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I watched it on the 820 in HDR10. Some of the inside shots looked dark, may have used natural light or something. Many of the day shots were sharp.
As a general rule I've found DV images to be a bit brighter than those in HDR10 but color saturation is, at times, a tad richer in the latter. Outlaw King's image was relatively flat which I suspect was a choice given the historical era and rural world that it took place in. The DP did manage to highlight Chris Pine's eyes however. Score one for his fans.
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Just set this player up today. The Netflix and Amazon Prime apps are extremely slow to load and scroll through, and they hesitate, especially compared to the smoothness of Amazon Fire TV and my Oppo 103 player. Otherwise sound and pic are fine- but using the menus is awful. Is this anyone else's experience? Thank you.
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Might help us give you answers if you list the equipment (receiver, display) and how your cables are ran.
I have the HDMI video out connected to a Vizio PQ65F1 and the HDMI audio out connected to a Yamaha RX-V671BL AV RECEIVER. I also have an ARC connection from the Vizio to the Yamaha. The ARC connection works fine when playing movies, however I would like it to work directly from the HDMI input to the receiver also.
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I have the HDMI video out connected to a Vizio PQ65F1 and the HDMI audio out connected to a Yamaha RX-V671BL AV RECEIVER. I also have an ARC connection from the Vizio to the Yamaha. The ARC connection works fine when playing movies, however I would like it to work directly from the HDMI input to the receiver also.
If you remove the ARC HDMI cable, do you get audio to the AVR? It sounds to me that your TV and AVR are prioritizing ARC audio.

My AVR sometimes chooses the TV ARC audio even when playing discs or streaming from external devices. My AVR reports "TV Audio" in that case. I have to reselect the AVR input that I have my audio only HDMI cable connected to.

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I have the same exact issue with the audio to the receiver from DP-U820 and Oppo-93-NO SOUND when ARC connection is used between TV to Receiver.
only once I unplug the cable from Pq65-f1 to my Denon it will work.

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Does anyone here know what is new in the 820-k version of this player that is available for pre-order from Panasonic? Is there any reason to wait for that one? thanks
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Does anyone here know what is new in the 820-k version of this player that is available for pre-order from Panasonic? Is there any reason to wait for that one? thanks
I purchased Model: DP-UB820-K from Best Buy in August. There is no new model. Panasonic is just now adding the player to their online store.
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So if Panny doesn't add VUDU to the player the only option for me to get my Dolby Vision titles that are redeemed to my VUDU from Movies Anywhere is to buy an Apple TV 4k for a minimum of $135. Kinda stinks.
Of course the VUDU app built into the TV works for my DV titles, but then I won't have sound outputting to my receiver. Would connecting to the ARC channel on my 940E allow for the built in apps to send audio to my receiver?
Right now I'm going into input 2 on the 940E which is not ARC channel.

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Does anyone here know what is new in the 820-k version of this player that is available for pre-order from Panasonic? Is there any reason to wait for that one? thanks

It has been discussed before that the 820 and 820-k are the same thing. The "k" in some model numbers is to denote "black".
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Just purchased a samsung q7fn 55" tv. Is this blue ray 820 a good option for me or is it over kill. I'm a novice when it comes to this.
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Volume control on UB820

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Received my UP820 today, replacing Oppo-105 (served well, but need 4K). BUT I am using the analogue outputs and there doesn't seem to be a volume control? I feed straight into both a pre-amp and some of the channels directly into power amps. If I can't control the volume, then this will not work. Thanks.
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Just purchased a samsung q7fn 55" tv. Is this blue ray 820 a good option for me or is it over kill. I'm a novice when it comes to this.
This player will provide you with the absolute most control over your HDR10 metadata of any device available which is nice for dimmer/darker movies. Your display hits around 1000-2000 nits according to Rtings so this player maps everything above that down to 1000 or 1500 nits so you don't lose any detail in the super bright highlights and also does not dim the rest of the image. Its the best by far for HDR options. The dynamic range slider is worth it alone in my opinion. I boost my dynamic range slider up to +4. Looks stunning.

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Evan thanks for your reply. Can this unit be used as a stand alone unit to use on hd channels or only with disks and Netflix. I don't have much experience with av. Back in the 70's I was using a phase linear amp on my system. New a little bit more than I do now.
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Received my UP820 today, replacing Oppo-105 (served well, but need 4K). BUT I am using the analogue outputs and there doesn't seem to be a volume control? I feed straight into both a pre-amp and some of the channels directly into power amps. If I can't control the volume, then this will not work. Thanks.
I guess I will answer my own question! I can't find any way to control the volume on the analoge outputs. Problem is that this seems to be the only player with 5/7 analogue outputs now that Oppo has gone mobile. Solution, keep the Oppo-105 for processing and feed it with the optical output from the UB820. Any other ideas?
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Received my UP820 today, replacing Oppo-105 (served well, but need 4K). BUT I am using the analogue outputs and there doesn't seem to be a volume control? I feed straight into both a pre-amp and some of the channels directly into power amps. If I can't control the volume, then this will not work. Thanks.
According to the manual (Page 8), the volume button on the 820's remote controls the TV volume. On my Oppo 103, the remote's volume button controls the analog output volume.

If someone else confirms this analog operation on the 820, then this is a deal-breaker for me in regards to getting the 820. My 103 goes directly to powered speakers and I use the 103's volume control to increase that volume.

Thanks for the alert.

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According to the manual (Page 8), the volume button on the 820's remote controls the TV volume. On my Oppo 103, the remote's volume button controls the analog output volume.

If someone else confirms this analog operation on the 820, then this is a deal-breaker for me in regards to getting the 820. My 103 goes directly to powered speakers and I use the 103's volume control to increase that volume.

Thanks for the alert.

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Yup, that's exactly how I used to do it. I even downloaded the 820 model to my Logitech multi control, hoping there would be some hidden codes but no.. As I just posted, I have now connected my Oppo 105 to the 820, using the optical output. Works perfectly! For me it has a dual use, since I can put my Oppo in a mode for European/Australian DVD and Blurays. Anyway, sound is great now and picture through my new Epson 4010 is unbelievable.!
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I just ordered the 820 to check it out. I swear i read somewhere in this thread in batman vs superman the fuzzy/blurry highlights got more defined because of the way it tone maps. I just cant remember if it does it for my tv.
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Just looking for some clarification. If I understand this correctly, when you put in a DV disc the player automatically plays DV and you don't have to manually switch it to DV correct? I'm looking to replace my old Samsung player that's not DV compatible.

Also, does this player have the ability to output the discs native format without upscaling. Or does it upscale everything. That's one thing I never liked about my Samsung. If you wanted to let the TV do the scaling of a 1080p disc you had to go in the players menu and select 1080p output. Players should be able to output a discs native format.

If manufacture still made informative and detailed manuals like they use to, this information would be in them but not anymore which is sad.

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Just looking for some clarification. If I understand this correctly, when you put in a DV disc the player automatically plays DV and you don't have to manually switch it to DV correct? I'm looking to replace my old Samsung player that's not DV compatible.

Also, does this player have the ability to output the discs native format without upscaling. Or does it upscale everything. That's one thing I never liked about my Samsung. If you wanted to let the TV do the scaling of a 1080p disc you had to go in the players menu and select 1080p output. Players should be able to output a discs native format.

If manufacture still made informative and detailed manuals like they use to, this information would be in them but not anymore which is sad.

I can't answer your first question but can answer the second question. Unfortunately the player doesn't have an "Original Resolution" option like my Sony X800 4K Blu-Ray does. If you put the 820 in 4K mode, it upscales everything. The good news is that it does a very good job of upscaling. If you wanted to let your TV do the upscaling, you would basically have to do the same thing you do on your Samsung and change the settings when you are playing 1080p content. Also, all of the streaming apps (although they are limited) are also streamed in 4K60P with the settings I have on mine.

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I can't answer your first question but can answer the second question. Unfortunately the player doesn't have an "Original Resolution" option like my Sony X800 4K Blu-Ray does. If you put the 820 in 4K mode, it upscales everything. The good news is that it does a very good job of upscaling. If you wanted to let your TV do the upscaling, you would basically have to do the same thing you do on your Samsung and change the settings when you are playing 1080p content. Also, all of the streaming apps (although they are limited) are also streamed in 4K60P with the settings I have on mine.
Thank you for the information. That's kind of what I figured after looking through the manuals resolution settings.

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Anyone heard if Panasonic have confiremd the Netflix audio sync issue for this player? It's perfect apart from this issue.
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Anyone heard if Panasonic have confiremd the Netflix audio sync issue for this player? It's perfect apart from this issue.
I noticed this since the last update. It definitely wasn’t there before. It’s annoying and I hope they fix it.
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Hello, I've just wanted to ask about the 820 if it is a step up from video quality from my LG UP970?

I wanted to get a quality player for UHD discs specifically.

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Hello, I've just wanted to ask about the 820 if it is a step up from video quality from my LG UP970?

I wanted to get a quality player for UHD discs specifically.

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It’s a fantastic disc player for sure. Depending on your TV the optimizer is it’s real bread and butter. In my case however I just wasn’t seeing the benefits of the optimizer on my TV enough to warrant the $350 it costs over the X700. The PQ I felt was slightly better than the X700 as well for what that’s worth but again just not drastic enough to be worth the extra money to me. I could only go back to the X700 to still get DV with my TV so never used a 970.

If you don’t have a Sony TV the BK90 or whatever it’s called that replaced the 970 is supposed to be better than the 970 and will be a Black Friday special at Best Buy too. But if you have an OLED, Projector or low nit LCD then the optimizer would be worth every penny according to these forums and every review. I would say buy it and try it out for yourself now if you can find one and return it if it doesn’t meet your expectations before Black Friday and nab something else if your not happy with the 970.

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Just looking for some clarification. If I understand this correctly, when you put in a DV disc the player automatically plays DV and you don't have to manually switch it to DV correct? I'm looking to replace my old Samsung player that's not DV compatible.

Also, does this player have the ability to output the discs native format without upscaling. Or does it upscale everything. That's one thing I never liked about my Samsung. If you wanted to let the TV do the scaling of a 1080p disc you had to go in the players menu and select 1080p output. Players should be able to output a discs native format.

If manufacture still made informative and detailed manuals like they use to, this information would be in them but not anymore which is sad.

If you have the Dolby Vision enabled (on by default), yes it will automatically output in Dolby Vision if the disc is encoded with it. If you go into the menu of the Panasonic and turn it off, it will output HDR10. Which is a nice option if your display is not DV capable.
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It’s a fantastic disc player for sure. Depending on your TV the optimizer is it’s real bread and butter. In my case however I just wasn’t seeing the benefits of the optimizer on my TV enough to warrant the $350 it costs over the X700. The PQ I felt was slightly better than the X700 as well for what that’s worth but again just not drastic enough to be worth the extra money to me. I could only go back to the X700 to still get DV with my TV so never used a 970.

If you don’t have a Sony TV the BK90 or whatever it’s called that replaced the 970 is supposed to be better than the 970 and will be a Black Friday special at Best Buy too. But if you have an OLED, Projector or low nit LCD then the optimizer would be worth every penny according to these forums and every review. I would say buy it and try it out for yourself now if you can find one and return it if it doesn’t meet your expectations before Black Friday and nab something else if your not happy with the 970.
I see, so it works better for OLED because of the optimizer? I do have a 65C8. I don't know which one to get as DV is pretty nice and viewing experience watching from UHD discs have been pretty great so far for me.


I've heard that there is a UB-9000 that is releasing? I was wondering if I should wait and save for the UB-9000 or just get the UB-820? If video quality is the same.
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It’s a fantastic disc player for sure. Depending on your TV the optimizer is it’s real bread and butter. In my case however I just wasn’t seeing the benefits of the optimizer on my TV enough to warrant the $350 it costs over the X700. The PQ I felt was slightly better than the X700 as well for what that’s worth but again just not drastic enough to be worth the extra money to me. I could only go back to the X700 to still get DV with my TV so never used a 970.

If you don’t have a Sony TV the BK90 or whatever it’s called that replaced the 970 is supposed to be better than the 970 and will be a Black Friday special at Best Buy too. But if you have an OLED, Projector or low nit LCD then the optimizer would be worth every penny according to these forums and every review. I would say buy it and try it out for yourself now if you can find one and return it if it doesn’t meet your expectations before Black Friday and nab something else if your not happy with the 970.
I see, so it works better for OLED because of the optimizer? I do have a 65C8. I don't know which one to get as DV is pretty nice and viewing experience watching from UHD discs have been pretty great so far for me.


I've heard that there is a UB-9000 that is releasing? I was wondering if I should wait and save for the UB-9000 or just get the UB-820? If video quality is the same.
Well if you haven’t experienced and problems with the 970 and are just looking to get a more premium player then I would say yes the the 820 would be a step up especially with an OLED. If you look back through the thread you can find comparisons with the hdr optimizer on and off using an OLED. Off would probably represent your 970 since it doesn’t do any of its own tone mapping. Now I believe I read the C SERIES OLEDs have pretty good tone mapping but you’d still benefit from the optimizer. The optimizer means nothing for DV as it’s disabled since the metadata is there to accomplish the same thing. The optimizer is to help with the static metadata of HDR10.

Build quality wise, outside of the addition of the screen, isn’t gonna seam much better than you LG as the 820 is still mostly plastic and pretty light. That doesn’t mean it isn’t built better but nothing about the build of it screamed premium to me. The 9000 is gonna cost twice as much to get that tank like build quality. The real value of the 820 is the optimizer which I think you’d really appreciate and that it’s DV capable. Again I personally felt the PQ was better than the X700 but I don’t know if that means it’s also better than the 970.

It’s definitely worth trying. Keep it if you like it or return it if you don’t. I really wanted to love everything about the player and give myself reasons to keep it but in the end I personally didn’t feel I was getting the added cost worth out of it but that is just my personal opinion for me. I certainly could see where everyone else gets there value out of it though as there are settings galore.
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