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I just bought the UB820 player to go with my Sony z9d and had a question. I put the luminance setting at SUPER HIGH as this tv can go 1800 nits peak brightness but when I play a HDR10 Blu-ray like Lucy and I go to playback info... under hdr10 metadata it shows both the Blu-ray and my fav max at 1000, wouldn’t the super high put it at 1500? Regardless my tv can do even higher than that. Someone help explain this to me, thanks!
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I just bought the UB820 player to go with my Sony z9d and had a question. I put the luminance setting at SUPER HIGH as this tv can go 1800 nits peak brightness but when I play a HDR10 Blu-ray like Lucy and I go to playback info... under hdr10 metadata it shows both the Blu-ray and my fav max at 1000, wouldn’t the super high put it at 1500? Regardless my tv can do even higher than that. Someone help explain this to me, thanks!
The UB820 is just reporting the metadata of the disc. In the case of Lucy it's 1000 nits max, which is within your TV's capability so the UB does not need to do any tone mapping.

Note that tone mapping will not boost the luminance of the movie, even if your TV is capable of handling more.

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On some reviewers channels they noted some problems with image quality in Dolby Vision(blown out?). Has there been any updates to address this issue?

I have been very happy with the quality of this player, I don't have a 4k HDR tv yet but the player really seems to make Blu Rays look excellent. Sound even seems better than my old PS3 too although I'm not sure how much is wishful thinking.
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I just bought the UB820 player to go with my Sony z9d and had a question. I put the luminance setting at SUPER HIGH as this tv can go 1800 nits peak brightness but when I play a HDR10 Blu-ray like Lucy and I go to playback info... under hdr10 metadata it shows both the Blu-ray and my fav max at 1000, wouldn’t the super high put it at 1500? Regardless my tv can do even higher than that. Someone help explain this to me, thanks!
Super high is the correct setting for your display. This will help map down to 1500 nits at the source for movies that exceed 1000 nits. Since your tv can display 1500 nits comfortably, that would be the better option than having the player map all the way down to 1000.

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I just bought the UB820 player to go with my Sony z9d and had a question. I put the luminance setting at SUPER HIGH as this tv can go 1800 nits peak brightness but when I play a HDR10 Blu-ray like Lucy and I go to playback info... under hdr10 metadata it shows both the Blu-ray and my fav max at 1000, wouldn’t the super high put it at 1500? Regardless my tv can do even higher than that. Someone help explain this to me, thanks!
The UB820 HDR Optimizer will do its stuff when you play a title like Mad Max Fury Road where the brightest pixels reach beyond 4000 nits. The Optimizer will tone map the bright content down to 1500 nits in your case.

Look at the bright explosions when they drive into the dust storm. You should see more detail.

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You can try doing a reset or not. I don't care.
Sorry, didn't mean to offend you somehow. All I'm saying is it seems everyone has to keep resetting these units for one reason or another, there has got to be a better way. I learned the other day from a dealer that won't push the Panasonic anymore, even the $1200 model is junk apparently. They display their projectors with a $250 sony that they said was better and doesn't fail all the time like Panasonic. Sort of regretting buying it, but although I don't have any basis for comparison it does appear the PQ is pretty darn good. Shame reliability and function performance is so poor.

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Sorry, didn't mean to offend you somehow. All I'm saying is it seems everyone has to keep resetting these units for one reason or another, there has got to be a better way. I learned the other day from a dealer that won't push the Panasonic anymore, even the $1200 model is junk apparently. They display their projectors with a $250 sony that they said was better and doesn't fail all the time like Panasonic. Sort of regretting buying it, but although I don't have any basis for comparison it does appear the PQ is pretty darn good. Shame reliability and function performance is so poor.
For what it's worth I have now the Panasonic UB9000 and before that the UB820 for a year.
Neither ever gave me any negative issues !!!

I also had a Sony player and it worked nicely.

I also had a high-end Integra and it worked as expected with no issues.



Buy what one prefers and enjoy that item ................

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For what it's worth I have now the Panasonic UB9000 and before that the UB820 for a year.
Neither ever gave me any negative issues !!!

I also had a Sony player and it worked nicely.

I also had a high-end Integra and it worked as expected with no issues.



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Not had any issues with mine either. I also read the owner's manual on how to set it up and operate it.
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Hi everyone,
I just ordered a JVC faux 4k projector and I'm looking at the Panny UB820 to go with it.
What are the pros and cons of this unit as opposed to the 9000 which is MSRP $999? Or the UB420 which seems too cheap to be any good.

Does this unit have an itunes app or do I still need an appleTV?
Would I still want a Roku or can it do everything a Roku can?

Thanks! I am not much of a techie as you can tell. I know the answers are probably somewhere in this thread but it's 230 pages!!
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Hi everyone,
I just ordered a JVC faux 4k projector and I'm looking at the Panny UB820 to go with it.
What are the pros and cons of this unit as opposed to the 9000 which is MSRP $999? Or the UB420 which seems too cheap to be any good.

Does this unit have an itunes app or do I still need an appleTV?
Would I still want a Roku or can it do everything a Roku can?

Thanks! I am not much of a techie as you can tell. I know the answers are probably somewhere in this thread but it's 230 pages!!
Neither Panasonic player has any Apple TV+ App or Vudu or most anything else other than Netflix, Amazon, and YouTube. But hey, you get 4K HDR from YouTube. And all output from the streaming Apps is 4K60, no native 4K24 output.

With a JVC e-Shift projector, most will recommend sending SDR BT2020 using the UB820/UB9000 HDR Optimizer.

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Neither Panasonic player has any Apple TV+ App or Vudu or most anything else other than Netflix, Amazon, and YouTube. But hey, you get 4K HDR from YouTube. And all output from the streaming Apps is 4K60, no native 4K24 output.

With a JVC e-Shift projector, most will recommend sending SDR BT2020 using the UB820/UB9000 HDR Optimizer.
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Hi everyone,
I just ordered a JVC faux 4k projector and I'm looking at the Panny UB820 to go with it.
What are the pros and cons of this unit as opposed to the 9000 which is MSRP $999? Or the UB420 which seems too cheap to be any good.

Does this unit have an itunes app or do I still need an appleTV?
Would I still want a Roku or can it do everything a Roku can?

Thanks! I am not much of a techie as you can tell. I know the answers are probably somewhere in this thread but it's 230 pages!!
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Neither Panasonic player has any Apple TV+ App or Vudu or most anything else other than Netflix, Amazon, and YouTube. But hey, you get 4K HDR from YouTube. And all output from the streaming Apps is 4K60, no native 4K24 output.

With a JVC e-Shift projector, most will recommend sending SDR BT2020 using the UB820/UB9000 HDR Optimizer.
You can also go with the cheaper UB420, which provides the same needed functionality as its more expensive siblings, as I'm sure claw is well aware. Just posting to perhaps save you some money!
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Ok, so what does the extra $$ pay for over the cheaper model?
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Ok, so what does the extra $$ pay for over the cheaper model?
You can check features online, but by memory, the main difference is that the UB420 doesn't have Dolby Vision, which wouldn't be used with a Projector anyway.

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Ok thanks. You're right, I should just look directly.
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Ok, so what does the extra $$ pay for over the cheaper model?
The 820 adds Dolby Vision which no projector has. The 9000 adds customized optimizer settings for the newer JVC projectors (which you don't have) plus a different chassis with supposedly better "build quality" whatever that means. It certainly weighs more.

With your projector, all three will provide the same image quality and features.

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For what it's worth I have now the Panasonic UB9000 and before that the UB820 for a year.
Neither ever gave me any negative issues !!!

I also had a Sony player and it worked nicely.

I also had a high-end Integra and it worked as expected with no issues.



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So sufficed to say you've had a lot of BR player experience, this is my first. (I had an oppo DVD prior to this). Which players did you like most/least and why? IYO.

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So sufficed to say you've had a lot of BR player experience, this is my first. (I had an oppo DVD prior to this). Which players did you like most/least and why? IYO.
Ya know, this is the thread to discuss the Panasonic 820/824 UHD player. If you want help in choosing a new player, you should post your questions here:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-blu-ray-players/2482833-official-help-me-choose-uhd-player-thread.html
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So sufficed to say you've had a lot of BR player experience, this is my first. (I had an oppo DVD prior to this). Which players did you like most/least and why? IYO.
A simple but honest reply to your question ^^^.
I liked all of them that I have owned.
The real reason I went with the Panasonic UB9000 and exchanged the UB820 for it at Best Buy is.
I am not all that sure how many High-End players will continue to be offered.
So since I could exchange the UB820 (Worked Perfect) for the (Much-Much Higher-End) UB9000 and was only out the difference in cost.
I figured do it now and if manufacturers in the future do stop with the High-End units I'm already set.

Keep in mind that I have the JVC RS4500 Laser Projector which benefits from the UB9000 for increasing Video Performance.

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Neither Panasonic player has any Apple TV+ App or Vudu or most anything else other than Netflix, Amazon, and YouTube. But hey, you get 4K HDR from YouTube. And all output from the streaming Apps is 4K60, no native 4K24 output.

With a JVC e-Shift projector, most will recommend sending SDR BT2020 using the UB820/UB9000 HDR Optimizer.
All those 4K streaming apps look like invitations to cut the cable cord. Any reason not to do that? Can you add apps like HBOgo or Spectrum?
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All those 4K streaming apps look like invitations to cut the cable cord. Any reason not to do that? Can you add apps like HBOgo or Spectrum?
Panasonic is not a very good streaming player. You cannot add other apps.

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So I bought Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and the 4K disc will not play. It attempts to read it and just goes back to the main menu.

BD disc works fine. Just not 4K.

Has anyone else had this happen? Just curious before I go through the process of exchanging it.


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So I bought Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and the 4K disc will not play. It attempts to read it and just goes back to the main menu.

BD disc works fine. Just not 4K.

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4K disc plays fine on my 820.
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So I bought Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and the 4K disc will not play. It attempts to read it and just goes back to the main menu.

BD disc works fine. Just not 4K.

Has anyone else had this happen? Just curious before I go through the process of exchanging it.


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Try cleaning the disc, even if you don't see anything on it.
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Try cleaning the disc, even if you don't see anything on it.

Tried that (twice). No luck.

I’m guessing it’s just faulty. Only time I’ve not had a disc play in my 820.


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Tried that (twice). No luck.

I’m guessing it’s just faulty. Only time I’ve not had a disc play in my 820.


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I only got mine a couple of weeks ago but it already happened with two discs. In both cases a good wipe fixed it. Sorry you have to go the exchange route.
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I only got mine a couple of weeks ago but it already happened with two discs. In both cases a good wipe fixed it. Sorry you have to go the exchange route.

I loaded the Spears & Munsil UHD Benchmark (at least a dozen or more plays since purchase) to check some adjustments and got a message "This Disc is Not Playable" and my jaw dropped. First time I ever saw that for any disc since I bought the player last June. Visual inspection showed a number of fingerprints, all mine, I'm sure, likely from attempting to store the disc back on its hub in the dark. Gave it a good cleaning to make it shiny new looking. Reloaded. Played without a hitch.

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I've never had a problem with my 820. However, I wonder if the newest 4K discs have to have the latest in software update for the player? I know with my older Blu-ray player, the newest of the new Blu-rays would not play on them (or play properly) unless the player had the latest update. Though I'm not sure if all that is the same when it comes to playing 4K discs.

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I've never had a problem with my 820. However, I wonder if the newest 4K discs have to have the latest in software update for the player? I know with my older Blu-ray player, the newest of the new Blu-rays would not play on them (or play properly) unless the player had the latest update. Though I'm not sure if all that is the same when it comes to playing 4K discs.
V1.60 is the latest firmware version.
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