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See my post above but I am getting an audio format issue as attached on Dolby truhd and Atmos streamed.

The last firmware have to be download through Pioneer’s website and upgrade with an USB stick, they didn’t release it through network, it’s the 1.16 version

https://intl.pioneer-audiovisual.com.../downloads.php

But I can confirm you I’m experiencing the same problem with some movies whith the same error message.
Sometimes you can trick the system and play the movie with another audio track and then play the atmos file.

The other option is to encode the movie to m2ts format.
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The last firmware have to be download through Pioneer’s website and upgrade with an USB stick, they didn’t release it through network, it’s the 1.16 version

https://intl.pioneer-audiovisual.com.../downloads.php

But I can confirm you I’m experiencing the same problem with some movies whith the same error message.
Sometimes you can trick the system and play the movie with another audio track and then play the atmos file.

The other option is to encode the movie to m2ts format.
I was able to download via their network via Ethernet cable

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I was able to download via their network via Ethernet cable
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Me too ...

Ok, so Pioneer finally released it through network because it was not the case in December.
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Ok, so Pioneer finally released it through network because it was not the case in December.
I believe it was late December.

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Hello guys i want to buy Pioneer UDP-LX 500 for play .mkv fullhd and fulluhd archives it's a good option? Or its better another player? Please help owners!!
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Hello guys i want to buy Pioneer UDP-LX 500 for play .mkv fullhd and fulluhd archives it's a good option? Or its better another player? Please help owners!!
As an owner I wouldn’t recommend it for reasons I mentioned unless you solely plan on playing physical media.

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The LX500 is wonderful for playing my Full HD and music files from the USB. It does struggle with Full UHD playback so that's what I use my Shield for.

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Hi - I’ve been trying to set the lx500 to use source direct in the resolution options. But it doesn’t seem to hold this setting. It just uses the auto option. I am on the latest firmware - george

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Hi - I’ve been trying to set the lx500 to use source direct in the resolution options. But it doesn’t seem to hold this setting. It just uses the auto option. I am on the latest firmware - george
How often and when does it change? I'll see how mine behaves.

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Hi - I’ve been trying to set the lx500 to use source direct in the resolution options. But it doesn’t seem to hold this setting. It just uses the auto option. I am on the latest firmware - george
It may have something to do with CEC if you have it enabled.

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Thanks both - it happens when I change from auto to source direct every time. I’ll check CEC as sometimes the lx500 turns this option on - not 100% why - but it seems an interaction of the LG C9 and the lyngdorf. I need CEC on the C9 as I am using eARC for the onboard apps of the C9 for the lyngdorf- george

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Does anyone know how to get rid of the 'special function' icons (upper righthand corner of screen)??

For this episode (Star Trek TOS Blu-ray) the movie camera icon (different viewing angles) comes and goes during playback depending on the current content, but the other 2 stay on throughout the entire episode.

I tried every button on the remote, and looked thru the manual but could find nothing. Very distracting and annoying.
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Does anyone know how to get rid of the 'special function' icons (upper righthand corner of screen)??

For this episode (Star Trek TOS Blu-ray) the movie camera icon (different viewing angles) comes and goes during playback depending on the current content, but the other 2 stay on throughout the entire episode.

I tried every button on the remote, and looked thru the manual but could find nothing. Very distracting and annoying.
Check page 42 of the manual ... You need to go to the Initial Setup menu.

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Check page 42 of the manual ... You need to go to the Initial Setup menu.
Thanks! Those things were really distracting.

(Was on p.43 of my manual, under 'Playback').

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UBP-X700 AND UBP-X800M2 are also DVD-Audio and SACD fully compatible. I have both and they sound very good.
I believe Sony omitted DVD-Audio support with their first Dolby Vision capable X700 player for some odd reason.
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Hi all, I apologize for that but I've been looking to buy oppo 203 but unfortunately the price too expensive, my concern is I have DVD blu ray movies and some files are ripped to MKV in HDD external. So, my question does this model support media by HDD and support SRT subtitles as well as does oppo 203? if not, would you please recommend me media player as I said my movies contents Dolby vision and hdr10+ so there is not tv box that will support these Dolby vision double layer.
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I believe Sony omitted DVD-Audio support with their first Dolby Vision capable X700 player for some odd reason.
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Your "belief" is absolutely wrong. I don't post anything that can NOT be backed up. I did my homework on this player. That is called research of the features Sony claimed including DVD-Audio and SACD playback. To prove that point further I have five OPPOs , DV-981, DV-983, two BDP-83 and the BDP-103. ALL of them play both.
When I first got it CD, DTS CD, DVD-Audio and SACD were tested. Then I went to check SD DVD, BD DVD and finally 4K UHD discs. With the exception of 4K discs I tested the OPPOs BDP-83 and the BDP-103 the same way. I only have two DVD-Audio discs and are by two different artists, Diana Krall The Look of Love and Aaron Neville Nature Boy. I also have the same titles on SACD.
Just to prove my point I disconnected the UBP-X700 from the MBR. Then I had to disconnect the UBP-X800M2 from the Home Theater in order to once more verify that the Sony UBP-X700 indeed plays DVD-Audio discs. If that does not convince you, let it rip. Make sure you have documentation to back up your claims. That is called the court of public opinion: talk the talk and walk the walk, thank you.

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Hi all, I apologize for that but I've been looking to buy oppo 203 but unfortunately the price too expensive, my concern is I have DVD blu ray movies and some files are ripped to MKV in HDD external. So, my question does this model support media by HDD and support SRT subtitles as well as does oppo 203? if not, would you please recommend me media player as I said my movies contents Dolby vision and hdr10+ so there is not tv box that will support these Dolby vision double layer.
WHY don't you check the OPPO UDP-203 thread? That is the norm.
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WHY don't you check the OPPO UDP-203 thread? That is the norm.
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Thank you for your reply but as I said the oppo 203 player too much price for buy. That's why I am wondering if this player will be find my needs.
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Your "belief" is absolutely wrong. I don't post anything that can NOT be backed up. I did my homework on this player. That is called research of the features Sony claimed including DVD-Audio and SACD playback. To prove that point further I have five OPPOs , DV-981, DV-983, two BDP-83 and the BDP-103. ALL of them play both.
When I first got it CD, DTS CD, DVD-Audio and SACD were tested. Then I went to check SD DVD, BD DVD and finally 4K UHD discs. With the exception of 4K discs I tested the OPPOs BDP-83 and the BDP-103 the same way. I only have two DVD-Audio discs and are by two different artists, Diana Krall The Look of Love and Aaron Neville Nature Boy. I also have the same titles on SACD.
Just to prove my point I disconnected the UBP-X700 from the MBR. Then I had to disconnect the UBP-X800M2 from the Home Theater in order to once more verify that the Sony UBP-X700 indeed plays DVD-Audio discs. If that does not convince you, let it rip. Make sure you have documentation to back up your claims. That is called the court of public opinion: talk the talk and walk the walk, thank you.
Right, there is absolutely no need to bite my head off, I was simply going off by these "Incorrect" reviews here https://www.avforums.com/reviews/son...0-review.14942 & here https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/sony-ubp-x700 an excerpt form the AV Forums review "In order to reach a lower price point Sony has dropped some features from the X700, so there's no support for Hi-Res Audio and DSEE-HX upscaling and no DVD-Audio disc playback either. While the loss of Hi-Res Audio is a shame, the lack of DVD-Audio isn't really a big deal and the player still supports the more popular SACD disc format. In terms of other disc formats the X700 is fairly comprehensive, with support for 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray, along with CD, DVD, Blu-ray and 3D Blu-ray."

Certainly do not appreciate your tone but I stand corrected thank you once again
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Your "belief" is absolutely wrong. I don't post anything that can NOT be backed up. I did my homework on this player. That is called research of the features Sony claimed including DVD-Audio and SACD playback. To prove that point further I have five OPPOs , DV-981, DV-983, two BDP-83 and the BDP-103. ALL of them play both.
When I first got it CD, DTS CD, DVD-Audio and SACD were tested. Then I went to check SD DVD, BD DVD and finally 4K UHD discs. With the exception of 4K discs I tested the OPPOs BDP-83 and the BDP-103 the same way. I only have two DVD-Audio discs and are by two different artists, Diana Krall The Look of Love and Aaron Neville Nature Boy. I also have the same titles on SACD.
Just to prove my point I disconnected the UBP-X700 from the MBR. Then I had to disconnect the UBP-X800M2 from the Home Theater in order to once more verify that the Sony UBP-X700 indeed plays DVD-Audio discs. If that does not convince you, let it rip. Make sure you have documentation to back up your claims. That is called the court of public opinion: talk the talk and walk the walk, thank you.
Are you sure the two DVD audio discs don't have the audio in the video-ts folder, making them compatible for normal DVD players? From Sony's site in their full specs for the x700, the list of compatible disc formats:

BD-RE, BD-RE Dual Layer, BD-ROM, CD (CD-DA), CD-R/-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Double Layer, DVD+RW, DVD-R, DVD-R Dual Layer, DVD-RW, DVD-Video, SA-CD (SA-CD / CD) Playback, Stereoscopic 3D (profile 5), Ultra HD Blu-ray™

From the amazon site for the Look of Love DVD:

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This is a DVD-Audio disc which is playable on most DVD players as well as all DVD-Audio players. Click here for additional information regarding compatibility.
The Aaron Neville DVD-Audio disc has the same statement on amazon.

They very well could have authored the disc in the ts-video folder with no video or a blank frame thus rendering it compatible for almost all dvd-players. Their statement about the disc seems to indicate that. This review seems to indicate there may be some video content on the disc indicating they used the video-ts folder.

http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews...ws.asp?ID=5169

From wikipedia on player compatibility:

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With the introduction of the DVD-Audio format, some kind of backward compatibility with existing DVD-Video players was desired, although not required. To address this, most DVD-Audio discs also contain DVD-Video compatible data to play the standard DVD-Video Dolby Digital 5.1-channel audio track on the disc[8] (which can be downmixed to two channels for listeners with no surround sound setup).
You apparently have a couple of discs specifically authored to be backward compatible with DVD players. Sony indeed did drop pure DVD-A disc formats from the X-700, but some discs authored for normal DVD players will play.

I agree with oniiz there was no reason to bite his head off. He was reporting what's widely reported in the x700 thread and by Sony.
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Right, there is absolutely no need to bite my head off, I was simply going off by these "Incorrect" reviews here https://www.avforums.com/reviews/son...0-review.14942 & here https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/sony-ubp-x700 an excerpt form the AV Forums review "In order to reach a lower price point Sony has dropped some features from the X700, so there's no support for Hi-Res Audio and DSEE-HX upscaling and no DVD-Audio disc playback either. While the loss of Hi-Res Audio is a shame, the lack of DVD-Audio isn't really a big deal and the player still supports the more popular SACD disc format. In terms of other disc formats the X700 is fairly comprehensive, with support for 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray, along with CD, DVD, Blu-ray and 3D Blu-ray."

Certainly do not appreciate your tone but I stand corrected thank you once again
I don't think you need to be corrected, I think you were right in the first place.
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Thanks. I’m sure they're also looking at the potential market for a $1K player when the pandemic lets up. They can’t be too optimistic looking at that scenario.
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No they can't be too optimistic about the market. .
So then there's next to no chance to buy an LX500? Ditto for the the LX800 at twice the price?

Frankly, I can't believe this. Pioneer, like all high end A/V brands, knows that despite what we all face from this pandemic, many from this community will have the funds and the desire to purchase hardware like this. In fact, as one member here exclaimed owning the LX500 has been a real joy while being forced to live shuttered out of harm's way.

Furthermore, it's largely the USA that's been hit with COVID-19; casualties in many other nations are far lower. And even if the US is perhaps Pioneer's main market target for its high A/V gear can over global demand be suffering enough to kill off the LX500?

In the end, I could see where LX800 sales would be badly jeopardized but Pioneer should re-think any ideas of killing the LX500, except to replace it with something better. BUT please, please keep its ADVANCED zoom controls!! None of today's hardware based players have them! Some don't even have any zoom controls.
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Furthermore, it's largely the USA that's been hit with COVID-19; casualties in many other nations are far lower.

Not true. Though NY has been hit hard, there are many nation's with higher per capita death rates. And you also should consider that we are more thorough in capturing and reporting incidents than many other governments.

I do agree though that Pioneer should get their players back in the market soon. I like my LX500 so much, I am seriously considering upgrading to the LX800 if it becomes available.

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Hi - I’ve been trying to set the lx500 to use source direct in the resolution options. But it doesn’t seem to hold this setting. It just uses the auto option. I am on the latest firmware - george
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Thanks both - it happens when I change from auto to source direct every time. I’ll check CEC as sometimes the lx500 turns this option on - not 100% why - but it seems an interaction of the LG C9 and the lyngdorf. I need CEC on the C9 as I am using eARC for the onboard apps of the C9 for the lyngdorf- george
I'm not expert on these matters like many of you here, but at least one of these reviews seemed to imply that the LX500’s DVD and/or 1080p upscaling is good but less than excellent.
https://www.stereo.net.au/reviews/re...blu-ray-player
https://www.whathifi.com/us/reviews/pioneer-udp-lx500
https://www.soundandvision.com/categ...player-reviews

Like my Oppo 95, this player has Source Direct, which-when enabled-will pass the unprocessed video onto the latest Sony OLED’s processor, which will likely do a much better upscaling job. I hope to find an LX500 for sale, but please don’t tell me that it currently has some bug preventing it from cleanly handing over upscaling duties to the OLED-and that there’s still no firmware to correct any such glitch.

My DVD and BD collection will not be amused.
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I do agree though that Pioneer should get their players back in the market soon. I like my LX500 so much, I am seriously considering upgrading to the LX800 if it becomes available.
Indeed, Pioneer’s financial health and managerial and marketing skills are what’s troubling me. First, they sold most of their business to Onkyo, however wise or necessary that may have been. Now that combine is at least in some way overseen by a Harman like goliath, however benevolently.https://www.soundunited.com/

As LX500 owners, our biggest concern is probably how long will critical replacement parts be available. I could fill a whole webpage here of what I went through at the hands of Cambridge Audio’s “support” team and those geniuses who Cambridge had me ship my 650BD player to when its reading failures of immaculate discs became intolerable. https://www.panurgyoem.com/ ~ $300. wasted on transport replacement, shipping and then within a month being left with a brick when they surmised that the problem was instead a decoder board, but which had since been permanently available for several months.

Admittedly, that player was nine years old, and the CE industry has mostly pardoned itself for not stocking parts after about seven years. But the LX500 is already at least two years old, and as Pioneer’s market share seems to be dwindling how long might it even be around to warehouse any discontinued NOS parts?

I just don’t want to be left with another handsome looking doorstop in a few years. Little doubt why only Sony, Philips and Panasonic are about the only BD player brands left; they’ve got enough real estate to store parts, and none of their players are over $1K.
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Indeed, Pioneer’s financial health and managerial and marketing skills are what’s troubling me. First, they sold most of their business to Onkyo, however wise or necessary that may have been. Now that combine is at least in some way overseen by a Harman like goliath, however benevolently.https://www.soundunited.com/

As LX500 owners, our biggest concern is probably how long will critical replacement parts be available. I could fill a whole webpage here of what I went through at the hands of Cambridge Audio’s “support” team and those geniuses who Cambridge had me ship my 650BD player to when its reading failures of immaculate discs became intolerable. https://www.panurgyoem.com/ ~ $300. wasted on transport replacement, shipping and then within a month being left with a brick when they surmised that the problem was instead a decoder board, but which had since been permanently available for several months.

Admittedly, that player was nine years old, and the CE industry has mostly pardoned itself for not stocking parts after about seven years. But the LX500 is already at least two years old, and as Pioneer’s market share seems to be dwindling how long might it even be around to warehouse any discontinued NOS parts?

I just don’t want to be left with another handsome looking doorstop in a few years. Little doubt why only Sony, Philips and Panasonic are about the only BD player brands left; they’ve got enough real estate to store parts, and none of their players are over $1K.
I thought talks between Pioneer/Onkyo and Soundunited were over with, and no deal was reached?
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I thought talks between Pioneer/Onkyo and Soundunited were over with, and no deal was reached?
Most likely a deal between them happened, otherwise their partnership would have ended. But who knows how it will effect LX500/800 owners down the road.
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Most likely a deal between them happened, otherwise their partnership would have ended. But who knows how it will effect LX500/800 owners down the road.
What partnership? The deal never went through....
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