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I ran into the same thing with DIRECT mode. According to the Owner's Manual, DIRECT doesn't work with digital input, only analog. I might get around to trying CD mode connecting via RCA Out to Anthem Analog In.
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If you choose PURE in the HDMI setting you get sound but DIRECT means you only get RCA analog sound.
Has anybody experienced a small click through the speakers just when a SACD ends a second before going to STOP? I cannot recall happening in my first listenings but now it happens even in PURE and DIRECT modes.
I also noticed that after playing music if I go from DIRECT AUDIO ON back to DIRECT OFF, the HDMI CONTROL lights up on the display when I always have it OFF. This has happened to me only twice.
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Hi Ballparks, yes, I got around to reading the manual, well, that part anyway, and it seems that it plays a CD (or perhaps a SACD with the right settings, not what I use) and through the analog outs. Works great and sounds wonderful at first listen.
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Hello good day.

I have managed to play remux hd and remux uhd on the lx-500 without problems by usb.

Now it's time to test by network, and if, from my nas, the Pioneer lx-500 recognizes both formats. The remux without problems, but the full recognizes only the internal folders, and you have to find what is the movie.

Does anybody know how to do to read the full directly? For usb for the full, just put the file in the folder AVCHD, and already read the lx-500, but by network I can not find the way, can you help me?

For the moment I have not suffered any image freeze, I cross my fingers.
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Spent a few days with the LX 500 now and have to say I am WAY impressed!!!!!
The picture quality is great, and that is with my old HD tv, I do not yet have 4K. So will hope to report on that later.
But sound quality and playing ability are great. IMHO.
I have not experienced a single problem, and this baby plays every kind of disc I have to throw at it. And with aplomb.
No snags anywhere, plays everything.
And it is built like a tank, as so many have commented. I think that has to mean something in terms of low noise and high fidelity.
Even just spinning a blu ray concert, with my DAC in my Emo XMC-1 doing the heavy lifting, sound and picture are top notch. The late, great C. Abbado conducting the Lucerne Festival Orch. Mahler Sym. 3 just makes the hair stand up on my arm in the Adagio finale!!!!!!
BRAVO!!!!! What more could I ask for? The dynamic range on this disc is a challenge, I just turned it up for the quieter passages and left it there when it got LOUD. LOVED IT!!!!!
Quiet, straightforward, simple to setup and use, and does play everything asked of it, I am becoming a fan.
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I have a question that is slightly different than the poster above dealing with analog outs and SACD.

My setup is this: I have a separate Stereo-only setup with RCA analog L/R outputs to my Integrated Amp. On my Anthem MRX 1120 I have an input setting using HDMI with ARC for audio for TV/Movies/Streaming. I have numerous hybrid SACDs, some of which have multiple surround channels. What I am trying to do is this: Set a Pioneer menu option to default hybrid multi-channel SACDs to play 2-channel SACD. I don't see such an option. I know that once in "Stop" mode I can use the "CD/SACD" button on the remote. My old SACD player had a menu option for default play options for SACD.

Also.... Maybe it is me; when I insert a SACD and after loading it begins to play, and I have to press the Stop button two times before I really get to "stop" mode, when I can use the CD/SACD option. The first "stop press" gets me in pause mode only. Is that right?

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No such option in the menu to play stereo as default. When pressing stop only once it a pause actually, have tp press it twice and then change layer.
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I have a question about audio settings on my LX500. The player is connected to a Marantz SR-7012 via a single HDMI cable. I understand that by selecting PCM under the audio output settings on the LX500, I am telling the player to decode the audio, and by selecting Bitstream, I am passing the audio info on for the AVR to decode. (The manual shows the default setting to be PCM, which is where I have had it since I got the unit.)

I read recently that for Dolby Atmos soundtracks, the setting should be bitstream--however, with the PCM setting, I am seeing "Dolby Atmos" on the AVR display, and my Atmos speakers are definitely working.

Is the LX500 a rare new player that can decode Atmos and send it out as PCM? Will I hear a difference with the bitstream setting, or doesn't it matter?

Thanks for any info anyone can provide in advance.
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I have a question about audio settings on my LX500. The player is connected to a Marantz SR-7012 via a single HDMI cable. I understand that by selecting PCM under the audio output settings on the LX500, I am telling the player to decode the audio, and by selecting Bitstream, I am passing the audio info on for the AVR to decode. (The manual shows the default setting to be PCM, which is where I have had it since I got the unit.)



I read recently that for Dolby Atmos soundtracks, the setting should be bitstream--however, with the PCM setting, I am seeing "Dolby Atmos" on the AVR display, and my Atmos speakers are definitely working.



Is the LX500 a rare new player that can decode Atmos and send it out as PCM? Will I hear a difference with the bitstream setting, or doesn't it matter?



Thanks for any info anyone can provide in advance.


That audio menu options are related to the coaxial/optical digital outputs. Not the HDMI.




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Silly me--I see that now; and I do have the HDMI audio out set to bitstream. Apparently I have everything set correctly, and my player/AVR combo are working perfectly--sorry for any time-wasting that occurred.
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Anybody watch Aquaman in 4K on this player yet? Any issues with freezing or playback?


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is this player better than the UB9000?
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Hi quentinnw2, ^^^^^
I have the LX500 and have not seen the UB9000, because, for me it is a no brainer. I am more interested in sound quality and the ability to play all my discs, SACDs, DVD-As, Blu ray music, and CDs. The Panny will not play but half of those, so the fact that a few people say the PQ may be a smidgen superior is not even a factor for me.
YMMV as you may be interested in the nth degree in PQ and not in being able to play those discs.
Hope that helps,
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Pioneer UDP-LX 500 / 800 Owners Thread (No Price Talk)

I owned both Panny UB-420 and the Pioneer LX-500 and I’ll tell you this, Pioneer LX-500 is the better value buy. The PQ of the LX-500 is no slouch when compared to Panny. The difference is not day and night but when it comes to audio department, Panny is no way near as good as the Pioneer.

While one can argue that UB-9000 has better components than my UB-420 as such the sound should be better. It maybe true but in term of playability of the various file formats, both players are identical.

The choice is clear when you ask yourself whether playback SACD or DVD Audio is crucial to you. If so, it’s a no brainer to get the Pioneer over the Panny.

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New pause on chapter 11(min.105) of Fantastic beasts the crimes... Tried again after finishing the film and it happens on exactly the same spot.
Anyone can confirm if it is a 100gb disc? So far only had had problems with that kind of uhds.
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New pause on chapter 11(min.105) of Fantastic beasts the crimes... Tried again after finishing the film and it happens on exactly the same spot.

Anyone can confirm if it is a 100gb disc? So far only had had problems with that kind of uhds.


Interesting. Watched it last night and no freezes for me. Weird thing is I had a freeze toward the end of Mortal Engines and nobody else did.


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Anybody watch Aquaman in 4K on this player yet? Any issues with freezing or playback?


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I had the movie freeze then stutter for a few seconds at the point where they are first enter Atlantis. Never seen the stuttering before. Rewound but could not reproduce it.

I learned this weekend that the Oppo 203 has a very handy feature that allows it to play back a disc while using external subtitles saved on a USB stick. Does the Pioneer LX500 have something similar? The same technique that works with the Oppo - name the external subtitles as "sub.srt" on the USB drive and it shows up as a subtitle option - doesn't work on the Pioneer but maybe there's a different method that works on the Pioneer?
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Tone mapping on the LX500

Has any one determined how customizable the hdr tone mapping features are on the Pio? I’m trying to determine if I buy the Panny 9000 with configurable tone mapping or the Pio...2 channel music playback is also very important to me and I understand the Pio is very good because of its DAC...thanks folks
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Has any one determined how customizable the hdr tone mapping features are on the Pio? I’m trying to determine if I buy the Panny 9000 with configurable tone mapping or the Pio...2 channel music playback is also very important to me and I understand the Pio is very good because of its DAC...thanks folks
I posted that question a few times in this thread, and never got an answer. I think it has a fixed HDR-SDR conversion. Nothing like the Panasonic's. The 2 channel output on the 9000 is suppose to be really good as well.
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I posted that question a few times in this thread, and never got an answer. I think it has a fixed HDR-SDR conversion. Nothing like the Panasonic's. The 2 channel output on the 9000 is suppose to be really good as well.
Thanks, I’m a little bit surprised we are having a hard time getting an answer on this...I “thought” I read somewhere that altho the HDR settings are pre baked, they can be individually modified...
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What is the movie file format you will be storing after transcoding? If MKV, then u can forget about LX-500 as it won’t read MKV file container except for MP4. M2TS and TS are fine. A few other file based formats for video but not going to accept surround sound formats hence I didn’t bring up.

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Dear all, I have upgraded from the LX 58 to the LX 500. With the firmware 1.12 the LX 500 now also better supports MKV with multi-channel audio (1.08 seemed to support stereo soundtracks only). Compared to the LX 58, which works flawlessly in this area, the LX 500 does still not support the Atmos sound track embedded in the container. DTS Master, etc all, all work fine. Furthermore it is noted that the chapter selection seems not be available.

I stream MKV over LAN with a Synology NAS.
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So I’m trying to decide between the LX 500 and the Panasonic ub9000

Is everyone happy with the pioneer just trying to shed some light on the main differences.


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So I’m trying to decide between the LX 500 and the Panasonic ub9000

Is everyone happy with the pioneer just trying to shed some light on the main differences.


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Way better tone mapping capability on the 9000.

Better variety of disc media support on the 500. From reading this thread, a lot of unreliability on layer change on 100GB discs.
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Hi thisisgroot,
Depends on what discs you want the player to play.
Mine (LX500) plays SACDs and DVD-As perfectly (which the 9000 cannot, period!!!!) as well as every Blu ray movie and concert I have played on it, perfectly. Can't speak to play back problems as I have none yet.
Music is awesome, don't think it would be as good on the 9000 but have not heard it.
I do have some Bruckner concert blu rays that have awesome music on them, but have a video glitch which drove me crazy on the OPPO 95 I used before. The glitch is still there, BARELY shows up and then is taken care of, gone in a split second on my Pioneer. Don't know how it is doing that, correcting them but I LOVE IT!!!!!
So, depends on what you need, if video interest only and you know that, you may want to get the Panny. But for music and movies do not hesitate on the Pioneer, it is a CLEAR WINNER in my home theater!!!!!!
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Thanks to both of you for your comments but yes I don’t mind listening to music on it as well but the main thing I’m going to be playing his
4K UHD DISCS. It’s set up in the theatre room

Are you saying that they would look better on the Panasonic?

Currently have a cheap Samsung 4K player so I’m hoping this makes a big difference




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Thanks to both of you for your comments but yes I don’t mind listening to music on it as well but the main thing I’m going to be playing his
4K UHD DISCS. It’s set up in the theatre room

Are you saying that they would look better on the Panasonic?

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I believe yes on better on the panasonic, and yes way better than a samsung.
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Thanks to both of you for your comments but yes I don’t mind listening to music on it as well but the main thing I’m going to be playing his
4K UHD DISCS. It’s set up in the theatre room

Are you saying that they would look better on the Panasonic?

Currently have a cheap Samsung 4K player so I’m hoping this makes a big difference




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Or do it like me, get a Panny UB-420 and the LX-500.


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I’m going to get the pioneer but I’m
Sure will be better then my first gen Samsung uhd player

Is there proof anywhere that Panasonic is better for picture quality ?

What has throughts been here with uhd playback?


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I really like Panasonic as a brand but I will probably end up getting the Pioneer because of the fan that Panasonic added to both the UB820 and UB9000. I'm sensitive to fan noise (especially tiny high speed fans) and I also have read that the LX500's optical drive is quieter than that in the UB9000. In addition, the fan will probably get louder over time and imagine what will happen if the fan starts to fail.
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