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post #7201 of 7297 Old 03-23-2020, 06:27 PM
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It could be. Remembering that HDR doesn't mean "everything brighter" and those high-nits are used for highlights, I can easily imagine a scene with someone in a boat at night firing a distress flare into the air. Cut to wide shot of the very small distant but very bright flare.
2% area is actually not that unrealistic, when it comes to HDR highlights. The white rectangle in the attached picture is 2% of the image area; something that spans 20% of the width and 10% of the height would be too.
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Some LGs nearly that high on a 2% area synthetic test. (Not realistic, I admit.)
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It could be. Remembering that HDR doesn't mean "everything brighter" and those high-nits are used for highlights, I can easily imagine a scene with someone in a boat at night firing a distress flare into the air. Cut to wide shot of the very small distant but very bright flare.

Yep I get it. It would have to be a very small bright object with the rest of the screen very dark or black! With OLED, I would wonder if it would even anywhere near that.

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Yep I get it. It would have to be a very small bright object with the rest of the screen very dark or black! With OLED, I would wonder if it would even anywhere near that.
As pointed out by others, it's 2% of the screen area. If it was a 16:9 rectangle, it would be about 1/7 of the linear dimension of the screen. Not very small for a highlight.

If you wish to be blasted by a 100% area white screen, one of the better LCDs is your best choice.

About 5 years or so ago, I saw a large LCD used as a uniform source of linearly polarized white light. Can't do that with an OLED, I imagine.
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I noticed something odd with my 820 yesterday.

I was going through the extras on my Karate Kid BD that came packed with my 4K disc. I noticed that, when navigating the menu, it always skips over two choices. It never navigates to what is "next" on the menu, but always the icon after it.

The audio commentary cannot be played. You can't even turn it on. If you navigate to the "On" icon, it just switches back to "Off." It also can't be manually turned on by pressing "Audio." Additionally, the Blu-Pop feature works, although there is no audio on the pop-up windows during the film. Just the original movie's sound.

I thought maybe I had a faulty disc, but I put it into my external BD drive that I use with my Macbook and everything worked fine. I thought maybe it was some kind of glitch with BD Secondary Audio, but I turned that both On/Off/Auto and it didn't make a difference.

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Anyone else have any blu ray read issues? I tried a blu ray last night and it wouldn't read it but another worked just fine.
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Anyone else have any blu ray read issues? I tried a blu ray last night and it wouldn't read it but another worked just fine.

Only time I’ve ever had something not read was because it was dirty. My once upon a time in Hollywood 4K disc would not read OTB, but I gave it an intense wipe down even though it did not look dirty at all and then it played fine.


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I noticed something odd with my 820 yesterday.

I was going through the extras on my Karate Kid BD that came packed with my 4K disc. I noticed that, when navigating the menu, it always skips over two choices. It never navigates to what is "next" on the menu, but always the icon after it.

The audio commentary cannot be played. You can't even turn it on. If you navigate to the "On" icon, it just switches back to "Off." It also can't be manually turned on by pressing "Audio." Additionally, the Blu-Pop feature works, although there is no audio on the pop-up windows during the film. Just the original movie's sound.

I thought maybe I had a faulty disc, but I put it into my external BD drive that I use with my Macbook and everything worked fine. I thought maybe it was some kind of glitch with BD Secondary Audio, but I turned that both On/Off/Auto and it didn't make a difference.

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I haven't been able to verify this, but I would first check your Digital Audio Output setting to see if BD-Video Secondary Audio is turned on. This might fix your problem.
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[QUOTE=mylan;59406564]Anyone else have any blu ray read issues? I tried a blu ray last night and it wouldn't read it but another worked just fine.[/QUOTE


I have the blu-ray version of Ratatouille that will not play on the 820. Actually, the previews play fine, but once it gets to the main menu, the 820 can't even display it. The disc works fine in an old Sony blu-ray player. I tried cleaning the disc, but nothing changed. Keep hoping that a firmware update will fix it.
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No Sound out of Netflix only

I originally connected the ub820 with a 10 gbps cable... everything was good but being that it would only connect with 4K on 4:2:2 Neflix would not output HDR, only 4K. I replaced this cable with an "iBirdie 18Gbps 6 ft" cable". After connecting things this way I rescanned and was able to connect to my Marantz 7702mkii with 4K 4:4:4 so Netflix does recognize that it can send me HDR and Atmos.

However, now I do not get any sounds with Netflix only. I though it was everything, but I tested a blu-ray disc and Youtube and both passed sound. Anyone know what could be wrong here?

I do have a shield, but I would like to get Netflix working through the ub820 as my Shield is a 2017 version so while it can stream HDR, it will not stream Atmos.
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hey guys i updated to the latest firmware on the ub820 and now my player shuts off every 13 to 15 minutes is there a old firmware i can download somewhare to fix this issue i bought the player a year ago so maybe its still under warranty but im not sure where my reciept is i bought it at bestbuy so maybe i have a online reciept but as of now im stuck watching movies on an xbox one and i really dont want to send it in for repair did anyone else have this issue and if so is there an easy fix ?
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Any 820 owners disappointed they didn’t get 9000? If so, why ?


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hey guys i updated to the latest firmware on the ub820 and now my player shuts off every 13 to 15 minutes is there a old firmware i can download somewhare to fix this issue i bought the player a year ago so maybe its still under warranty but im not sure where my reciept is i bought it at bestbuy so maybe i have a online reciept but as of now im stuck watching movies on an xbox one and i really dont want to send it in for repair did anyone else have this issue and if so is there an easy fix ?
What version firmware did you install? I am on 1.6 and it is trouble free.
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Mildly. I’d like to have the projector setting exclusive to the 9000 and the build quality is miles ahead of the 820. However, it’s just not enough to justify the price difference in my case.

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Hi Blake,

Well my Good-Man the reason I didn't get the Panasonic UB9000 the 1st go around it wasn't released to the USA.
In-Fact I think it was something like 9-10 months or so until Best Buy's (Magnolia Center) even had it for the USA after the UB820.
Only choice was going with the UB820 until the UB9000 was actually offered for sale in the USA market.

There is No way to really compare the two units as they are Honestly like comparing Apples to Oranges !!!

Build quality on the UB9000 is 1st class and to be even more Blunt the UB820 feels like a Toy or something to give a kid so if they Break it who would care.

I will be the 1st on this thread to say you certainly don't always get what you pay for.
But, the UB9000 is Definitely worth it's cost for Long-Term-Use in a High-End Dedicated H/T.

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Mildly. I’d like to have the projector setting exclusive to the 9000 and the bulls quality is miles ahead of the 820. However, it’s just not enough to justify the price difference in my case.
Nor mine, or most sane cases. The price difference is enormous - more than triple the cost in the UK. And for what? Better build quality, another setting in a menu (as you mention), and "hi-end audio" features that I will never, ever, ever use. There's no way in hell that is good value, or affordable. That model is really for the market of hi-end market, not the consumer market I'm in.
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Nor mine, or most sane cases. The price difference is enormous - more than triple the cost in the UK. And for what? Better build quality, another setting in a menu (as you mention), and "hi-end audio" features that I will never, ever, ever use. There's no way in hell that is good value, or affordable. That model is really for the market of hi-end market, not the consumer market I'm in.
My reasoning as well. All reviews that I have read indicate the if the only connections used from the Panny are HDMI, then the 820 will output the same quality image and sound as the 9000. In the US the price difference is a bit more than double. I like sturdy well built things as much as anybody, but another $500 +/- for build quality alone (as I'm HDMI only) just doesn't compute.
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Nor mine, or most sane cases. The price difference is enormous - more than triple the cost in the UK. And for what? Better build quality, another setting in a menu (as you mention), and "hi-end audio" features that I will never, ever, ever use. There's no way in hell that is good value, or affordable. That model is really for the market of hi-end market, not the consumer market I'm in.
I have the 820 also, I would have been interested in the 9000 if it offered SACD & DVDA playback and multi-channel for those also.
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My firmware is 1.60
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I have the same 1.6 update as you BobZealand but I don't have that problem your'e having.
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I suggest you review the troubleshooting guide in the owner's manual and reset the unit. Then reload the 1.60 firmware (if it will let you).


Oh. Next time you respond, please quote the post you are responding to so we can tell what you are talking about.
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I've read a bunch in here but still need some clarification. The scenario for intended use is playing MKVs (both BR and UHD) from a NAS and feeding a JVC RS-400, so taking advantage of the HDR Optimiser is important on those 4K rips and I want to output BT2020. As I understand it, 4K MKV rips will not be played using the Atmos audio track. In this install however, we will not be using an Atmos-capable receiver so standard TrueHD or DTS-MA is fine. Will this player (or the 420) work out for me? Seems like if I don't care about Atmos I'm set!?

I know I could buy an Oppo 203 or 205 for this setup but I don't want to spend that much $$.

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My firmware is 1.60

I suggest you review the troubleshooting guide in the owner's manual and reset the unit. Then reload the 1.60 firmware (if it will let you).



Oh. Next time you respond, please quote the post you are responding to so we can tell what you are talking about.

I did a factory reset and went back to factory settings and it still turns off every couple minutes I cant find my reciept but I should still have my warranty I downloaded the 1.60 firmware off the panasonic site and will try to reinstall it via usb port and hope that fixes the problem
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I did a factory reset and went back to factory settings and it still turns off every couple minutes I cant find my reciept but I should still have my warranty I downloaded the 1.60 firmware off the panasonic site and will try to reinstall it via usb port and hope that fixes the problem
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I've read a bunch in here but still need some clarification. The scenario for intended use is playing MKVs (both BR and UHD) from a NAS and feeding a JVC RS-400, so taking advantage of the HDR Optimiser is important on those 4K rips and I want to output BT2020. As I understand it, 4K MKV rips will not be played using the Atmos audio track. In this install however, we will not be using an Atmos-capable receiver so standard TrueHD or DTS-MA is fine. Will this player (or the 420) work out for me? Seems like if I don't care about Atmos I'm set!?

I know I could buy an Oppo 203 or 205 for this setup but I don't want to spend that much $$.
No TrueHD or DTS-MA from from MKV or any other file format. Only possible from actual shiny discs. You would have to settle for DD and DTS.
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My firmware is 1.60

I suggest you review the troubleshooting guide in the owner's manual and reset the unit. Then reload the 1.60 firmware (if it will let you).


Oh. Next time you respond, please quote the post you are responding to so we can tell what you are talking about.
I had a wonky firmware installation with this player before where it affected what audio level quality it would output. This is the first time I’ve ever had a device with a bad firmware install. However, after using the remote to do the many button press reset and reinstalling the firmware it worked great. Just thought I’d share my experience that it can help with these players quite a bit to reset them as I’ve read on many other instances as well. I wish you much luck!
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My firmware is 1.60

I suggest you review the troubleshooting guide in the owner's manual and reset the unit. Then reload the 1.60 firmware (if it will let you).


Oh. Next time you respond, please quote the post you are responding to so we can tell what you are talking about.
I had a wonky firmware installation with this player before where it affected what audio level quality it would output. This is the first time I’ve ever had a device with a bad firmware install. However, after using the remote to do the many button press reset and reinstalling the firmware it worked great. Just thought I’d share my experience that it can help with these players quite a bit to reset them as I’ve read on many other instances as well. I wish you much luck!
I reset the player yesterday and it still kept shutting down but I messed around with the settings today dont know what I did but it works now it was such a wierd problem but so far I watched 3 movies with no issues thanks for all the help if anyone is having the same issue with the player shutting off every couple minutes during a movie just mess with the video and hdmi settings etc. I have a screenshot of my settings if anyone with same issue wants to see it just let me know maybe it will help . Its hard to believe that this problem was caused do to the ub820's factory settings but im glad it works now 😊 I used my xbox x to watch acouple movies for the time being and I couldnt believe how much worser the PQ is so I'm really glad to have the player working again
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Hi guys, I'll try putting it out in this forum as I never got a reply in the PJ forum. I was wondering if anyone has attempted to do a strong comparison between letting an 820 BR player do the upconverting to 4K or toggling off that feature in the player and letting their PJ do it instead (in my case the 5040UB). Both units are capable of up-converting 1080 to 4K, wondering which is doing a better job of it.

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A big thumbs up to Crutchfield

I ordered a 820 from Crutchfield to replace our 420 (which we will give to a friend), for DV and because we like and will actually use the 820's front panel readout.

She said that they have 100 820s in stock and that they were made in China, per the info she had.

Normally, I get an order in 2 business days, but she said it might take longer than usual because they are wiping down the manufacturer's boxes before double boxing, due to COVID-19.

Way to go Crutchfield !!! Especially with us being 71 and 69 years old, and due to this worldwide pandemic.

I'll bet that Amazon, BB, and Walmart doesn't do this before shipping.

I can highly recommend Crutchfield - especially during these times.
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No TrueHD or DTS-MA from from MKV or any other file format. Only possible from actual shiny discs. You would have to settle for DD and DTS.
That’s a bummer. Might have to spring for an Oppo.

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Speakers: PSA MTM-210 LCR, BA VSi 593(4), BA VSi 560(4), BA e60(2), Seaton SubM F2+Slave
Display: 2.40:1 Seymour XD, JVC RS-600 + Panamorph Paladin
Sources: Dell AW Aurora R8, Oppo 205, ATT UVerse, Toshiba HD-A35 HD-DVD
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