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I'm pretty sure only the Oppo's and the Cambridge CXUHD (w/soon to be released firmware update) have the zoom features.
How does the new Oppo FW change/add to the zoom/AR control that has already been implemented in the Oppo 203 long ago?
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How does the new Oppo FW change/add to the zoom/AR control that has already been implemented in the Oppo 203 long ago?
The upcoming firmware release for the Cambridge CXUHD will add the 21/9 zoom modes that the Oppo 203&205 already have. (21/9 modes added to the Oppo's on a previous firmware update) Both the Oppo's and the Cambridge units had zoom modes with their original designs.

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Ok, didn’t know the Cambridge lacked this feature.

‘If the 9000 had an HDMI input as well as zoom/AR modes, it would be the perfect player. Still enjoy mine, but keep my 103 and 203 in the rack as well due to these omissions on the 9000.
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Ok, didn’t know the Cambridge lacked this feature.
I edited my answer to be more accurate. The Cambridge units had the same zoom modes as the Oppo's by original design, it's just the 21/9 modes that were added later.

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Ok, didn’t know the Cambridge lacked this feature.

‘If the 9000 had an HDMI input as well as zoom/AR modes, it would be the perfect player. Still enjoy mine, but keep my 103 and 203 in the rack as well due to these omissions on the 9000.
I agree, but I doubt they will add zoom modes. Maybe they will have an HDMI input on whatever the next models end up being. Don't forget the Panasonic's don't so SACD or DVD-Audio, and the Oppo & Cambridge models excel at file sharing.

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Does this player support ZOOM or ASPECT RATIO CONTROL yet w/ most recent firmware?

With latest firmware how does it compare in DVD upconversion vs. Oppo 203?
We are all hoping for a FW update that will add Zoom/Aspect Ratio options to the UB9000. The absence of those, as well as a screen saver function when playback is in pause, are glaring deficiencies that really need to be addressed.

The news is much better with respect to up-conversion of older DVD's. Last night we watched an old DVD of Star Wars Episode 4, A New Hope. The UB9000 up-converted the video all the way to 4K beautifully. It was like seeing the film for the first time, which was true in many respects.

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We are all hoping for a FW update that will add Zoom/Aspect Ratio options to the UB9000. The absence of those, as well as a screen saver function when playback is in pause, are glaring deficiencies that really need to be addressed.

The news is much better with respect to up-conversion of older DVD's. Last night we watched an old DVD of Star Wars Episode 4, A New Hope. The UB9000 up-converted the video all the way to 4K beautifully. It was like seeing the film for the first time, which was true in many respects.

Is the processing chip in the Panasonic's even capable of aspect ratio&zoom manipulation? And there's no zoom button on the remotes, so how would you even easily access these features if added?

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Is the processing chip in the Panasonic's even capable of aspect ratio&zoom manipulation? And there's no zoom button on the remotes, so how would you even easily access these features if added?
The UB9000 uses Panasonic's HCX Gen2 processor. I could be wrong, but I can't imagine any contemporary processor not supporting these functions. The Zoom/AR options could be implemented via the OPTION button along with the UP/Down and L/R buttons, similar to many other options.

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1) Has anyone run into this and what did you do to fix it? My player is outputting SDR instead of HDR here and there. I never know what I'm going to get when I turn the system on. I'd say it's about 75% HDR and 25% SDR. It's at random. It's intermittent. And it happens on the same HDR discs. So one try you'll get SDR and another try, on the same disc, and I'll get HDR. I'm pretty sure I know the answer to the problem but I want to see what everyone says about it. I'm Connected to an Arcam AVR850 and JVC NX7.

2) Is it better to turn things on in a particular order, to avoid the SDR/HDR problem I'm having? For example, projector first, wait a minute, receiver, wait a minute, then the 9000? That way the player can see what it's connected to when it boots up.
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I have my Pronto remote wait 30 seconds from the time it turns my NX7 on till it turns on my CX-A5200. As for the UB9000, I don't have a programmed delay. Since my remote doesn't immediately power up a source device (waits for me to tell it which one), the delay is kinda random depending on me. I haven't noticed HDR movies being presented as SDR, but then I haven't paid a great deal of attention either.

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1) Has anyone run into this and what did you do to fix it? My player is outputting SDR instead of HDR here and there. I never know what I'm going to get when I turn the system on. I'd say it's about 75% HDR and 25% SDR. It's at random. It's intermittent. And it happens on the same HDR discs. So one try you'll get SDR and another try, on the same disc, and I'll get HDR. I'm pretty sure I know the answer to the problem but I want to see what everyone says about it. I'm Connected to an Arcam AVR850 and JVC NX7.

2) Is it better to turn things on in a particular order, to avoid the SDR/HDR problem I'm having? For example, projector first, wait a minute, receiver, wait a minute, then the 9000? That way the player can see what it's connected to when it boots up.
I have it happen all the time but I can't figure how to stop it. I tried putting startup delays on the harmony but they don't seem to work, eg I hear the player start too early.
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There was quite a few posts early about pausing and then playing or pausing/rewinding and then playing leading to skipping/artifacts and lip sync issues. Has there been any update on this from Panasonic or a fix?

I don’t usually pause my movies but it happens. I noticed it for the first time on Black Hawk Down. Took the disc out and put back in and worked fine when I skipped ahead to the same scene. Hopefully Panasonic is taking notice.
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[QUOTE=surroundsound99;58225032]1) My player is outputting SDR instead or HDR here and there...

And therefore I'm not getting Auto Tone Mapping to engage on the JVC NX7 projector!! Which I forgot to say but it's one of the top reasons I bought the NX7 instead of a Sony! Yes, I know the Panny's HDR Optimizer will still engage on a plain HDR signal, but even then I don't have the option of double-tone-mapping via the projector. And when SDR is being output there's no Tone Mapping at all.

It's probably HDMI handshake issues. I moved the NX7 next to the 9000 last night and voila, out of 10 different HDR discs I only had one failure to get HDR10 output, (one a 1m carbon) this is down from a 75/25 failure rate with a 50' fiber/hdmi adapter cable. And that one failure came after shutting the system down and booting up again. So that's why I think I have to turn the Panny on last in the chain. I'm still testing. I'll let you know.

For a lesson in why Tone Mapping is important, read Kris Deering's review of the Panasonic DP-UB820: https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...-player-review
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I have my Pronto remote wait 30 seconds from the time it turns my NX7 on till it turns on my CX-A5200. As for the UB9000, I don't have a programmed delay. Since my remote doesn't immediately power up a source device (waits for me to tell it which one), the delay is kinda random depending on me. I haven't noticed HDR movies being presented as SDR, but then I haven't paid a great deal of attention either.
Thanks for the info! If your player is outputting SDR then the HDR Optimizer in your player is not being engaged. I'll bet you notice a difference in picture quality with the Optimizer engaged. Press the Video Settings button on the remote, look at the HDMI info line, and you'll see if your player is outputting HDR10, HDR, or SDR.
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And another thing... IMAX: A Beautiful Planet is HDR10+, therefore either the Panny or the NX7 is rejecting the HDR10+ signal and SDR is being presented instead. Is there a way to down-rez it to HDR10 or HDR instead, in either the player's settings or the projector's settings?
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I keep thinking of things... When I come back to a disc later, and it asks me if I want to resume the movie, and I say no, what I noticed is when it cycles through the startup sequences (Universal logo and music intro, MPAA warning, etc), the video cuts in and out pretty bad, like the first 4-5 seconds of the Universal/Warner/Any studio's intro do not display. Other things flash on the screen for a half-a-second like the disc menu. Once the movie starts over again, all seems fine though.
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Thanks for the info! If your player is outputting SDR then the HDR Optimizer in your player is not being engaged. I'll bet you notice a difference in picture quality with the Optimizer engaged. Press the Video Settings button on the remote, look at the HDMI info line, and you'll see if your player is outputting HDR10, HDR, or SDR.
My player is outputting HDR (seen that on the projector's display when video starts), though I'm not sure you you are differentiating between HDR10 and just HDR. What other HDR are you referring to?

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My player is outputting HDR (seen that on the projector's display when video starts), though I'm not sure you you are differentiating between HDR10 and just HDR. What other HDR are you referring to?
Do you mean where I was talking about the HDR Optimizer?
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Do you mean where I was talking about the HDR Optimizer?
Not sure. I quoted what you had posted...you tell me...

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Not sure. I quoted what you had posted...you tell me...
The HDR Optimizer isn't another type of HDR. It's a setting in the player which does tone mapping. You can set it in the Video Settings screen (p.28 of the manual or press Video Settings on the remote.) On the first line you should see "Optimum HDR Adjustment." Set that to Yes and the player will perform tone mapping. Otherwise if it says something like "Projector Type" (can't remember exactly), then you're not getting or playing an HDR disc capable of being tone mapped.
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The HDR Optimizer isn't another type of HDR. It's a setting in the player which does tone mapping. You can set it in the Video Settings screen (p.28 of the manual or press Video Settings on the remote.) On the first line you should see "Optimum HDR Adjustment." Set that to Yes and the player will perform tone mapping. Otherwise if it says something like "Projector Type" (can't remember exactly), then you're not getting or playing an HDR disc capable of being tone mapped.
Ok, I get that. I was confused due to you mentioning HDR10 and HDR as being two separate things is all. This was were you said:

"see if your player is outputting HDR10, HDR, or SDR"

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Ok, I get that. I was confused due to you mentioning HDR10 and HDR as being two separate things is all. This was were you said:

"see if your player is outputting HDR10, HDR, or SDR"
Oh I see. Yeah I have seen my projector say HDR10 and sometimes just HDR. Also JVC support said the the NX7 will not tone map an HDR signal, only an HDR10 signal. So that's why I was differentiating between the two. Maybe the guy from JVC was wrong. But I've definitely seen the projector display both. I'll try to remember to take pictures and post them here.
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Hi, I posted this in the Anticipation Thread too. Robert at Value Electronics loaned a UB9000 for review to Spare Change. The reviewer mentions that when pausing and using slow motion that it wouldn't work in reverse. Also, when leaving Netflix it would go to a blank screen rather than the Home Menu. Also, if the film was paused and then started the sound was gone. Restarts fixed the problems (and it could be traced to his cable, I suppose). Anyone notice this on their units or could test theirs to see if this is common or an aberration on his test unit?
Has anyone had any luck or find a fix for this? Has Panasonic taken notice? I recently played Black Hawk Down and paused just to have issues and glitches until I pulled the disc out and placed back in.

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Just curious for the High Clarity since it is on by default, is it best to keep it on or turn it off?

I prefer not to have the sound manipulated if that is what it is doing to perverse the original.
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Just curious for the High Clarity since it is on by default, is it best to keep it on or turn it off?

I prefer not to have the sound manipulated if that is what it is doing to perverse the original.
I just use it as when you enable it, it turns off the front display in playback, making it ink black.
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And another thing... IMAX: A Beautiful Planet is HDR10+, therefore either the Panny or the NX7 is rejecting the HDR10+ signal and SDR is being presented instead. Is there a way to down-rez it to HDR10 or HDR instead, in either the player's settings or the projector's settings?
Not familiar with that issue but if using a projector there is no reason to have HDR10+ or Dolby Vision turned on in the players menu as the NX7 is not capable of displaying either one.

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Hello,
is anyone else having trouble playing 4k from Netflix? Connecting the player directly to the TV works, however going through my Marantz receiver it only outputs 1080 (Blu-rays, Prime and Youtube all work just fine).

I double checked and I have the latest firmware.

Things I have tried:
1. Restore factory settings.
2. Change 4k to 4:2:0 and 4:2:2

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is anyone else having trouble playing 4k from Netflix? Connecting the player directly to the TV works, however going through my Marantz receiver it only outputs 1080 (Blu-rays, Prime and Youtube all work just fine).

I double checked and I have the latest firmware.

Things I have tried:
1. Restore factory settings.
2. Change 4k to 4:2:0 and 4:2:2

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Its probably your Marantz avr not have 4K passthrough? If you want best video quality, its just best just to connect directly to TV and run separate audio cable from panny player to your AVR just for sound.

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Its probably your Marantz avr not have 4K passthrough? If you want best video quality, its just best just to connect directly to TV and run separate audio cable from panny player to your AVR just for sound.
The Marantz (SR8012) works fine with Amazon and Youtube, as well as playing 4k discs, it's just netflix I am having trouble with.
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Pardon me and don't mind me asking, can it connect to NAS and play mkv, ISO files with successful sound format such as Atmos from NAS?
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