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where is the ir sensor on the UB820 located?
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takes hours to plug in USB 3 that does not recognize ( i have 3 USB 3 sticks all the same problem )
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streamer not work with sound!

not usb2/3 give digital sound! ( Dolby/DTS HD audio, including Atmos and DTS:X )
the only sound you can hear through YouTube PCM
I have a usb 3.0 external hard drive plugged into the back right now and it plays fine. Just not dolby true hd

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where is the ir sensor on the UB820 located?
See p.9 of the manual:

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where is the ir sensor on the UB820 located?
See attachment. If you are wanting to place a remote flasher on the 820, it is kind of hard because it is behind the flip-down faceplate. There really isn't a way to place it directly over the sensor, behind the faceplate, and have the faceplate close completely.
If you place the remote sensor on the faceplate I'm not sure it would work with the faceplate open- which it is when the tray is open.

FWIW it seems to be responsive to remote commands and not terribly picky about needing to aim directly at the 820 in my use.
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See attachment. If you are wanting to place a remote flasher on the 820, it is kind of hard because it is behind the flip-down faceplate. There really isn't a way to place it directly over the sensor, behind the faceplate, and have the faceplate close completely.
If you place the remote sensor on the faceplate I'm not sure it would work with the faceplate open- which it is when the tray is open.
The Panasonic UB420 has the same sensor configuration as the 820. I dangle the IR blaster a couple of inches in front of the sensor on my 420 and it works just fine.
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If my TV only does 4:4:4 on PC Mode do I need to put the "4K/60p Output" Setting on something other than 4:4:4? Or does it matter?
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See p.9 of the manual:

thanks that worked, I taped the IR blaster on that spot - works great. The lid doesn't close fully but only a very small gap.
Anyway - would there be anything wrong if I left it without closing, or even fully open for that matter?
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Can you use the remote (for UB820) to control the volume on the Denon AV Receiver? Or the volume that the UB820 sends to the AV receiver? (I have a harmony Elite remote , but I only have this Panny and the AV receiver - and I prefer the button layout on the panny remote to that of the Harmony
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Can you use the remote (for UB820) to control the volume on the Denon AV Receiver? Or the volume that the UB820 sends to the AV receiver? (I have a harmony Elite remote , but I only have this Panny and the AV receiver - and I prefer the button layout on the panny remote to that of the Harmony
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Yes, see p.8 of the owners manual.
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DTS not is supported, only DD, problem with DTS can be easily resolved just turn off bitstream but after this avr got multichannel sound this mean you don't get dts:X metadata.
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Can you use the remote (for UB820) to control the volume on the Denon AV Receiver? Or the volume that the UB820 sends to the AV receiver? (I have a harmony Elite remote , but I only have this Panny and the AV receiver - and I prefer the button layout on the panny remote to that of the Harmony
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Yes, see p.8 of the owners manual.
the manual only has codes for TV. no code listed for Denon AVR
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the manual only has codes for TV. no code listed for Denon AVR
The CEC Control feature (Viera Link etc) allows using the TV’s remote to adjust the volume of the receiver. If, in addition to that, you also program the UB820 remote to emulate the TV volume control, that may do you you want, but I haven’t tried it.
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The CEC Control feature (Viera Link etc) allows using the TV’s remote to adjust the volume of the receiver. If, in addition to that, you also program the UB820 remote to emulate the TV volume control, that may do you you want, but I haven’t tried it.
I don't have a TV - I use a projector
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I don't have a TV - I use a projector
There is no difference between TV and projector in this context, as long as the remote code works.

EDIT: most projectors do not have a volume control, so that may not work.

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i have frimware 1.6
wireless lan 1.2

NO trueHD and NO DTS-HD NO Atmos output from USB
no DD and no dts output from USB

amazon broadcast in experiment ( Not paid )- only PCM 48 HZ 2 CH

anyone know where to hear on network, DD or DTS quality to check?
Is Netflix working? Honestly, this isn't the best streaming player and definitely not a good choice for USB file playback either. You're much better off uploading your library to Plex and streaming them that way. That's how I play my rips. Just make sure the computer with the server on it is plugged in to ethernet and not Wifi...I get Atmos and DTS:X over plex with my 4k rips. The Sony x700 was much better for USB videos but again, no TrueHD with MKV, but it did play M2TS files with TrueHD just fine.

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There is no difference between TV and projector in this context, as long as the remote code works.

EDIT: most projectors do not have a volume control, so that may not work.
Also, I don't see a code for Denon listed
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Is Netflix working? Honestly, this isn't the best streaming player and definitely not a good choice for USB file playback either. You're much better off uploading your library to Plex and streaming them that way. That's how I play my rips. Just make sure the computer with the server on it is plugged in to ethernet and not Wifi...I get Atmos and DTS:X over plex with my 4k rips. The Sony x700 was much better for USB videos but again, no TrueHD with MKV, but it did play M2TS files with TrueHD just fine.
Doesn't the UB820 process the streaming videos also to improve the video quality. Plus for those with some slightly older JVC projectors - doesn't it convert the HDR to SDR? i.e. woudn't it provide better PQ (and HDR PQ) that other (e.g. Roku or Shield) streamers?
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no DTS via USB
no DTS-HD via USB
no dts:X via USB
I literally just played a 4k rip of Planet Earth 2 with is DTS 5.1 from an external hard drive yesterday. Ripped it myself using makemkv. Rear USB from a usb 3.0 external hard drive formatted to ExFat.

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thank you for your help !

1. formatted to ExFat the USB 3 connector
2. i downloaded sound files from this site for review in 820
https://thedigitaltheater.com/
it works wonderfully on PC and Blue Ray OPPO

in Blue Ray Panasonic nothing works in sound via USB
NO DTS 5.1 / NO DD 5.1 / NO DTS-HD /no TrueHD

the only thing that works in 820 is the 2 channel Dolby Digital soundtrack
or
2 channels DTS
So I know the file has DD 5.1 but it also contains the 2.1 audio, it may have used the 2.1 stream. But my point is this blu ray player sucks for USB files. Better off using the plex app on your tv or xbox or something like that...

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I recently asked about 4:4:4 a few posts ago. Wanted to clarify and add to it.
My Samsung Q6FN only does 4:4:4 when renaming an Input to PC. Not currently doing that nor plan to but I do have the (4K/60P Output) on the 820 set at 4K/60P(4:4:4). Is this the correct setting if I'm never going to be getting 4:4:4 on the TV?

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The Q6FN is a 10 Bit TV. I currently have the (Deep Color Output) setting on the 820 at Auto(12 Bit Priority). Is this the correct setting or is there a 10 Bit setting I need to switch to?
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I was watching Wonder Woman (2017) and within 2 hours in the movie there was a slight layer change freeze, the ub820 timer froze up, and the remote stop sending commands to the unit, but the movie kept on playing. The same thing happened as well in The Man of Steel. Is this a common issue with the earlier 4K movies from Warner Bros with the ub820?
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if not TrueHD So all the movies in this format without the sound?
the Blue Ray doesn't know how to convert another sound.

and if there is none TrueHD no Atmos So why need 4K Via USB ?

DTS:X in Sony x700 work Via USB ?

in 820 Panasonic No other format conversion !
in 820 Panasonic - Panasonic guarantees conversion of PCM 48KHZ to 192 KHZ
but in receiver testing you can get only 48KHZ ( no 96 khz no 192KHZ )

i don't understand how Panasonic puts out a product so poorly, and promises elements
that do not work without updates and there is no support for Panasonic
Getting atmos over USB on the Sony x700 only works with M2TS files not mkv. So you can get atmos over USB, you just have to rip your 4k movies to M2TS rather than mkv.

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I was watching Wonder Woman (2017) and within 2 hours in the movie there was a slight layer change freeze, the ub820 timer froze up, and the remote stop sending commands to the unit, but the movie kept on playing. The same thing happened as well in The Man of Steel. Is this a common issue with the earlier 4K movies from Warner Bros with the ub820?
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Doesn't the UB820 process the streaming videos also to improve the video quality. Plus for those with some slightly older JVC projectors - doesn't it convert the HDR to SDR? i.e. woudn't it provide better PQ (and HDR PQ) that other (e.g. Roku or Shield) streamers?
Unfortunately, the 820 can only convert HDR to SDR from Amazon prime. Due to a flaw with the Netflix app, it cannot do this conversion for Netflix. The best it can do for projectors with Netflix is to apply the HDR optimizer. This is usually a very subtle improvement.

Also unfortunately, the Amazon prime app on the 820, is so problematic that it’s almost useless. The Amazon prime app is fraught with problems on many devices – not just the 820.

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Also, I don't see a code for Denon listed
To use it in the way I described (assuming it works) you would select the brand of the TV/projector, not the brand of the receiver.
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it makes no sense why close a Blue Ray OPPO division it's worth 50-100 million dollar .
People will always look for Quality processor, image quality improvement, Blue Ray, USB connection, streaming
These are all questions for 18 MONTHS ago, not today, and not this thread
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it makes no sense why close a Blue Ray OPPO division it's worth 50-100 million dollar .
People will always look for Quality processor, image quality improvement, Blue Ray, USB connection, streaming

and now a generation of HDMI 2.1 starting up will bring a new rash to close the company?
like oppo ?

OPPO has received publicity and fame thanks to its Blue Ray device
no sense, something we are not told.

cambridge Audio CXUHD 4K Instead of developing the same device, closed the production line?
after OPPO left her in the ring alone ?
no logic
And Oppo didn't have streaming either in their 203...I think we should be done with your rants. I think we all know you're disappointed with the player. I think it's time to either accept it's limitations or return it and move on.
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Can someone help me with this Dolby Vision and "low-latency" Dolby Vision thing? I am so incredibly confused...

In discussing if DV should be output in BT.2020 with someone on another forum they mentioned this:

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If your bluray player outputs the "real" DV, which is an RGB signal containing the actual data stream, your TV will probably *not* say bt2020 along with DV. Also your receiver should be able to tell you what video signal is incoming and outgoing. RGB 24 bit incoming should be reported if the real DV is being sent. if low latency DV is being sent it'll say ycbcr 422 12bit.

So what is the UB820 doing here? Should it be RGB? Or YPbCr?
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