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post #1411 of 5943 Old 09-21-2018, 11:45 AM
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Hi Rich,

I just called Panasonic and they say the "K" just stands for Black. There is no difference between the players internally or as far as features. He said it is retailer specific model. Some will carry the "K" version and some wont.
Thanks for checking on this. But I wonder why Panasonic's own site has it marked as "Preorder" only? It is obvious this unit has been available for a while now.

BTW, has anyone noticed any incompatibilities or oddities with this device interfacing with the Sony X900F series of TVs?
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OK, I received my 820 today from Best Buy and here are my first impressions. I updated it to the current firmware v1.26 first thing.

I am using it with my 2016 LG OLED 55C6 TV.

Note that I have turned Dolby Vision off in the player settings since DV can't be calibrated on the 2016 OLEDs and mine has a green push in that mode since Chad B couldn't calibrate it like the other modes. So I will be using only HDR10. Thank goodness it can be turned off.

The HDR Optimizer (set to the "OLED" setting for my TV) works well so far (tested with Batman vs. Superman UHD disc). I noticed clearly more highlight detail and color in several scenes that normally had blown-out highlights. It does not dim the overall picture. You can toggle it on and off while playing. Very nice!

I also found out that the HDR Optimizer CAN be turned on in the built-in Netflix app! You have to long-press the "HDR SETTING" button on the remote to get to the "Optimum HDR Adjustment" menu while Netflix HDR is playing. I have only watched Lost In Space so far in HDR and the optimizer doesn't seem to have any effect so far in that show. It must be mastered for only 1000 nits.

At first, I couldn't get Netflix in HDR at all until I turned off the setting called "HDR10+ Setting" in Player Settings / HDMI. That was on by default. Kinda dumb since who knows if there will ever even be any HDR10+ material!

Atmos is working fine in Netflix as well.

2 questions for the group:

1) Does anyone know how to get to the Netflix "stats" that can be shown in the upper-left corner of the screen on other platforms?

2) Does anyone know how to change the front panel display to read remaining time instead of elapsed time? I can't seem to find a setting for that.

The "Home Network" DLNA function needs work. My HD home videos would play but with no audio! They are just stereo 1080P files, nothing fancy. There's this really annoying on-screen message "Now reading..." that shows up every time when skippng manually between photos. Thankfully, it only shows up at the beginning in slideshow mode, which by the way, is clunky to even get to. If this doesn't get any better, I'll have to continue to use my Sony .X800 for DLNA (not to mention SACD & DVD Audio which the 820 does not do)

The "Net Service" menu (where Netflix, Amazon and Youtube are) is pretty terrible (as mentioned here before) and needs major updating.

I have not yet tested Amazon or Youtube.

3D discs play fine.
I'm still unable to get HDR optimizer when watching Netflix. I's love to know what your 820 HDMI and App settings are to double check mine.

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I'm sure this has been asked before, and I am sorry...

But, other than Dolby Vision - anything else the 820 does/does better/has that the 900 doesn't?
HDR tone mapping for specific content, which is a pretty big deal.
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I’m getting Dolby Atmos on both Netflix and Amazon Prime, although the Prime app is still a bit too glitchy to watch. Hope they fix it soon.

The 820 is hands down the best streamer of Netflix with the TM capabilities. It runs flawlessly as well.
Are u using audio out to av receiver or are u going player to av receiver to tv I'm wondering if the audio out won't pass atoms on netflix
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Are u using audio out to av receiver or are u going player to av receiver to tv I'm wondering if the audio out won't pass atoms on netflix
Hello kwk2293,

When you say "audio out" are you talking about optical out or the HDMI audio only out? In any event, optical out will not pass ATMOS but the audio only HDMI will.
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When you say "audio out" are you talking about optical out or the HDMI audio only out? In any event, optical out will not pass ATMOS but the audio only HDMI will.
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Thanks. That's how I have my player set up. Audio only HDMI to my Denon receiver and normal HDMI connected directly to my Samsung TV.
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Thanks. That's how I have my player set up. Audio only HDMI to my Denon receiver and normal HDMI connected directly to my Samsung TV.
Ok thx guess I'll just keep messing around with it but I'm running out of things to try to get atoms on Netflix. Wish they would add Hulu only other streaming service I use very often
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are u using audio out to av receiver or are u going player to av receiver to tv i'm wondering if the audio out won't pass atoms on netflix
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I'm still unable to get HDR optimizer when watching Netflix. I's love to know what your 820 HDMI and App settings are to double check mine.
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I sure hope VUDU is added to the player. I'm a Sony X800 user and would definitely move to the 820 if VUDU gets added. I have VUDU on my Roku 4K device but I have several 3D movies on VUDU which can't be played on it... They work on the X800 but not the Roku.

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I have a weird audio decoding issue. I have the player connected to a Sony sound bar via HDMI. I have the player set to PCM so that it can decode the audio. The issue i'm having is that all the DTS HD audio tracks are being sent by the player as 7.1 ch. ie i was watching Bachelor Party which has a DTS HD mono track but the player sent out the PCM audio as 7.1 ch. The player option to reformat all the DTS HD tracks to 7.1 ch is set to off so i'm not sure what the heck is going on. Any ideas on how to fix this issue is greatly appreciated. Thanks!


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Hello, I'm about to get the Panasonic DP-UB820 4k player delivered (hopefully tomorrow!) and really looking forward to seeing how much of a difference it's going to make with my 4k discs and BD discs as I've been using the Samsung K8500 since I've had my dedicated theatre room. I have an Epson TW9300 projector (equivalent to the 5040ub/6040ub in Europe and the U.S. I believe) with a 120 inch screen and I'm curious as to what settings I should use to get the best out of my projector picture.

I know it's not a 4k native projector and it's had the update that supposedly added HDR but I doubt that did too much. Should I just leave the projector set on auto for HDR but then set the Panasonic to HDR>SDR BT2020 and the HDR optimizer 'ON' like I have seen others suggest on here as it will give a look that is as close to HDR as possible with a projector?

Would appreciate the advice, especially if others have a similar set up as I am not the most technically savvy bloke going around! Cheers!



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But, the ability to control the contrast levels makes titles such as Alien:Covenant or BR 2049 a real pleasure. My previous BR player is the Oppo 203. Excellent PQ except just so dark with HDR. I never could get a satisfactory combination of HDR settings.

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Ok I have a quick question for those using this with their JVC projectors. I have a RS-520 and I am doing the SDR color gamut as stated by Kris Deering. When I play the 4k disc it shows HDR conversion or something of that nature. I am also not able to use the luminance slider. Is this the way it is supposed to work in this setting or is there something I am doing wrong? Does anyone have a screen shot of the settings for the player they are using with the JVC projectors so I can copy that? ALso a couple people have stated that I do not need to use the HD Linker when using this 820 player as they stated it allows the Projector to engage the Dynamic Iris when using the 820. Just need advice. Thanks in advance.
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Bumping this as I'm sure I'm not the ONLY Synology using (or trying to, in this case) this player😁

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Struggling to get my UB820 to see my Synology 1812+, let alone connect to it.

I'm trying to do it wirelessly but it doesn't list it in devices. How do I get the UB820 to see my Nas?

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Ok I have a quick question for those using this with their JVC projectors. I have a RS-520 and I am doing the SDR color gamut as stated by Kris Deering. When I play the 4k disc it shows HDR conversion or something of that nature. I am also not able to use the luminance slider. Is this the way it is supposed to work in this setting or is there something I am doing wrong? Does anyone have a screen shot of the settings for the player they are using with the JVC projectors so I can copy that? ALso a couple people have stated that I do not need to use the HD Linker when using this 820 player as they stated it allows the Projector to engage the Dynamic Iris when using the 820. Just need advice. Thanks in advance.
Yes, that is the way it works. The Luminance slider is only for HDR output mode. In SDR/BT2020 output mode you can adjust the Dynamic Conversion Adjustment slider.

Regarding the HDfury Linker:

When the UB820 is in SDR/BT2020 output mode, the Linker is not needed. Unlike the UB900, the UB820 has a SDR/BT2020 menu option. The RS520 will never disable the dynamic iris when it sees SDR BT.2020.

When the UB820 is in HDR output mode, a Linker/Vertex/Integral is still needed to prevent the RS520 from disabling the dynamic iris.
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Yes, that is the way it works. The Luminance slider is only for HDR output mode. In SDR/BT2020 output mode you can adjust the Dynamic Conversion Adjustment slider.

Regarding the HDfury Linker:

When the UB820 is in SDR/BT2020 output mode, the Linker is not needed. Unlike the UB900, the UB820 has a SDR/BT2020 menu option. The RS520 will never disable the dynamic iris when it sees SDR BT.2020.

When the UB820 is in HDR output mode, a Linker/Vertex/Integral is still needed to prevent the RS520 from disabling the dynamic iris.
Cool so I can just remove the linker from my chain. No reason to use it if using the ub820. One thing I would need to use it for would be the xbox 1 x but for some reason it wont pass video when it is attatched to the linker. The on screen HDMI input is in yellow.
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Is there a requirement and/or a method to calibrate the 820 tone map controls?

I have assumed the factory (0) settings are designed to generate the ideal map curve, and just use the slider to adjust for image brightness.

However, with hdr10 patterns, can a user those other controls to dial in better performance via a more accurate mapping?

For instance, with the other controls at (0), is that designed to retain a specific amount of headroom over what optimizer does when adjusting to disc meta data?

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Hey guys. Rookie question as I am trying to learn about all this 4K stuff. My plan is to pair the Panasonic DP-UB820 with a VIZIO P-Series Quantum 65" TV - PQ65-F1.


Is this a good pairing? Also, does my receiver need to have Dolby Vision capability as well to use the DV?


Again, pardon my ignorance.
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Watched mad max fury road last night and it looked great
I’ve seen some past tone mapping comparisons on this movie and the player did a great job of not blowing out the bright scenes like the lightening strikes
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JVC Color Temp Question

For those using SDR/BT2020 with a JVC (non calibrated), is it better to use color temp preset of HDR or 6500? What exactly is "HDR" color temperature? Thanks.
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Yes, that is the way it works. The Luminance slider is only for HDR output mode. In SDR/BT2020 output mode you can adjust the Dynamic Conversion Adjustment slider.

Regarding the HDfury Linker:

When the UB820 is in SDR/BT2020 output mode, the Linker is not needed. Unlike the UB900, the UB820 has a SDR/BT2020 menu option. The RS520 will never disable the dynamic iris when it sees SDR BT.2020.

When the UB820 is in HDR output mode, a Linker/Vertex/Integral is still needed to prevent the RS520 from disabling the dynamic iris.
Ok I got another question. I am using the SDR/BT2020 output mode on the 820 but when I go in and look at the input on the last screen on the jvc GUI it shows HDR=Yes. I am pretty sure that is supposed to not be there. I was watching Deadpool 2 last night and it did not look like the DI was engaged. Are there other settings on the player I need to get disable like contents type flag?
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For those using SDR/BT2020 with a JVC (non calibrated), is it better to use color temp preset of HDR or 6500? What exactly is "HDR" color temperature? Thanks.
My understanding is you chose HDR and then there is another box under that and you pick 6500
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Ok I got another question. I am using the SDR/BT2020 output mode on the 820 but when I go in and look at the input on the last screen on the jvc GUI it shows HDR=Yes. I am pretty sure that is supposed to not be there. I was watching Deadpool 2 last night and it did not look like the DI was engaged. Are there other settings on the player I need to get disable like contents type flag?
Yes, this is a quirk of the UB820 when sending SDR BT.2020 to a display that supports HDR. The UB820 is including the original HDR metadata in the output, but with EOTF1 instead of EOTF2 (PQ).

The JVC Information page reports this as HDR even though it has been tone mapped to SDR BT.2020 by the UB820. Fortunately, the JVC does not disable the dynamic iris. It must be checking the EOTF value for that.

Use your SDR BT.2020 user profile with a 2.4 gamma.
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Will the 820 play an .MKV of a DVD (not a Blu Ray) rip over network w/ DD or DTS audio?

I know it won't play the HD audio formats, but wasn't clear on playability of DVD rips and AC3 or DTS audio.

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Yes, this is a quirk of the UB820 when sending SDR BT.2020 to a display that supports HDR. The UB820 is including the original HDR metadata in the output, but with EOTF1 instead of EOTF2 (PQ).

The JVC Information page reports this as HDR even though it has been tone mapped to SDR BT.2020 by the UB820. Fortunately, the JVC does not disable the dynamic iris. It must be checking the EOTF value for that.

Use your SDR BT.2020 user profile with a 2.4 gamma.
Thanks a million my friend!!!! Just wish JVC could be a little more user friendly.
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Yes, that is the way it works. The Luminance slider is only for HDR output mode. In SDR/BT2020 output mode you can adjust the Dynamic Conversion Adjustment slider.

Regarding the HDfury Linker:

When the UB820 is in SDR/BT2020 output mode, the Linker is not needed. Unlike the UB900, the UB820 has a SDR/BT2020 menu option. The RS520 will never disable the dynamic iris when it sees SDR BT.2020.

When the UB820 is in HDR output mode, a Linker/Vertex/Integral is still needed to prevent the RS520 from disabling the dynamic iris.
Adding to this, while not strictly needed, the Vertex is required IF you want the JVC to switch automatically to the correct user video profile you've set up for SDR / BT2020 - at least it is with an RS500, so not sure about RS520. You can of course switch the profile yourself manually w/out the Vertex (and then switch it back...).

With my RS500, Vertex is also needed to automatically (via RS232 port on Vertex to PJ) switch back and forth to different video profiles based on HDR (or SDR / Rec. 709 for that matter).

Though my Integral was needed to make my Panasonic 900 and JVC do the SDR BT2020 thing, as stated above you don't need Integral with the 820, but the Vertex and the auto video profile switching to match input signal parameters is a big plus for my use (especially when other family members use it).

Just thought I'd point this out, as it seems like my "TV's" all analyze the signal and do this already, but my RS500 does not, but with the Vertex it is one less thing to deal with.
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The one pain in the ass thing is watching HDR netflix on this. You have to manually change the output back to HDR 2020.
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Hey guys. Rookie question as I am trying to learn about all this 4K stuff. My plan is to pair the Panasonic DP-UB820 with a VIZIO P-Series Quantum 65" TV - PQ65-F1.


Is this a good pairing? Also, does my receiver need to have Dolby Vision capability as well to use the DV?


Again, pardon my ignorance.
I hear the new Vizio P-Series is a pretty nice set and would pair well with the UB820. Actually, any high end TV or projector would benefit from the Panasonic's HDR tone mapping and chroma upscaling. I know my 3 year old Samsung did. The HDR went from just okay to spectacular IMO.


Yes, your receiver will need to have Dolby Vision pass-through capability. Which one do you have?
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I hear the new Vizio P-Series is a pretty nice set and would pair well with the UB820. Actually, any high end TV or projector would benefit from the Panasonic's HDR tone mapping and chroma upscaling. I know my 3 year old Samsung did. The HDR went from just okay to spectacular IMO.


Yes, your receiver will need to have Dolby Vision pass-through capability. Which one do you have?
I have a Yamaha RX-V663 so I guess I have held out upgrading long enough.
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