay only makes it worse. No way to ‘delay’ the video to get it in sync.
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I was about to buy this player but then watched hdtvtest and problem with DV is concerning. Is there an alternative to this player?
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I was about to buy this player but then watched hdtvtest and problem with DV is concerning. Is there an alternative to this player?
Which problem is that? I think DV looks fantastic with this player combined with my Sony A9F. I have to see HDTV test to see what you are referring too?
As far as alternatives both Sony Models are fine X700 and X800M2. But you have to manually Switch DV on and off depending on the disc.

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Thinking about pulling the trigger on this today...was going over a few other models, but passed. So it's either the 820 or 9000 (too much $)

Are there any issues if it's (Panasonic 820) plugged directly into (HDMI) the AVR instead of my Z9D?

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Which problem is that? I think DV looks fantastic with this player combined with my Sony A9F. I have to see HDTV test to see what you are referring too?
As far as alternatives both Sony Models are fine X700 and X800M2. But you have to manually Switch DV on and off depending on the disc.
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Thinking about pulling the trigger on this today...was going over a few other models, but passed. So it's either the 820 or 9000 (too much $). Are there any issues if it's (Panasonic 820) plugged directly into (HDMI) the AVR instead of my Z9D?
Have no issues going directly into my Onkyo RZ830 (9.2) and before that the Denon X2300W (7.2). Everything plays great. 4K, Blu-ray 2D and 3D. Upscaling is noticeably better than previous player. Atmos plays fine and well as DTS:X discs.
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Thinking about pulling the trigger on this today...was going over a few other models, but passed. So it's either the 820 or 9000 (too much $)

Are there any issues if it's (Panasonic 820) plugged directly into (HDMI) the AVR instead of my Z9D?
I run my UB820 plugged into my RX-A3070 and it works as it's supposed to. I get DV when the disc has it and all of the different surround sound modes that exist today. My room is setup 5.2.4.
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I run my UB820 plugged into my RX-A3070 and it works as it's supposed to. I get DV when the disc has it and all of the different surround sound modes that exist today. My room is setup 5.2.4.
Could you verify whether or not you are able to obtain Dolby Atmos from appropriate Netflix titles when using the UB820's Netflix app? I am able to achieve this via my RX-A3080. Thanks!

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Been years since I posted on this site, but thought I'd chime in regarding this player.

I've owned a Sony 75-inch 940E and LG UP970 4K blu-ray player for the last couple of years. Last week, I decided to upgrade my blu-ray player to the Sony X700 so that I could take advantage of the Dolby Vision low-latency profile that's compatible with my TV. I own a few DV discs such as Justice League, the Matrix trilogy, and the Jack Ryan collection. My HDMI cables are Premium Certified 18GPS from Monoprice.

Upon setting up the X700 player to output DV, I noticed the picture appeared excessively dark. HDR highlights on both DV-encoded discs and regular 4K discs were totally clipped, and everything appeared oppressively dim. Boosting my TV settings to brighten up the picture did little to rectify the issue. By comparison, disabling the DV setting on the player and outputting a standard HDR10 signal resulted in a bright, vibrant picture. I also viewed DV content via the TV's internal Amazon app to watch some of Amazon's original Jack Ryan series since it's encoded in DV. The picture quality was outstanding--no darkened picture.

I decided to return to the Sony X700 and replace it with the Panasonic UB820.

Night and day difference, folks.

The picture quality on the UB820 is everything it's been cracked up to be. DV discs appear bright and vibrant and offer a "pop" that's almost hypnotic. Regular 4K discs also appear incredible. For that matter, so do standard blu-ray discs. This player trounces both the Sony and LG players and has made me fall in love again with watching 4K movies.

I'm not sure what's going on with Sony. You'd think their 4K blu-ray player would work perfectly with one of their own TVs. However, it's Panasonic that's delivered the goods. Unfortunate that I had to spend considerably more for this player over the Sony, but thankfully BB just dropped the price by $50 over the weekend during a sale. Highly recommended to anyone sitting on the fence.

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Which problem is that? I think DV looks fantastic with this player combined with my Sony A9F. I have to see HDTV test to see what you are referring too?
As far as alternatives both Sony Models are fine X700 and X800M2. But you have to manually Switch DV on and off depending on the disc.
I've had a Sony X-800 for two years and around 3 months ago I got an inexpensive Panasonic DP-UB420 with the HCX Processor. I think it's not only for the use of HDR Optimizer, the way Panasonic players do Chroma Upsampling is superior to Sony's which look flat and boring compared to Panasonic's picture.
I still use the Sony X-800 for SACD and all audio playing.
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Hi! I’m thinking of buying this 0”-623. I have a lg 65c8 and a Xbox one x to game and I’ve been using it to watch 4K blu rays as well. I can’t help but wonder what I’m missing out on with the ub820z. I also have a 5.1.2 setup with a yamaha Rx-a780. Just out of curiosity how I plug in the blu Ray player to the receiver. Do I need to use both the audio and video hdmi inputs or can I just use the video and the receiver will do the work for the audio. Thanks for the help!
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Hi! I’m thinking of buying this 0”-623. I have a lg 65c8 and a Xbox one x to game and I’ve been using it to watch 4K blu rays as well. I can’t help but wonder what I’m missing out on with the ub820z. I also have a 5.1.2 setup with a yamaha Rx-a780. Just out of curiosity how I plug in the blu Ray player to the receiver. Do I need to use both the audio and video hdmi inputs or can I just use the video and the receiver will do the work for the audio. Thanks for the help!

Buy a ub-820. I have an LG C8 as well with it and 5.2.4 set up. Its legit.


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Will try changing the cmd/low latency options on the NX7

The problem a few of us are having is an AV sync issue where the video displays before the audio. No way to fix this as adding audio delay only makes it worse. No way to ‘delay’ the video to get it in sync.
Same here. I use it with the Yamaha 3080 and Sony 285ES. I gave up and just use Apple TV for Netflix. Pretty good actually so you may want to give it a try.
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My 820 arrived yesterday from VE (thank you Robert), to be paired with a LG E6 and an Emotiva UMC200 pre-pro. Set up went smoothly and I popped in Fantastic Beasts UHD to confirm tone mapping at 1000 nits peak. I haven't had time for critical viewing yet, but so far all is well.

As an aside, I understand the disdain this thread has for the standard remote, which resembles those of the prior Panny players I've had. But it is wonderful compared to the abomination that is the K8500 remote. Like most of life, everything is relative.

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I just ordered yesterday. Super excited. Is your 5.1.4 system a soundbar or do you have a receiver. I am wondering if I have to connect towo hdmi wires from the panny ub820 to my receiver or if I can go with just one to get the best sound. Thanks!

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I just ordered yesterday. Super excited. Is your 5.1.4 system a soundbar or do you have a receiver. I am wondering if I have to connect towo hdmi wires from the panny ub820 to my receiver or if I can go with just one to get the best sound. Thanks!

Its not a soundbar. I have 9 speaker Triad setup. There is an instruction manual that comes with it so I would just follow that depending on what your setup is. Have fun. Started my first 4k bluray collection since buying the 820 and own 20 titles or so in a month. Lol


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Well then you should definitely get more on prime day!
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So sorry to be lazy but have a question hoping someone may be able to answer without me reading through 4947 posts.

Have a Sony VW295ES projector. If I watch 4K HDR Netflix content using the 820 will it tonemap and correct the HDR? Is this feature only for discs or does it apply this magic to streaming content as well? Wasn't sure if meta data was included in streaming content or it offered other enhancements for streaming content?

For tone mapping feature is there any reason to go with the newer 9000 or does 820 do the same?

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I’m also having the Netflix lip sync issue going into my Denon S940.

This issue is NEW!

I’ve been gettin atmos and flawless lip sync since I bought this player in January.

Watched “The Dirt” this past weekend and the lip sync was way off (first time ever). Watched three kingdoms (or whatever the Aflek movie was) before without issue and Jessica Jones after without issue. I’m puzzled.


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Its not a soundbar. I have 9 speaker Triad setup. There is an instruction manual that comes with it so I would just follow that depending on what your setup is. Have fun. Started my first 4k bluray collection since buying the 820 and own 20 titles or so in a month. Lol


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Hi, I googled the manual but I'm still not certain whether its best for me to use both the video/audio port and the second audio port. The manual says that when using a a receiver to plug the audio video one into the receiver and the video hdmi to the tv. I want to avoid hooking it up to the tv since it is mounted and I don't want any wires to show. Can I ask how you setup your hdmi cable(s) from the panny ub820?

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