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post #31 of 119 Old 04-14-2019, 02:27 AM
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Any DV advantage is largely theoretical for consumers, since equipment doesn't exist.
That is, if you are fixated at bit depth or maximum luminance aspects of DV spec.
However, equipment that is able to read DV dynamic metadata and adjust the tonemapping curve on the fly, adapting to existing panel's capabilities as best as it can, definitely exists today.
IMHO the philosophy is very similar to that of Dolby Atmos - you master once, every renderer knows its configuration, strengths and weaknesses and tries to create best output it can.
Consequences? These outputs will have very different physical (ie A/V) characteristics, indeed. It is always just the best attempt, using existing hardware.
I agree, that with a capable display, the real-world difference between DV and HDR10 is not easy to notice. Unless you do a real side-by-side comparison and look for how both bend the gamma knee in extremely dark and bright areas.
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Another Disappointment From Sony ?

I have a couple of UBP-1000es that are very nice players but of course no DV. Also with 100M Ethernet they cant keep up with some 4k Uhd files. You would think Sony would fix this and have gigabit Ethernet in in their flagship model. Cambridge, Oppo, Panasonic 9000 have it. Looks like the 1100es stays at 100M.
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When is going to be available?

Does anyone here in this forum know when the Sony UBP X 1100ES is going to be in stores?
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I believe that Sony didn't announce a release date.


A few webshops already list it:

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My sources say I can expect it in my country in July.
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You might find this helpful, no pricing yet. Sony UBP-X1100ES features/spec sheet (PDF)

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You might find this helpful, no pricing yet. Sony UBP-X1100ES features/spec sheet (PDF)
What's Bravia mode? Is that a new Sony feature?
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You might find this helpful, no pricing yet. Sony UBP-X1100ES features/spec sheet (PDF)
Anyone notice this in the spec sheet?

"Integration with Dolbe Vision"

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What's Bravia mode? Is that a new Sony feature?
Probably a new custom extension to HDMI-CEC (BraviaSync implements some of them already):
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Bravia Mode optimises the player for the best settings when using a Sony Bravia Display to ensure you're always getting the best picture quality.
Source: https://pro.sony/en_GB/pdf/ubp-x1100es
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This player is on my radar. Might be the one to replace my beloved Oppo. The Bravia mode really has my interest piqued.
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You might find this helpful, no pricing yet. Sony UBP-X1100ES features/spec sheet (PDF)
Nice features… hope to see player in stores, sooner than later.
Very similar features to the player of the "P" Brand
Expecting to complement my Sony XBR65X905F
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I wonder if the price gap with the x800m2 and 1100es will be as big as the x800 and 1000es.

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I wonder if the price gap with the x800m2 and 1100es will be as big as the x800 and 1000es.
I think yes. It seems you are privileged if you have a small display, option for an audiophile power cord and a decent stereo analogue out. This is the reason why I bought X1000 last year. Now, after 18 months Dolby Vision is added and Bravia synch too and.... They make me laugh. These had to be implemented since the beginning, I mean DV, like Panasonic... Shame on the person who decided this approach.

A friend of mine called me a few weeks ago and told me he wants to replace Oppo 105D. Wow. Difficult mission. The local dealer borrowed us Panasonic 9000 and Pioneer LX800. I come with Sony. Panasonic was the clear winner of the video section, very very closed followed by Pioneer. Sony on the 3rd position, but still on that e podium. For audio Panasonic and Pioneer changed the positions, followed by Oppo and last one Sony. In the final, he kept Pioneer. We have to respect his decision. IMO.

I like the video processing of X1000. Do not need DV, because my OLED does not know <<who is Mister DV>>. Actual TVs are not 3D, so my next step is a projector and a new universal player. Which ones?. Do not know yet. I will be on the same situation as my friend. Till then, X1000 is very good for me - movies and concerts, BD ones. For music, analogue out is not a big concern - I am listening analogue music via turntable. However, it is a week point and the next player will have a better analogue out versus X1000, like LX 800 for example. Thanks.

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It would be nice if they allowed you to select 24-bit/88.2 as the DSD>PCM conversion rate. 176.4KHz is unnecessary - my X800 with the latest firmware outputs significant hiss (aliasing noise) over both HDMI ports playing an SACD with internal conversion to PCM, as if they forgot to turn the 50KHz filter on.. I know this is basically just an X800M2 with an internal DAC and optical output, with front display and better warranty, but offering more audio options on an ES unit would align with their old ES ethic.
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It would be nice if they allowed you to select 24-bit/88.2 as the DSD>PCM conversion rate. 176.4KHz is unnecessary - my X800 with the latest firmware outputs significant hiss (aliasing noise) over both HDMI ports playing an SACD with internal conversion to PCM, as if they forgot to turn the 50KHz filter on.. I know this is basically just an X800M2 with an internal DAC and optical output, with front display and better warranty, but offering more audio options on an ES unit would align with their old ES ethic.
If you have an DSD capable receiver you should be able to have the receiver decode the DSD file without conversion to PCM. It's a shame they don't have 88/24 conversion. With Oppo 88/24 is the default for PCM conversion.
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Anyone notice this in the spec sheet?

"Integration with Dolbe Vision"

Dolbe must be the version of DV where it doesn't switch to DV automatically.
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Sony id dead wrong for making people spend hundreds to buy the same players that should have had DV to begin with! Since DV TV's (I have one) are no where near pure enough to do DV justice, I would even bother to double dip!
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Sony id dead wrong for making people spend hundreds to buy the same players that should have had DV to begin with! Since DV TV's (I have one) are no where near pure enough to do DV justice, I would even bother to double dip!
I would consider double dipping for the cheaper one(x800M2), if they get rid of the manual toggle for DV. None of the other DV players do this, so I really don't understand why Sony Players don't automatically switch between DV and HDR10 etc. like other players.

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Any word on when it will be released. I have one on order with my dealer and he doesn't know.
When I get it I connect to my receiver via HDMI, is that correct? It had ethernet connection, right? My receiver is Anthem 1120
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Any word on when it will be released. I have one on order with my dealer and he doesn't know.
When I get it I connect to my receiver via HDMI, is that correct? It had ethernet connection, right? My receiver is Anthem 1120
Yes HDMI. You have two options as it has HDMI 2.0 and 1.4 (audio only) connections. Hdmi direct to TV/projector and audio HDMI to anthem or HDMI 2.0 to anthem and anthem to TV. It has ethernet as well as wi-fi.
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Yes HDMI. You have two options as it has HDMI 2.0 and 1.4 (audio only) connections. Hdmi direct to TV/projector and audio HDMI to anthem or HDMI 2.0 to anthem and anthem to TV. It has ethernet as well as wi-fi.
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Thanks for the info!
Hi,
I have Anthem too and I receive info via HDMI and then to my OLED with the 2nd HDMI cable. The only option to see the menu of Anthem. In a proper way I mean, not to use the uncomfortable small display of Anthem like in the other option.
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I have Anthem too and I receive info via HDMI and then to my OLED with the 2nd HDMI cable. The only option to see the menu of Anthem. In a proper way I mean, not to use the uncomfortable small display of Anthem like in the other option.
That makes sense. Thanks
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X1100ES vs. X800M2 -- Are the front display, analogue audio out (DAC), optical audio out, removable power cord, and extended warranty the only upgrades present with the X1100ES?

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X1100ES vs. X800M2 -- Are the front display, analogue audio out (DAC), optical audio out, removable power cord, and extended warranty the only upgrades present with the X1100ES?
Also integration capability and RS-232 for that.
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No word yet if Sony's DV toggle stubbornness will continue for the X1100ES.
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I'm curious about LAN playback, whether or not it will pass hi-rez audio formats or be limited to DD 5.1 as is usually the case.
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I'm curious about LAN playback, whether or not it will pass hi-rez audio formats or be limited to DD 5.1 as is usually the case.
What kind of Hi-Res audio do you mean?
Previous X800 and X700 both play them all over LAN (PCM 192/24, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, DSD) so why wouldn't this one?
This is playing on my UBP-X700. My previous X800 was no different in this respect:
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