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Perhaps a silly question, but would a standard Blu-ray played over a ub820 look better than say a lossless Blu-ray mkv run through a nvidia shield? What might have better upscaling?
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Perhaps a silly question, but would a standard Blu-ray played over a ub820 look better than say a lossless Blu-ray mkv run through a nvidia shield? What might have better upscaling?
Interesting question. Resolution-wise it depends whether you want the TV to do the upscaling from 1080p to UHD, or whether you set the player to upscale to UHD. The normal advice (when this is discussed with AVRs) is to always let the TV upscale, since the TV's upscalers are more modern. However this player has the same processing chipset as in Panasonic's (2018?) TVs. Therefore I think that even if you fix the resolution to still be 1080p, I think the player would do a better job at the expansion of the chroma subsampling stage from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2, and that's one of the reasons it's so expensive, that chipset.
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I’d like to add this to Clark’s post.

The N2QAYA000130 and 131 are both listed as a UB900 replacements. The 130 has manual skip and rewind buttons that the 131 lacks. On the 131, they are CC and DLNA buttons which are less useful for me, but YMMV.

They are both really cheap, while a real UB9000 remote usually costs a lot more. If you're looking for a UB9000 remote, check the pictures carefully. A real 9000 remote will have a HDR button. It is located in place of the sound effect button on the other remotes.
Below is the Panasonic UB9000 before it was opened to be installed.



Below is the Remote that comes in the Box of the Panasonic UB9000.



Note* You use to be able to purchase the same type of remote on-line from different sources.
I did that when I had the Panasonic UB820 that didn't have the Back-Lit remote.



Below is the Remote I purchased for use with the UB820 on-line.







Below is the invoice and as you can see it was actually for the Panasonic UB900.
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i ordered a UB9000 remote from an online shop in Spain.

The only difference between mine and the one you pictured is that mine has -10 sec and +60 sec manual skip buttons instead of the CC and Mirroring buttons. The skip buttons are nice to have.
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Has anybody here watched IP Man 4 on 4k Blu-ray Disc, with their 820?

I ask, because I just bought it, and it pixellates starting on the Menu screen, and continues if I try to actually watch the movie. I thoroughly cleaned it, with no effect. And actually, the first time I put it in, a message came up with it couldn't read the disc at all (I forget the exact wording). I cleaned it, and it at least got past that screen, but the pixellation was problematic.

I returned the Disc to Amazon, and got a replacement today, but have the same problem - almost immediate pixellation. I then played it without difficulty on my Sony X800 Player in a different room.

I seem to run into this with a very small number of discs which this player struggles with, while the Sony doesn't.

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Has anybody here watched IP Man 4 on 4k Blu-ray Disc, with their 820?

I ask, because I just bought it, and it pixellates starting on the Menu screen, and continues if I try to actually watch the movie. I thoroughly cleaned it, with no effect. And actually, the first time I put it in, a message came up with it couldn't read the disc at all (I forget the exact wording). I cleaned it, and it at least got past that screen, but the pixellation was problematic.

I returned the Disc to Amazon, and got a replacement today, but have the same problem - almost immediate pixellation. I then played it without difficulty on my Sony X800 Player in a different room.

I seem to run into this with a very small number of discs which this player struggles with, while the Sony doesn't.

Let me know - thanks.
I watched this disc didn't have any problem. My display is only 1080p though.
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Last night I watched the Midway UHD disc, also on a 1080p display. It played fine, but of course Dolby Vision was not being used, so I still can't tell you if firmware 1.64 fixes the Midway DV problem reported by others with the (still-current) 1.60 firmware.
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I watched this disc didn't have any problem. My display is only 1080p though.
Thanks for the reply. But you did play the UHD Disc, or was it the HD bluray?

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When I play the Midway UHD disc, the only way I've found for it to play without any freezes is if I have DV turned off on my UB820.

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Is it still problematic with mkv files /true hd audio?
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I watched this disc didn't have any problem. My display is only 1080p though.
Thanks for the reply. But you did play the UHD Disc, or was it the HD bluray?
It’s the UHD disc I got it first day release from
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Try turning off Dolby vision and audio delay settings to see if it changes. Or unplug it for a while. Just a guess.
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I got a remote from eBay it seems to be a counterfeit or OEM remote for ub900. It doesn’t have the HDR or the go back 10 seconds. But there is a light button that lights up. It weights more doesn’t have the Netflix button in a poor location. way better than the stock un820 remote. I got it for less than $20.
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It’s the UHD disc I got it first day release from
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Try turning off Dolby vision and audio delay settings to see if it changes. Or unplug it for a while. Just a guess.
Thanks for confirming it was the UHD disc that you were playing.

I'm connected to a JVC Projector, so Dolby Vision is already off.

The fix, at least temporary, is your last comment, about unplugging it.

I ran into this issue with a different disc about a month ago. Unplugging and replugging it in after 5 minutes or so, didn't have any effect. So I just unplugged it overnight, and the next morning it was able to play that problematic disc without issue. With IP Man, I unplugged it for about 10 minutes, but no effect. So I unplugged it last night, and tried again just now, and it plays the disc fine.

So there's something 'funky' going on here, which only a prolonged unplugging seems to solve. What the minimum time is I can't say, but overnight seems to do it.

I'm hoping, though not optimistic, that the new upcoming firmware might fix this. When this will become available in the U.S., I have no idea. In the meanwhile, I guess I'll just have to unplug it periodically. I may have to look into an outlet plug that can be controlled by Control4, to automatically cut the power to it on a regular basis if the firmware doesn't come soon, or doesn't fix it when it does.

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Thanks for confirming it was the UHD disc that you were playing.

I'm connected to a JVC Projector, so Dolby Vision is already off.

The fix, at least temporary, is your last comment, about unplugging it.

I ran into this issue with a different disc about a month ago. Unplugging and replugging it in after 5 minutes or so, didn't have any effect. So I just unplugged it overnight, and the next morning it was able to play that problematic disc without issue. With IP Man, I unplugged it for about 10 minutes, but no effect. So I unplugged it last night, and tried again just now, and it plays the disc fine.

So there's something 'funky' going on here, which only a prolonged unplugging seems to solve. What the minimum time is I can't say, but overnight seems to do it.

I'm hoping, though not optimistic, that the new upcoming firmware might fix this. When this will become available in the U.S., I have no idea. In the meanwhile, I guess I'll just have to unplug it periodically. I may have to look into an outlet plug that can be controlled by Control4, to automatically cut the power to it on a regular basis if the firmware doesn't come soon, or doesn't fix it when it does.
Oh good that you can watch the disc now but overall concerning.
I have all my stuff plugged into my power conditioner and a master switch shuts the power to everything when I am done for the day (because everything draws about 60W just standing by). So essentially I have unplugged everything between viewings.
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I got a remote from eBay it seems to be a counterfeit or OEM remote for ub900. It doesn’t have the HDR or the go back 10 seconds. But there is a light button that lights up. It weights more doesn’t have the Netflix button in a poor location. way better than the stock un820 remote. I got it for less than $20.
There was no hHDR button on the 900 remote, just the 9000 and 820 etc. Sounds like you have the US 900 remote. Skip is the euro ones I think.
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I got a remote from eBay it seems to be a counterfeit or OEM remote for ub900. It doesn’t have the HDR or the go back 10 seconds. But there is a light button that lights up. It weights more doesn’t have the Netflix button in a poor location. way better than the stock un820 remote. I got it for less than $20.
I believe the only remote that has both an HDR button and -10 and +60 second skip buttons is the European UB9000 remote.

The European UB900 remote has the -10/+60 second skip buttons but no HDR button.

The US UB9000 remote has an HDR button but no -10/+60 second skip buttons.
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Is it still problematic with mkv files /true hd audio?
What do you mean "still problematic"?

Lossless audio was and is not supported from mkv files. This is not a bug, it is a design decision. It's never going to change in any firmware update. It was not problematic before, that implies it worked sometimes but had problems

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Below is the Panasonic UB9000 before it was opened to be installed.



Below is the Remote that comes in the Box of the Panasonic UB9000.



Note* You use to be able to purchase the same type of remote on-line from different sources.
I did that when I had the Panasonic UB820 that didn't have the Back-Lit remote.



Below is the Remote I purchased for use with the UB820 on-line.







Below is the invoice and as you can see it was actually for the Panasonic UB900.
This was back in 11/14/2018.



There you have the Full-Story on it guys ^^^


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Thank you, the pic of the actual UB-9000 remote was very helpful in identifying the real thing. Many sites selling alternatives and yes it was very expensive - just over $100 from Panasonic but as I plan on keeping the UB-820 for a while as I do not see anything else on the horizon that would likely make me want to upgrade. Thanks again.
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Well I decided to pull the trigger and bought one today at BB
Setup was super easy, though I say that after watching several youtube videos on unboxing, setup, reviews, etc. so I had an edge. Still it was very easy to set up.

I've not had a chance to read the owner's manual yet though I have dl'd it and will likely tonight or tomorrow but I do have a question. If I stop the movie I'm watching and shut down the player then start it up again will it pick up where I left off or give me that option?

I watched the BD version of The Mummy 2 and honestly I saw quite an improvement in video quality compared to my LG UBK90. Better detail and clarity by quite a factor...woohoo !
Can't wait to watch a Dolby Vision movie to really see how it plays, but my wife and I started the trilogy last night and will watch #3 tomorrow night.

I'm glad I decided to buy it !
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I've not had a chance to read the owner's manual yet though I have dl'd it and will likely tonight or tomorrow but I do have a question. If I stop the movie I'm watching and shut down the player then start it up again will it pick up where I left off or give me that option?
Surprisingly, it seems this depends on the Disc, and not the player. You can do some searching in this thread for discussion on this point to provide the specifics, but this seems to be the bottom line.
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I've not had a chance to read the owner's manual yet though I have dl'd it and will likely tonight or tomorrow but I do have a question. If I stop the movie I'm watching and shut down the player then start it up again will it pick up where I left off or give me that option?
I had a lot of questions with related issues when I first bought the 820. First off, there is no screensaver even though there is a non-related function in the menu that is worded screensaver. While I have since confirmed there is in fact no screensaver feature like an Oppo, some BR media has them somehow. I've noticed a bunch of 20th Century Fox films come with an active screensaver.

With regards to the start-where-left-off, the other member is correct. It depends on the disk and it's prohibitions. Some do, some start from the beggining and force you to go through every warning and preview, and some start from the beginning but you can skip right to the menu. I believe the biggest culprits of this annoyance is BD-J (Bluray Disk Java) which is a large pain-in-the-&@^ than it's worth. I think it allows for special menus but allows them extra control overall. Here's an interesting article I just found:
https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...on-Remove-BD-J
Unless the player is hacked, it is at the mercy of the disk you put inside of it. Since we cannot talk about this subject, I am not completely sure if options I had considered are legit.
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Well I decided to pull the trigger and bought one today at BB
Setup was super easy, though I say that after watching several youtube videos on unboxing, setup, reviews, etc. so I had an edge. Still it was very easy to set up.

I've not had a chance to read the owner's manual yet though I have dl'd it and will likely tonight or tomorrow but I do have a question. If I stop the movie I'm watching and shut down the player then start it up again will it pick up where I left off or give me that option?

I watched the BD version of The Mummy 2 and honestly I saw quite an improvement in video quality compared to my LG UBK90. Better detail and clarity by quite a factor...woohoo !
Can't wait to watch a Dolby Vision movie to really see how it plays, but my wife and I started the trilogy last night and will watch #3 tomorrow night.

I'm glad I decided to buy it !
I recently upgraded from the UP970. 1080P bluays have never looked better. I watched Hobbs and Shaw 4k, but preferred HDR10 with enhancer over Dolby Vision. I'm just happy I have the option of choosing now.
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I had a lot of questions with related issues when I first bought the 820. First off, there is no screensaver even though there is a non-related function in the menu that is worded screensaver. While I have since confirmed there is in fact no screensaver feature like an Oppo, some BR media has them somehow. I've noticed a bunch of 20th Century Fox films come with an active screensaver.

With regards to the start-where-left-off, the other member is correct. It depends on the disk and it's prohibitions. Some do, some start from the beggining and force you to go through every warning and preview, and some start from the beginning but you can skip right to the menu. I believe the biggest culprits of this annoyance is BD-J (Bluray Disk Java) which is a large pain-in-the-&@^ than it's worth. I think it allows for special menus but allows them extra control overall. Here's an interesting article I just found:
https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...on-Remove-BD-J
Unless the player is hacked, it is at the mercy of the disk you put inside of it. Since we cannot talk about this subject, I am not completely sure if options I had considered are legit.
I can't tell you how much I despise BDJ. There is nothing you need on a disc you can't do without it.
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I noticed the press release, at least as far as I could understand the Engrish, stated that the first 4K disc with BD-J was.. Midway.
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I noticed the press release, at least as far as I could understand the Engrish, stated that the first 4K disc with BD-J was.. Midway.
Hmm - so not Knives Out? That was the other one that was causing issues with Panasonic.
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thanks! I Will try unplugging my ub820 whenever i get a bad glitchy video disc.
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Anyone know when Panasonic schedules releases for newer models as this models thread is nearly 2 years old? TIA

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They are not releasing a new player this year. There are no new features.

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