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post #2731 of 5119 Old 01-07-2019, 04:31 PM
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Is there any way to disable the Off Timer Function on this player? After about 15 mins it goes on standby with black screen then if I press play it goes back up. Kinda annoying. My Oppo 203 used to play a screen saver instead.
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Is there any way to disable the Off Timer Function on this player? After about 15 mins it goes on standby with black screen then if I press play it goes back up. Kinda annoying. My Oppo 203 used to play a screen saver instead.
Short answer: no. We are hoping this is addressed along with having the player run a screensaver in a future firmware release, but no word on that from Panasonic.
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I have tried two different Dolby Vision discs and they both only will show as HDR10... any ideas I can try? I have DV enabled as well as 12 bit but when displaying playback info it’s only displaying 10 bit. Says I’m on the most current firmware at 1.47. My TV (C8) displays DV on Netflix and has the most current firmware.. My AVR (S720W) has the firmware update containing Dolby Vision as well.

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Hi, I have an Epson 6040 (5040) and just got the UB820.

Correct me if I'm wrong for the only settings to change in the UB820:
- Set Color Mode to Ycbr 4:2:2
- Leave Deep COlor Output to Auto (12bit Priority)
- Set HDR TV Type to Basic Luminance

Do I need to set to

HDR/Color Output to SDR/BT.2020 (Auto)
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HDR/Color Output to HDR/BT.2020 (Auto)

If I set it to SDR I don't get to use the HDR Settings options. Will the HDR optimizer still work?

I also have Resolution to Auto, 4k60p Off, 24p output Auto, DV Off, HDR10+ On

Anything else I need to change, or anything set incorrectly? Thanks!
Use HDR/Color Output to SDR/BT.2020 (Auto). You have the display set to Projector, so the Tone Mapping is enabled. You can't use the HDR Optimizer slider but you can still adjust the Luminescence Bright Curve and Dark Curve using the Options button once a UHD disc is playing. I like that with SDR output you can perform a SDR calibration if needed, which is easier than an HDR calibration.

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So now that LG, Sony, Samsung 2019 TVs will have HDMI 2.1 - what does this mean for the UB820...
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Nothing.

OK, well, maybe nothing for the UB820...

But Panasonic will probably come out with an HDMI 2.1 "UB850" in short order...?

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What does one do if the projector does not have a BT2020 profile? My Sony VPL-HW40ES has REC709 and 2 generic names profiles (description says TV and Movie).
Does the 40ES have "DCI" as an option? I own the Sony 1100ES and it doesn't have BT2020 but does have DCI (which is a subset of BT2020). The 820 won't recognize DCI as a BT2020 compliant device so, as another forum member states, you will need to get something like the HDFury Integral 2 to "fool" the 820 into thinking you have a BT2020 capable device. You can then use the DCI setting on your projector when receiving BT2020 output... That is what I have done, however, I don't now that I would say that it has been worth the effort. I have calibrated my projector for both REC709 and BT2020 (using my DCI setting) and I still prefer the REC709 option. I think the main reason for this is that the DCI setting on my projector cuts down on the light output for some reason.


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OK, well, maybe nothing for the UB820...

But Panasonic will probably come out with an HDMI 2.1 "UB850" in short order...?
Are you anticipating any content that would require HDMI 2.1 on a BD player? (4k 120FPS, 8k.) HDMI 2.1 sounds cool, but I'm not sure when it will become relevant. (Leaving off eARC, which is available on hardware that supports none of the other HDMI 2.1 features.)
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Im not sure players and AVR's will get HDMI 2.1 chips this year, and I'd be really hesitant on the displays claiming it first year. They like to pull tricks with specs to be first.
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I have an 820 on order, arriving today. Swapping out my Sony x700. One question I have is can one use the HDMI optimizer settings on Netflix streaming stuff, both SDR and HDR? Or is it disc only?

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HDR Opt works on HDR Amazon and Netflix.
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Red face Panasonic UB820 is Amazing

I had this since they came out and was blown away, I was sad i didnt get an Oppo 203 but having the UB820 which i feel is better then the 203 makes me happy especially for using with a Projector. Only downside is the MKV files not working.

Also i saw a video on youtube where someone compared the UB9000 with the UB820 and you could hardly tell a difference.

So happy and this is the Oppo killer.
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I had this since they came out and was blown away, I was sad i didnt get an Oppo 203 but having the UB820 which i feel is better then the 203 makes me happy especially for using with a Projector. Only downside is the MKV files not working.

Also i saw a video on youtube where someone compared the UB9000 with the UB820 and you could hardly tell a difference.

So happy and this is the Oppo killer.
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I have an 820 on order, arriving today. Swapping out my Sony x700. One question I have is can one use the HDMI optimizer settings on Netflix streaming stuff, both SDR and HDR? Or is it disc only?
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HDR Opt works on HDR Amazon and Netflix.
@gadgtfreek is right, and in my experience, the HDR Optimizer makes a noticeable positive difference on streaming PQ. That said, my experience, confirmed by others here, is that the Netflix app introduces some uncorrectable a/v sync errors. For me, they're consistent, and sometimes annoying. The APrime app also has a bug in that UHD content has a small, intermittent stutter that for me is right on the bubble between annoying and tolerable, depending.

I'm hoping that future firmware updates will address these issues, as I do prefer playback through the 820 over the built-in LG C8 app. The C8 app looks fine, but the 820 is appreciably better.
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Yeah, I just use a Roku for Netflix and Amazon, especially since it outputs 24hz as well.

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Bar Area Peeps...if you're looking to get this awesome machine... a few of BB stores have them in stock.
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A good player for barflies?

(Yeah, I know it's a typo. Or a Freudian slip.)
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I have the A9F and when I got home this Saturday after being away all last week my Panny UB820 Was waiting for me from value electronics. From what I understand the Sony is supposed to have very good (simulated) HDR tone mapping. It has also been stated that the Panasonic has very good HDR tone mapping.

So I’m confused as to whether to leave the Panasonic‘s HDR optimizer enabled or disabled. Any ideas or suggestions. Any information appreciated.

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Stranger Things UHD Discs

I received for Christmas the Target VHS style UHD box set of Stranger Things. I had watched on NF in 1080p on my projector when it came out. I threw this in on Sunday and was impressed by the brightness that was missing when I streamed this. I did a check and was a little baffled that it was indeed 4k but Rec 709. I checked all my settings and even threw in my John Wick 4k disc and everything was fine. Has anyone seen a 4k disc encoded with Rec 709 before? I didn't notice any real issues with the image and my settings for 4k, I did try my 4k1080 settings and the image was too dark.

Just wondering why NF would encode 4K at rec 709.

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I received for Christmas the Target VHS style UHD box set of Stranger Things. I had watched on NF in 1080p on my projector when it came out. I threw this in on Sunday and was impressed by the brightness that was missing when I streamed this. I did a check and was a little baffled that it was indeed 4k but Rec 709. I checked all my settings and even threw in my John Wick 4k disc and everything was fine. Has anyone seen a 4k disc encoded with Rec 709 before? I didn't notice any real issues with the image and my settings for 4k, I did try my 4k1080 settings and the image was too dark.

Just wondering why NF would encode 4K at rec 709.

Stranger things is one of the few non HDR 4k discs

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Stranger things is one of the few non HDR 4k discs
Hotel Artemis is the one 4k non-HDR disk that I own. I was surprised by it. (Also something of a ripoff. To me, the HDR aspect is more significant than 4k.)
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Im not sure players and AVR's will get HDMI 2.1 chips this year, and I'd be really hesitant on the displays claiming it first year. They like to pull tricks with specs to be first.


At this point, 2.1 is more about marketing than anything else. It’ll be years before there’s content that can take advantage of it. We’re still dealing with half-baked 4k HDR implementation. The early implementations of 2.1 will also likely be compromised until the chipsets are ready, to say nothing of the new HDMI cables that’ll be required (as far as I know, they don’t even exist yet). 12 bit color (which should be arriving before long) will be a much more meaningful advance in PQ


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Hotel Artemis is the one 4k non-HDR disk that I own. I was surprised by it. (Also something of a ripoff. To me, the HDR aspect is more significant than 4k.)
More often than not it's been the fact that the UHD has an Atmos or DTS:X soundtrack that has swung the purchase for me over the blu ray.
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Stranger things is one of the few non HDR 4k discs
When you say non HDR, do you mean it is BT2020 but no HDR metadata? Or it is 4k rec709?
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Wonder if you can point me to the article that Mr. Chris Deering mentioned about the settings between these 2 units. Many thanks !!!!!!!


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- If you read this thread from the beginning you would know that the UB820 does not support any HD audio when playing video media from USB or disk storage.

- SDR/BT2020 mode does not drop bit depth to 8-bit. It retains the BT.2020 wide color gamut that is contained in the original content and will output either 10-bit or 12-bit. SDR/REC709 mode may output 8-bit. You may still get REC709 if your projector does not support BT.2020 and you select SDR/BT2020 output mode.

- SDR/BT2020 mode is recommended for projectors. Because of their limited brightness capabilities they use very aggressive tone mapping to map the bright highlights that exceed the projector capabilities to display. In UB820 HDR output mode, the HDR Optimizer performs aggressive tone mapping to map the bright highlights above 500 nits (HDR TV Type Projector). Chris Deering posted that applying two aggressive tone maps; HDR Optimizer tone mapping plus Projector tone mapping is not good practice. He recommends SDR/BT2020 mode for all projectors, not just JVC, letting the HDR Optimizer perform all of the tone mapping.

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Google Netflix Atmos support and you will see what devices do.

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I've been recommended this player in light of an impending 4k projector upgrade. Our daily watching is mostly streaming Netflix/Prime from an Apple TV(4th gen).

Is the streaming quality of Netflix/Prime out of the 820 comparable to that of the standalone streaming boxes? Thanks!
I'm using the 820 on a 1080p projector. I have noticed that Netflix displays a bit of a quirk with movement - on a BBC Planet Earth show for example...an animal walking across the screen does not move smoothly. Very slight stutter but noticeable. I haven't found the right combination of settings to fix that yet.

The Prime Video app works well but for me it has an overall darker picture compared to PS4 and Apple TV4K. I like the sound from the 820 better than the ATV though.
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Wonder if you can point me to the article that Mr. Chris Deering mentioned about the settings between these 2 units. Many thanks !!!!!!!
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