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Is there a better blu ray player in sound or picture?
From DP-UB820?

Dolby Vision is not interesting

Seeing many movies through USB
H265, Dolby Atmos, DTX -X
HDR 10+ HDR 10 PLUS

Is there a more recommended device?
Yes,

Click on the link below,
https://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/...-part-1-video/

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If reference-quality video is your goal, only a premium optical disc player can deliver it. The Panasonic DP-UB9000 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player is a high-end source component built in the tradition of fine electronics. A stout chassis is filled with only the very best parts that work together to produce the best possible quality from optical disc formats. With support for HDR10, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, and HLG; along with dual HDMI outputs, 7.1 analog audio, and balanced stereo connections; it even earns a THX certification. Those seeking the ultimate in video and sound quality may very well have found their ideal source component.


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you did not bring any explanation to my question
You brought a quote from an advertisement that lists all the things that are mentioned in 820's



You didn't make any difference between 820 and 9000!
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you did not bring any explanation to my question
You brought a quote from an advertisement that lists all the things that are mentioned in 820's



You didn't make any difference between 820 and 9000!
That link I provided tells all about the UB9000.

Below are some videos of the comparisons that have already been posted but I don't mind doing them again.









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Is there a better blu ray player in sound or picture?
From DP-UB820?

Dolby Vision is not interesting

Seeing many movies through USB
H265, Dolby Atmos, DTX -X
HDR 10+ HDR 10 PLUS

Is there a more recommended device?
I have test driven the ub9000 and own the ub820. I saw no image performance benefit of the ub9000 over the ub820 with my JVC DLA-X990. Both units provided the same range of flexibility in HDR2020 and SDR2020. This included comparisons of the 350 and 500 nit projector options.

In my set up, while there are reasons to prefer the ub9000 over the ub820, image reproduction is not among them.

While I have not tried the newest offering, the ub420, I suspect an image performance comparison may be similar.

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Thanks for the advice, but that was the very first thing i did when i booted up the machine. It's already on the current firmware.

I have since tested out other blu ray discs -- anything that is decoded in DTS has the same issue.

If the disc is dolby atmos or truehd, it's fine.

Any discs with dts-hd ma or dts x, all have the same dropouts every minute or so.

Again, the same discs on my old LG 4k player or my PS4 play just fine with my soundbar.

I am truly frustrated.
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USB video playback

Hi everyone. Is there some magic trick required to get videos to play back from a USB connected hard drive? I have tried both the front and back USB and this player doesn't play nice. It recognizes the usb when plugged in, but if I try to view the video files on it I am told there are none...

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Hi everyone. Is there some magic trick required to get videos to play back from a USB connected hard drive? I have tried both the front and back USB and this player doesn't play nice. It recognizes the usb when plugged in, but if I try to view the video files on it I am told there are none...

See page 7 of the manual. USB formatted correctly?

USB 2.0 for the front port, 3.0 for the back panel port.

Can't have both ports in use simultaneously.

Special Note: "...unit does not guarantee connection with all USB devices."
Alternatively, try Panasonic Customer support.

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I have test driven the ub9000 and own the ub820. I saw no image performance benefit of the ub9000 over the ub820 with my JVC DLA-X990. Both units provided the same range of flexibility in HDR2020 and SDR2020. This included comparisons of the 350 and 500 nit projector options.

In my set up, while there are reasons to prefer the ub9000 over the ub820, image reproduction is not among them.

While I have not tried the newest offering, the ub420, I suspect an image performance comparison may be similar.

It is my understanding that the UB820 has the same video performance as the UB9000.

Where the UB9000 differs from the UB820 is in the audio and its better analog outputs.

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Question Netflix 4K streaming issue

I'm trying to figure out why my UB820 is no longer able to stream 4K content from Netflix. I have it connected through a certified HDMI cable to my Denon AVR X-8500H and out to my Samsung Q90R TV. I'm fairly positive I was able to stream 4K Netflix until recently, so I think that I must have changed a setting somewhere. I can stream Netflix 4K from the Netflix app on the TV and also through my Dish Hopper 3 but for some reason I can only get 1080 HD output from the 820. When I switch to the Amazon Prime app on the 820, I can get 4K streaming to the TV no problem. My Netflix account says that I'm subscribed to the Premium Ultra HD plan to stream on 4 devices, so I can't figure out why I can't get it to stream 4k programs now from the 820. Any suggestions before I call Netflix and run it by them?

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I'm trying to figure out why my UB820 is no longer able to stream 4K content from Netflix. I have it connected through a certified HDMI cable to my Denon AVR X-8500H and out to my Samsung Q90R TV. I'm fairly positive I was able to stream 4K Netflix until recently, so I think that I must have changed a setting somewhere. I can stream Netflix 4K from the Netflix app on the TV and also through my Dish Hopper 3 but for some reason I can only get 1080 HD output from the 820. When I switch to the Amazon Prime app on the 820, I can get 4K streaming to the TV no problem. My Netflix account says that I'm subscribed to the Premium Ultra HD plan to stream on 4 devices, so I can't figure out why I can't get it to stream 4k programs now from the 820. Any suggestions before I call Netflix and run it by them?
Check this and see if it applies in your case:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-b...l#post58457092
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I'm trying to figure out why my UB820 is no longer able to stream 4K content from Netflix. I have it connected through a certified HDMI cable to my Denon AVR X-8500H and out to my Samsung Q90R TV. I'm fairly positive I was able to stream 4K Netflix until recently, so I think that I must have changed a setting somewhere. I can stream Netflix 4K from the Netflix app on the TV and also through my Dish Hopper 3 but for some reason I can only get 1080 HD output from the 820. When I switch to the Amazon Prime app on the 820, I can get 4K streaming to the TV no problem. My Netflix account says that I'm subscribed to the Premium Ultra HD plan to stream on 4 devices, so I can't figure out why I can't get it to stream 4k programs now from the 820. Any suggestions before I call Netflix and run it by them?
Have tried using the reload Netflix option within the app?

It is located in the settings sub menu.

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I do have the 4K format signal set to enhanced, so I don't think that is the problem.

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Have tried using the reload Netflix option within the app?

It is located in the settings sub menu.
I'm having a problem finding that sub menu. I went into the Blu-ray player set up area and can't find a sub menu. Can you elaborate as to how to find it?

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Have tried using the reload Netflix option within the app?

It is located in the settings sub menu.
Okay, I think that I found it within the Netflix app and reloaded Netflix but it still doesn't allow me to stream in 4k?

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I'm having a problem finding that sub menu. I went into the Blu-ray player set up area and can't find a sub menu. Can you elaborate as to how to find it?
With in the Netflix app, on the left menu, below the + icon, you should see settings near the bottom left. In that settings menu you can find Reload Netflix. I needed to use that on both the ub820 netflixh app and my roku netflix app, to get the upgraded netf,ix service to work.

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With in the Netflix app, on the left menu, below the + icon, you should see settings near the bottom left. In that settings menu you can find Reload Netflix. I needed to use that on both the ub820 netflixh app and my roku netflix app, to get the upgraded netf,ix service to work.
Thanks for the suggestion. I found the area you are referring and did reload Netflix (twice now) and it didn't make any difference. None of the 4k programs on my list show a 4k reference now although they still show Atmos and HDR in the information area but they only play in 1080 for some reason. I guess, I will call Netflix tomorrow and if they can't fix it, I will just use the Netflix streaming app on my TV. It just seems weird since I'm sure I could stream Netflix 4k content from the 820 recently.

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Thanks for the suggestion. I found the area you are referring and did reload Netflix (twice now) and it didn't make any difference. None of the 4k programs on my list show a 4k reference now although they still show Atmos and HDR in the information area but they only play in 1080 for some reason. I guess, I will call Netflix tomorrow and if they can't fix it, I will just use the Netflix streaming app on my TV. It just seems weird since I'm sure I could stream Netflix 4k content from the 820 recently.
Ok, I think the UHD is there, but there is no room to list it once the HDR option is available. If you set the ub820 to SDR2020, the ultra HD should come back since this turns off HDR for the app. But you want to run HDR2020, too have UHD and HDR, right?

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i had one of these from amazon but sent back because on the auto setup think it said no 4k tv detected . i have samsung q9 even though have 4 certified leads any ideas


also this vs sony x800m2
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Do you think at CES nextyear,panasonic would announce a successor to the UB820?

Both these blu ray players -UB820 and 9000- are 2018 models, so is there a chance next year they could see successor model? I would like to see improvement in file playback via usb or network and support for sacd with a new model.

Im looking to buy a panasonic GZ series oled tv in the future and I feel that pairing it with a panasonic blu ray player will be the best match. Now that i've held off the UB820 all this while, will it be a good idea to hold off few more months and see what players they announce at CES?
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Do you think at CES nextyear,panasonic would announce a successor to the UB820?

Both these blu ray players -UB820 and 9000- are 2018 models, so is there a chance next year they could see successor model? I would like to see improvement in file playback via usb or network and support for sacd with a new model.

Im looking to buy a panasonic GZ series oled tv in the future and I feel that pairing it with a panasonic blu ray player will be the best match. Now that i've held off the UB820 all this while, will it be a good idea to hold off few more months and see what players they announce at CES?
No I read on another forum a key Panasonic vendor was told by them no replacements through 2020 at least

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Panasonic only replaced great UB420 and release *&%$# UB450... UB420 was too good and cheap.

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That link I provided tells all about the UB9000.

Below are some videos of the comparisons that have already been posted but I don't mind doing them again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77rwMAYe9M4&t=269s


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTw_Toh0PzA&t=41s


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The first movie doesn't work at all
The rest of the movies are really poor explanation

The Blue Ray 9000 was discontinued
Irrelevant
The rest of the video you brought with a very basic explanation of what's in Blue Ray
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Again, I'm very sorry
The first movie doesn't work at all
The rest of the movies are really poor explanation

The Blue Ray 9000 was discontinued
Irrelevant
The rest of the video you brought with a very basic explanation of what's in Blue Ray
Well my man that's my best shot.

If your asking something like do I prefer the UB9000 over the UB820 I 1st owned ???

Yes the UB9000 is without doubt the much-much superior machine.
Especially if you own a projector ...........

In reality there is no real comparison between the UB820 and UB9000 they are just totally on different Levels.

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No I read on another forum a key Panasonic vendor was told by them no replacements through 2020 at least

Yeah, I don't get that....

So no HDMI 2.1...

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Well my man that's my best shot.

If your asking something like do I prefer the UB9000 over the UB820 I 1st owned ???

Yes the UB9000 is without doubt the much-much superior machine.
Especially if you own a projector ...........

In reality there is no real comparison between the UB820 and UB9000 they are just totally on different Levels.

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Again, as far as I am aware the only differences between the UB820 and the UB9000 are that the UB9000: has a better build, has better analog outputs; and two more (6 vs. 4) peak white settings that work better for older projectors...

Other than that, the video quality of the two is the same.


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The first movie doesn't work at all
The rest of the movies are really poor explanation

The Blue Ray 9000 was discontinued
Irrelevant
The rest of the video you brought with a very basic explanation of what's in Blue Ray
I think the proper response to @tigerhonaker (who went above and beyond) would be:
"Thanks for all your help. The first video didn't work, but that's YT's problem. I guess maybe I should use google myself and see if I can find out what I want to know, because even after all the good help I've gotten here, I still don't know what to do."

But I was brought up in a time when we thanked people who tried to help us. Apparently you weren't.
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Again, as far as I am aware the only differences between the UB820 and the UB9000 are that the UB9000: has a better build, has better analog outputs; and two more (6 vs. 4) peak white settings that work better for older projectors...

Other than that, the video quality of the two is the same.

If I have all comments on these models from Kris sorted, the main ub9000 image management difference(s) were for the benefit of the JVC NX series. Differences ...

1) automation of the color filter via choice of the 500 nit option (auto filter off) or the 350 nit option (auto filter on). The 500 nit option can be adjusted to engage the color filter, and the filter can be disengaged under the 350 nit option. So this feature is a user friendly short cut which can be overridden.

2) the ub9000 500 nit vs 350 nit optimizer tone mapping options, on projectors or other lower nit range displays... While the 350 nit tone mapping may be a better/needed choice for the JVC NX series projectors, I did not observe any inherent benefit of using ub9000 350 nit mapping versus the ub820 500 nit mapping, on the JVC x990 (rs640), for either SDR2020 and HDR2020 output modes.

3) if I have it correct, Kris in the s&v ub820 review, mentioned when using SDR2020 output mode, the optimizer automatically maps to 350 nits (regardless of the display luminance setting). It is when using HDR2020 output mode, the display luminance setting will offer the 1000 nit, 750 nit, 500 nit and 350 nit (ub9000) tone mapping performance differences.

I believe the ub820 and ub9000 are the same with regard to all other image processing.

I welcome Kris correcting me if I have gotten any if this wrong.
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I do have the 4K format signal set to enhanced, so I don't think that is the problem.
You might have a setting wrong in the Panny. Make sure your 4K output is set to HDR/BT2020, not SDR/BT2020.

Also read the post below.

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You might have a setting wrong in the Panny. Make sure your 4K output is set to HDR/BT2020, not SDR/BT2020.

Also read the post below.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-b...l#post57328042

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Thanks for the suggestion. I did check and my 820 is set for HDR/BT.2020 (Auto) in the HDR/Color Gamut Output setting. Is this the setting you were referring?

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