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I wonder of any of the playability issues frequently mentioned here have cleared up with the latest firmware update?

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After upgrading to the new firmware, I watched my first UHD yesterday evening: "Us" (USA Edition), which according to bluray.com, it is a 100gb disc. It played flawlessly from beginning to end.
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LX800 experience

Pioneer is doing "animal testing" instead of testing players by their own specialists. Their players were not ready to go to the market. Firmware especially. Playing SACD multichannel - plays only two channel and displaying PCM multi. After switching transport, direct and back playing fine. Maybe bad communication with preamp. Annoying but solvable.
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Watched my second 100gb UHD after the new firmware upgrade. It played fine with no pauses, freezes or audiodrops.
I have played some Sacds and those which are multichannel played in dsd 5.1.
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By the way, it was "Mortal engines".
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I almost did not put Mortal Engines in my Netflix queue due to the poor reviews, but I am glad I did. I thought it was very entertaining and a decent plot too.
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Can this player play M2TS files with Atmos/DTS;X audio off a usb drive? I was looking at the manual and it looks like it doesn't play M2TS files but I want to be sure.
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I dont think theres any player nowadays playing BDMV folders. It was in the early days, old firmwares, but now ISO and BDMV files are forbidden to play.
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Watched "Alita, Battle Angel 4K" tonight all the way through no problems at all. Could have wished the movie lived up to the hype a little better, but all in all it was somewhat entertaining.
Like some above, I almost missed "Mortal Engines" because of the bad reviews, but glad I watched it.
Both of the above were better than a chopstick in the eye!!!!!
Am hoping the new FW did the trick, as so far it seems to have.
No problems so far.
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Latest firmware updated & Mission Impossible Fallout 4K freezes at 138:05...damn. Don't know if its faulty disc or this machine. Blade Runner 2049 4K did same thing. Nordic releases was those.
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Mission Impossible Fallout played great at that time stamp for me.
But it is not a Nordic disc, and it is warm here in Thailand. Might be the difference in discs or with your player.
Did you clean the disc and try it again? I mean, you must have but just checking, trying to help.
Hope you get it sorted out, hope this FW update did the trick for us all.
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I didn't clean the discs because i don't believe it matters when discs is brand new & looks clean. But when i restarted player it played fine. This time i jumped straight to next scene & rewind back to 1:38:05. Same thing to Blade Runner & it works. I think restarting player is the key, power off / power on.
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Watched Alita UHD French edition with no issue. Third disc in a row with no problems at all. Has the new firmware really fixed most of if not all UHD playability issues? Fingers crossed.
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Just finished "Black hawk down",a 100gb UHD I know some people have had problems with. I watched the extended cut and it was the USA edition. I had three very brief audio drops or what it sounded more like jumps for me at around minutes 35, 95 and 128, also the audio was not synchronized with the image for the last hour or so. Fortunately, the audio drops were very subtle among the miasma of bullets and shots and there were no pauses or freezes.
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Watched the first of the John Wick shoot-em-ups tonight, in 4K. Picture and Sound were stellar, superb!!!!
But I did see a small hitch/pause as it changed layers, something I am VERY used to. That was all though.
Well enjoyed seeing the movie again, it has been a while and definitely worth the double dip to get it and watch it in 4K.
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Is anyone maintaining a list of potential problem discs or should I just dig through the thread? Happy to test those I have on hand.

JVB tested the LX500 I returned and it definitely has sync issues not revealed in their usual test bench; they tried different cables as well as running it through a receiver (and an OPPO 203) and they experienced the same problems I did. After comparing it to another Pioneer and finding no issues with that one, I opted for a replacement.

Anybody looking for a region free player should definitely consider JVB. Their support through the whole experience was top notch and they sent the replacement overnight at no additional cost so I'd receive it before the weekend.
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Watched the first of the John Wick shoot-em-ups tonight, in 4K. Picture and Sound were stellar, superb!!!!
But I did see a small hitch/pause as it changed layers, something I am VERY used to. That was all though.
Well enjoyed seeing the movie again, it has been a while and definitely worth the double dip to get it and watch it in 4K.
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Did you replace the power supply in your unit? If yes, any sound improvement?

In case you did not change it, did you hear somebody to talk about this?

I am wondering if this replacement could add value (sound/image/both) to the LX 500/800 unit. I saw a few power supply offers for LX 500/800.

I want to change my player and I keep an eye on LX800.


Thanks.
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Hey thirdkind, very glad to hear you were treated well, professionally and fairly and that you are getting a replacement player. I hope it serves you well.
Hey Mike RO, NO, I did not change the power supply in my LX500. And I HIGHLY doubt, but don't know for sure, that such a move is warranted at all. I mean the guys who make these players are smarter than I am and if they think the PS is good for this player, then I reckon they would know. I do understand these companies make equip. to a price point, but the price point of both the LX500 and LX800 is quite high enough. IF they needed a better PS I figure it would be in there. Especially so the 800.
But what do I know?
If you get one, and I totally recommend you do, and IF you get it upgraded (which I would not do until you get it, play with it, check it out and see what you think of the stock machine and then upgrade it only if you find it lacking in some way) then let us know.
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Did you replace the power supply in your unit? If yes, any sound improvement?

In case you did not change it, did you hear somebody to talk about this?

I am wondering if this replacement could add value (sound/image/both) to the LX 500/800 unit. I saw a few power supply offers for LX 500/800.

I want to change my player and I keep an eye on LX800.


Thanks.
I wouldn't change the power supply. From pictures it looks like the LX500 uses a switch mode power supply. Nothing wrong with that. They are much more energy efficient, producing much less heat. A linear power supply will produce more heat that has to be dissipated into an area that was not designed to dissipate that extra heat, leading to possibly lower lifetimes for your components, particularly electrolytic caps. Most of you in this thread like the quietness of the player not having a fan. There is a reason it doesn't have a fan, it does't need one to dissipate the little heat produced. Change to a linear power supply and you've messed up that energy balance.

We had this same discussion in the Oppo-203 thread. My advice there was leave well enough alone. My 203 has a switch mode power supply and sounds great, I have a 95 with a linear power supply and toroidal transformer, it sounds great too, and has a fan to rid itself of the extra heat.
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Hey thirdkind, very glad to hear you were treated well, professionally and fairly and that you are getting a replacement player. I hope it serves you well.
Hey Mike RO, NO, I did not change the power supply in my LX500. And I HIGHLY doubt, but don't know for sure, that such a move is warranted at all. I mean the guys who make these players are smarter than I am and if they think the PS is good for this player, then I reckon they would know. I do understand these companies make equip. to a price point, but the price point of both the LX500 and LX800 is quite high enough. IF they needed a better PS I figure it would be in there. Especially so the 800.
But what do I know?
If you get one, and I totally recommend you do, and IF you get it upgraded (which I would not do until you get it, play with it, check it out and see what you think of the stock machine and then upgrade it only if you find it lacking in some way) then let us know.
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Yes, indeed. I will listen/watch a lot of content before to decide if I change the power supply or not. Hope to be satisfied with factory electronic parts. I assume too that at this price LX 800 is a great unit.
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Watched "Aquaman" uhd yesterday evening(I think it is a 100gb disc) and NO pauses, freezes or audio drops. It played flawlessly .
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Just watched "Valerian, City of a Thousand Planets" which was stunning.
No pauses, no hang ups, not a problem, SWEET!!!!
My movie viewing experience has taken a HUGE boost in quality with this Pio player and OLED tv. And the sound is to die for.
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I wouldn't change the power supply. From pictures it looks like the LX500 uses a switch mode power supply. Nothing wrong with that. They are much more energy efficient, producing much less heat. A linear power supply will produce more heat that has to be dissipated into an area that was not designed to dissipate that extra heat, leading to possibly lower lifetimes for your components, particularly electrolytic caps. Most of you in this thread like the quietness of the player not having a fan. There is a reason it doesn't have a fan, it does't need one to dissipate the little heat produced. Change to a linear power supply and you've messed up that energy balance.

We had this same discussion in the Oppo-203 thread. My advice there was leave well enough alone. My 203 has a switch mode power supply and sounds great, I have a 95 with a linear power supply and toroidal transformer, it sounds great too, and has a fan to rid itself of the extra heat.
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Indeed there is a risk with replacements. No need for fan, maybe due to enough space inside. I know 3 companies which offer tuning, one only power supply and the other 2 extended tuning - power supply, upgraded clock, tubes...No fan at all. The last two will send an invoice which is more than double compared to stock unit. I do not know if you change the ticket <<very good unit>> with <<fantastic one>>.
I agree, warranty issue. Well, a risk assumed again.
In my situation, I am going to buy LX800 and to listen intensively. After that, I will speak with an engineer (specialized in building amplifiers on tubes) to find out if it’s a good idea to replace the power supply. I will come back with details. Thanks.
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Just finished "Black hawk down",a 100gb UHD I know some people have had problems with. I watched the extended cut and it was the USA edition. I had three very brief audio drops or what it sounded more like jumps for me at around minutes 35, 95 and 128, also the audio was not synchronized with the image for the last hour or so. Fortunately, the audio drops were very subtle among the miasma of bullets and shots and there were no pauses or freezes.
Watched this last night as well - picture quality amazing. I did notice some brief audio drops as well - George

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Just finished the 4K version of an old favorite of mine, "The Legend of Tarzan".
Another double dip, as I already owned the blu ray, but this is off the charts good.
SQ and PQ, writing, acting, story, all wonderful.
Not a hitch, hesitation, bobble nor pause in the movie, played perfectly.
I hope you are all getting flawless play now.
I am,
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I am really glad to hear about the improvements you guys have with your players. I really think the one I returned was somewhat of a dud as far as freezing and drop outs. As for the quality of the picture and sound it was exemplary. Even against my Panasonic ub9000,and in that respect I really miss it. With the continued good reports Iam strongly considering a repurchase in the not to distant future.
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Yesterday I watched Mary Poppins return and Pat Sematary and they played fine with no issues at all.
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Pioneer UDP-LX 500 / 800 Owners Thread (No Price Talk)

I had a freeze with Ready Player One (DV BD100 disc) which was my first freeze with the new firmware. I watched this originally on my Pioneer with the old firmware and don’t think I had any freezes.

It happened towards the end when the one character who transformed into a giant Samurai was running out of time and had to change back. I was doing a lot of pausing, FF, and RWD which sometimes does cause issues with players even though it shouldn’t so it could have been that.


I’ve also been rewatching a lot of movies after getting my 77” OLED TV and trying to compare between the Pioneer and my Panasonic and the Pioneer PQ for HDR is pretty close if not right there with the Panasonic and HDR Optimizer On which was a little surprising. I’m sure if I did a true A/B comparison I’d see some differences but hard to tell a difference switching back and forth.


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"Rise of the Planet of the Apes", the first one in the box set in 4K played flawlessly.
Perhaps it was not the smartest thing to double dip on this set, the sound was still in DTS 5.1, same as I remember on the normal blu ray.
So the SQ was not really improved, that I could hear anyway, but the PQ was some better. IF memory serves.
My family and I really like this series, so it was worth it for family theater night, to see it again with an even better picture.
Good news here, no problems playing this disc at all.
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