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post #571 of 599 Old 03-13-2020, 04:40 PM
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Mine freezes up too when trying to watch COSTA RICA HDR, but I'm not going to return it.

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Mine freezes up too when trying to watch COSTA RICA HDR, but I'm not going to return it.
YouTube is basically unwatchable on mine. Thankfully, I use my ATV for streaming 99% of the time but go to this one on occasion to check and see if it's gotten better. Unfortunately I have been let down. If Panasonic isn't going to put any effort into improving apps on this player, then please take them off. Disc playback is excellent though.
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YouTube is basically unwatchable on mine. Thankfully, I use my ATV for streaming 99% of the time but go to this one on occasion to check and see if it's gotten better. Unfortunately I have been let down. If Panasonic isn't going to put any effort into improving apps on this player, then please take them off. Disc playback is excellent though.

Yeah, I use my Sammy K8500 for everything except UHD, that's why I purchased the Panny. Oh, and the Panny plays YouTube it perfectly.

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I just picked up the ub-420 today. Have been using the Samsung k8500 for the last 3½ years. Noticed a little better highlight detail and overall picture detail with the Panasonic. So far so good! Looks like the Samsung is going to pick up bedroom duty
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A couple of quick questions...……â€&#166 ;………..

1...My display is a Sammy KS9800, capable of close to 1,500 nits. Should I use Middle/High Luminance or Super High for the optimizer or neither and just leave the optimizer off?
I went back and forth with this myself. My ks8000 has darn near identical light output to your ks9800 .
After about an hour today checking highlight detail between the settings I found that it had better detail with the medium/high luminance turned on. Fine details were blown out when set to super high or turned off.
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Recently picked up a 420, mainly for the Atmos, my HT is still 1080P.

I like the UB420 a lot, but 2 things are bugging me. It never shows remaining time in movie when I pause it, and if I leave it paused for 10 or so minutes, the player shuts down, which then times my projector off....

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I am picking up a 420 tomorrow. I am running a JVC RS500. Am I thinking this right that if the 420 is set to output BT2020 and use the HDR optimizer for a 4K disc that the PJ does not need a custom gamma curve? Thank you!

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I am picking up a 420 tomorrow. I am running a JVC RS500. Am I thinking this right that if the 420 is set to output BT2020 and use the HDR optimizer for a 4K disc that the PJ does not need a custom gamma curve? Thank you!

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Yes, if you output SDR2020. If you output HDR2020 you’ll want a custom curve.

Don’t forget to set gamma to 2.4 on the JVC if going with SDR2020.
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This is good news.

I absolutely love my 820, and I would have jumped on this had it been available then.

I want Panasonic to succeed big time with these players so they'll keep at it down the road.

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Not sure why, but Netflix stopped working on my Panny 420. Just black screen. Sometimes, Netflix logo comes up, but stuck there. Already tried hard reset (ok+blue+yellow).

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Not sure why, but Netflix stopped working on my Panny 420. Just black screen. Sometimes, Netflix logo comes up, but stuck there. Already tried hard reset (ok+blue+yellow).

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I assume you tried unplugging it.
Thx, i had not. But it started working yesterday, allowed me to log in. If it doesn't work today, will try unplugging.

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Buy a Pany 420 if the player is within your budget, IMO

The player's HCX video processor is reason enough to buy this player, IMO.

The 420 (and the 820 too, I believe), has a feature, that for us, is great. When the first fast forward step is selected with DVD and BD discs, the player outputs audio at this faster than normal playback speed.

60 minutes of viewing time = 96 minutes of video playback, with audio that is easy to understand 95% of the time, for us. This works with DVDs and BDs (4K too? We don't have a 4K set, yet).

Perhaps, you have a higher 'movie tolerance' than we do - you will watch almost any movie from the beginning to the end at the normal speed (1.5 - 2 hrs). But if your like us, this feature is great.

BTW:
With the lockdown, due to COVID-19, we can't even walk to the local Red Box at the corner, to rent a movie, due to our age (I'm 71 - she's 69).

So, in order to keep from going stir-crazy, we signed up for the 8 disc plan at DVD.com (with BD). The total number of discs that has been shipped to us to date (3-2 to 3-23) is 31. Thats 31 discs in 22 days. There's still 111 discs in our queue today.

Obviously, with this number of movies, quite a few aren't worth watching - let alone buying - for 1.5 to 2 hrs. But with the 420's first fast forward step (with audio), there has been only a few movies where I have hit the eject button, before finishing the movie. After all, I've paid $$$$ to rent them.

If you can afford a 420 (or 820 for DV), at todays great price, buy one and check out this feature, and the player's video processor (if you have a lot of DVDs that you've bought over the years), from a store with a good return policy - even if you don't have/aren't interested in 4K discs and/or a 4K set.

I have no doubt that you would keep the player and that you would actually use the faster x playback speed with audio, with movies that you find to be disappointing, instead of hitting the eject button, like we used to do before getting a 420.

Are there other brands/models of players that has the faster than normal playback speed with audio ???

If so, please post them here.

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I have a Panasonic 420 problem I hope some other owner may be able to help me with. Somehow I’ve screwed something up. When I press the HDR button THIS comes up. “This operation is not available. Change video settings to “Set 1 or Set 2,” but when I go to the video setting I only get 2 choices. “Still mode (paused video) and “Auto” (seamless play on.)

Can anyone tell me HOW to actually “Change video settings to Set 1 or Set 2”? I would REALLY like to be able to use HDR Setting since this is why I bought this player!

Thanks for any suggestions you can make for me.
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The HDR button only works when a uhd disc is playing, right?
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The HDR button only works when a uhd disc is playing, right?
It works with any hdr material is playing(like YouTube, physical disc, and so on)
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Should I be getting the HDR on YouTube videos? I tried the Costa Rica 4k, but when I press info on my Epson 5050, it's saying SDR.

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Should I be getting the HDR on YouTube videos? I tried the Costa Rica 4k, but when I press info on my Epson 5050, it's saying SDR.

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I've found that not all Youtube videos claiming to be HDR really are. Sometimes there are several versions online and only one version is HDR. Local variations in streaming quality can also cause an HDR dropout.
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Has anyone successfully connected to a Network drive in >Home Network >Network Drive >Videos Then add the IP Address and credentials to the Network drives list? I’ve tried every which way to connect with no success. If I go to the web browser in the web apps on the player, I can logon to the network location with no problems. Just wondering if anyone has had any luck with this. I’m trying to connect to my NAS to stream movies thru the ub420.

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Is anyone else having issues with 4K HDR disc looking very grainy. The standard blurays are much cleaner looking. The samsung k8500 doesn't show the grain as badly as the Panasonic but it's still there

Ready player one and Alita battle Angel look rough. Color and lighting looks great but the dang grain and lack of sharpness makes it look rough compared to the standard bluray
Now with ready player one it's only certain scenes. With Alita it's pretty much the whole movie

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Has anyone successfully connected to a Network drive in >Home Network >Network Drive >Videos Then add the IP Address and credentials to the Network drives list? I’ve tried every which way to connect with no success. If I go to the web browser in the web apps on the player, I can logon to the network location with no problems. Just wondering if anyone has had any luck with this. I’m trying to connect to my NAS to stream movies thru the ub420.



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I just tried connecting to my PC video folder. No luck either.

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Is anyone else having issues with 4K HDR disc looking very grainy. The standard blurays are much cleaner looking. The samsung k8500 doesn't show the grain as badly as the Panasonic but it's still there

Ready player one and Alita battle Angel look rough. Color and lighting looks great but the dang grain and lack of sharpness makes it look rough compared to the standard bluray
Now with ready player one it's only certain scenes. With Alita it's pretty much the whole movie

Yes, not all UHDers are created equal. I have only eleven and some are better looking than others. I use my 420 for 4K and my 8500 for everything else (3D/BD/SD). I just can't see spending the extra $5 for the UHD when the BD looks outstanding, at least on my Epson 6040.

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I bought 4K discs at first because they were the only ones with Dolby Atmos/DTS:X. Now, it seems like all my recent-release Netflix 2K discs have Atmos/DTS:X. I haven't bought a 4K disc in a long time. With my upscaling FP and TV's, I really don't see enough of a difference in the video to justify purchasing 4K discs over renting 2K now that the audio is on a par.
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Anybody have ARC issues like this?

I have an older AVR that can receive ARC signals, but can't pass 4k video signals. I have the TV setup so that it sends audio to the AVR and the TV controls the receiver volume level. All is working well, but once I added the Panasonic 420 things got meh.

I got the Panasonic for the dual HDMI outputs so I can send 4K video straight to the TV and lossless audio to the receiver.. I ran one HDMI to the TV and the other to the receiver. During setup I set the HDMI (Video) to Auto and the HDMI (Audio) to Audio only. When I play a disc I'm able to start everything configured just right for this setup. But the TV senses a audio signal since the Panasonic is set to auto and switches the receiver over to the ARC input from the HDMI (Audio) feed from the Panasonic. I'm able to switch back to the Panasonic audio feed and losses audio resumes, but as soon as I adjust the volume even with the receiver's remote the TV forces the receiver to switch the ARC input.

I could just turn off HDMI CEC but I'll lose all those features. Any ideas?
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I’ve read through about half the comments on this thread. Not sure I’ve been able to piece together an answer to my specific question.

I currently have a JVC x35 projector. It doesn’t sound like the 820 would give me any advantage over the 420 for my set up, in terms of image quality/HDR Optimizer/Tone Mapping. I plan on upgrading to the JVC NX7 at some point. Would there be an advantage to the 820 once I upgraded? In terms of dynamic tone mapping etc? Or again, the only real advantage would be to jump to the 9000 model.

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I plan on upgrading to the JVC NX7 at some point. Would there be an advantage to the 820 once I upgraded?
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One more clarification, with the JVC, it has its own tone mapping capability. However, it seems still like the UB9000 would still offer an advantage because of the “basic luminance” display option, correct? Which then displays for 350 nits vs 500 bits. Or would the built in dynamic tone mapping of the NX7 render the 350 nits of the UB9000 worthless vs 500 nits of the UB820 or UB420.
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When I send Netflix 4K it is yuv 8 bit, 1080p is 12 bit. What is the deal with that? (Ozark for instance)
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