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As a front-projection user, I haven't really felt any need to upgrade my UHD player as generations have progressed. I would still be using a K8500 if I didn't swap with a buddy for his M8500 since he needed the dual-HDMI output for audio-out to an older AVR. I haven't felt any need to upgrade for Dolby Vision, or HDR10+ since they're not supported in front-projection and not for improvements in the built-in streaming platforms since I utilize purpose-made streaming devices (NVidia Shield and other Android TV boxes). For UHD disc transport purposes, I'd likely be as well served by a K8500, a stripped-down Magnavox, or Oppo 203 and therefore have very little brand allegiance. I'd like to pick up a Sony X800 for its build quality and generally solid performance, but until I can get one cheap(er) used, I have no practical motivation to do so. I own a Samsung UHD player, it does its job as well as any other, but I won't really miss them in this market.

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So this is really all about Samsung not wanting to support Dolby Vision with the 4K UHD players so they just fold like that. Their players were never anything special, Panasonic, Sony, LG, Pioneer make better UHD disc players today. They will likely still make Blu-ray players only.


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Just before they release their higher-end flagship model... not cool...

Looks like we will have to "import" it from... Canada?

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So is Samsung quitting the Blu-ray player market, period?

Or are they just quitting selling them in the US market?

I am getting conflicting stories...

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So is Samsung quitting the Blu-ray player market, period?

Or are they just quitting selling them in the US market?

I am getting conflicting stories...
They are quitting the Bluray player market period. As long as Sony, LG , Panasonic and Pioneer still make them it's all good. Samsung players have always not been on par compared to higher end players anyways.

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They are quitting the Bluray player market period. As long as Sony, LG , Panasonic and Pioneer still make them it's all good. Samsung players have always not been on par compared to higher end players anyways.

And LG has...?

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And LG has...?
LG players are not high end. So no, in my opinion but they have been reliable from owner experiences.

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Samsung might be withdrawing from the 4K player market. Spooling up to be the first out with 8K players. They are, after all, the first out with 8K TV's. Why not be the first out with 8K players. Maybe? Just waiting for the spec's to be created and finalized? Short term monopoly $$$$?

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Samsung might be withdrawing from the 4K player market. Spooling up to be the first out with 8K players. They are, after all, the first out with 8K TV's. Why not be the first out with 8K players. Maybe? Just waiting for the spec's to be created and finalized? Short term monopoly $$$$?

Samsung was the first out with a Blu-ray player - and first out with a 4K Blu-ray player...

But somehow I doubt it...

There was talk of them releasing a reference grade 4K player this year - I assume that is now canned.

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Vincent has a vid up. Lack of 3D and DV...combined with lower quality image...and down they went. I know I would never buy a player that was not 3D. Why I have not bought a new tv...


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Well Best Buy is selling Panasonic 4K players in the US. So not sure what folks are talking about regarding Panasonic not in the US market.
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Well Best Buy is selling Panasonic 4K players in the US. So not sure what folks are talking about regarding Panasonic not in the US market.

We are talking about their TVs.

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"We are talking about their TVs."

Well its a thread about bluray players yes?
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Interesting that Samsung is pulling out
I bet they were the sales leader in disc players worldwide as well....
I paid a couple of hundred for my first 4K player 2years aho...after that I have bought refurbs(Sony and Samsung 4K ) for no more than $99

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In America you need to tell us what the next best thing as very overtly. "You only have DVD, I have DVD 2." "Woah, that must be better than DVD 1, I need that!"

Amazing. I genuinely believe if the makers of this content had followed that simple naming convention, neither Samsung nor Oppo would have left the market in this arena.
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How well did that logic work with Super VHS? The general public didn't bite.
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it should really put the nail in the coffin on HDR10+, just when studios start pumping out hdr10+ titles on disc

leaves only Panasonic, I believe, as only player that will play back hdr10+ content on disc. and very few TV's will support HDR10+

A bit confused. I thought Samsung is one of the leaders in UHD TV's and aren't their TV's HDR10+ supported?
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Yes, Samsung TVs from 2017 up? Will play HDR10+ and Panasonic's Ultra HD players will play every HDR format there is as well as their new OLEDs this year will also display all HDR formats.


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I believe what he was trying to say is that since Samsung has now quit making Blu-ray players - there is only Panasonic's Blu-ray players that will be able to play HDR10+ discs.

So unless your new Blu-ray player is a Panasonic - there will be no way to play HDR10+ discs on your new Samsung HDR10+ TV...
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DVD and to a degree Blu Ray had very fast takeup and machine launches. I wonder why some of the major home cinema companies have held off launching 4k player Yamaha, Onkyo Denon just for starters. Oppo withdrawing and now Samsung? Are Physical discs dead and now it's all streaming. Personally as an old git. I prefer the physical format LP, CD , DVD, Bluray. include Cassette and Reel2reel


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I believe what he was trying to say is that since Samsung has now quit making Blu-ray players - there is only Panasonic's Blu-ray players that will be able to play HDR10+ discs.

So unless your new Blu-ray player is a Panasonic - there will be no way to play HDR10+ discs on your new Samsung HDR10+ TV...
Unless you can still get the samsung m9500. Im sure they are still available, mine plays hdr10+ with my sammy q9fn

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Unless you can still get the samsung m9500. Im sure they are still available, mine plays hdr10+ with my sammy q9fn

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This year will be interesting for physical media. With Disney buying Fox (how that could go through antitrust measures is beyond me) and launching their own streaming service later this year, I won't be surprised if Disney will just ditch physical completely, or atleast make it more of a niche product for enthusiasts like laserdisc.
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This year will be interesting for physical media. With Disney buying Fox (how that could go through antitrust measures is beyond me) and launching their own streaming service later this year, I won't be surprised if Disney will just ditch physical completely, or atleast make it more of a niche product for enthusiasts like laserdisc.
It's possible but unlikely for awhile. Studios still make a lot of money on physical and companies care the most about the bottom line. I still refuse to buy any didgital movies, only rent or stream what's already included in Netflix, Prime, HBO, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. I will gladly pay $20-25 for a quality new UHD combo realease, would only rent a digital copy for $4-5 max.

Do the math.
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Peeps don't wanna pay $30 or more for a movie.
No need to. I have close to 250 UHD BD titles I've purchased over the last 37.5 months. My average cost per title is easily under $20. That is much less per disc than back between 2006 and 2009 when I bought over 600 BD and HD DVD titles.

the cost is much less now and the quality is much better than the first few years that BD titles were available.
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I'm sure you watch for deals. Any of those UHD's in the bargain bin at your local Walmart? Probably not. Amazon doesn't send emails when they have a 3 for 1 deal on sale so you would need to browse SlickDeals or the like. Most consumers don't and have no idea of those type of sales. Hence why UHD is way below the radar for 99.9999% of the market.
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No need to. I have close to 250 UHD BD titles I've purchased over the last 37.5 months. My average cost per title is easily under $20. That is much less per disc than back between 2006 and 2009 when I bought over 600 BD and HD DVD titles.

the cost is much less now and the quality is much better than the first few years that BD titles were available.
I never bought anywhere near that many disc in my lifetime. Just not much i like to see as it is.

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With Samsung being out of bluray discs. Does this mean players will only be for high end market?

Disc is clearly better than streaming


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@thisisgroot Nope, you'll still have Sony and LG both for the more entry-level market, Panasonic for the mid-level market, and Pioneer for the high-end market.

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It's possible but unlikely for awhile. Studios still make a lot of money on physical and companies care the most about the bottom line. I still refuse to buy any didgital movies, only rent or stream what's already included in Netflix, Prime, HBO, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. I will gladly pay $20-25 for a quality new UHD combo realease, would only rent a digital copy for $4-5 max.

Do the math.
Well, when Disney launches their streaming service, it will be the first time they don't have to share revenue on their home media products with anyone. Also, it's a big gamble for Disney, they are producing some very expensive exclusive content and they need a huge success. I'm pretty sure the way they release physical media will change when the streaming service launches.

And yes, physical media is still making money, but it's nowhere near the numbers it used to be, and they are only going down. At some point it just becomes more of a hassle.
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What Blu Ray player would you recommend? I was just going to get a Samsung one, since I own many Samsung TVs in my house, but by the sounds of it Pioneer would be better?

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