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Please let us know the boot time for the new FOX discs (e.g. Day After Tomorrow, FF: ROTSS) as well as earlier java based titles (e.g. POTC: COTBP, The Descent)

It just took 35 seconds from pushing the close botton on the remote to Kingdom of Heaven to begin playing..

With Disk in DVD player and player on stop, using POTC: COTBP it took 22 seconds for the POTC loading message to appear and a total of 38 seconds for the Disney screen to appear...
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Setting up now... Posts coming shortly....

Looking forward to your PQ comparisons with the 94HD...
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Please give us your impression of bitstream DTS-HD MA and bitstream trueHD decoded in your 9.8 versus PS3 decoding/sending multichannel LPCM.

I have the 9.8 and PS3 and I'm wondering if the 95HD Pio produces better sound for blu-ray.

Theoretically I don't see any reason why 5.1 PCM on the PS3 would sound different than DTS-HD MA via the 95FD but the Kingdom of Heaven Soundtrack was played on the PS3 when I first got the Integra DTC-9.8 and I listeded to the DTS-HD MA soundtrack of same title on 95FD last night and it sounded significantly better ( sounds were absolutely un-frig'in-believable )..

I didn't have a chance to A/B them but the DTS-HD MA is mindblowing - better than any soundtrack I recall listening to...
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Anyone know when the Best Buys (Magnoila stores) might have these in stock?
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I am very interested in this player. I have been planning on picking up a player in the next month.

But - I really think I will wait until I can compare this unit to the new Panasonic DMP-BD30 thats coming out.

I would assume the BD30 will have 7.1 Analog out + DVD Audio like the BD10, which the BDP-95 is missing.

So I'm wondering what this unit has that the Panasonic will not, and is this worth double the $$.
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This should be made a sticky...going to be a popular thread I think!

I miss the rosewood sides on the old Pioneer Elite equipment!

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After setting it up I can't help feeling deja vu all over again. As you can see in the pic it does look nearly identical to the 94HD and HD1. I do like the class look it has though. I really like that high gloss piano finish look. As Tony said it takes about 35 seconds for titles to start playing. Which actually is a pretty BIG improvement over the two older models. Just like the others initial set up is a breeze. I do like the Pioneer start up screen better on the 95FD. It just looks cooler. I am not only comparing this unit to its brothers (or cousins) but also to the samsung 1400. This ELITE unit costs more but you feel like it is money well spent.

Once again I love having the resolution button on the remote. Being able to change it on the fly is so much nicer then having to stop the movie and go into the set up menu (like the 1400 and HD DVD players). If there is one feature other manufacturers could learn from Pioneer that would be a good one to start with. Also, having 1080p/23.98 (24) done without issues is a breath of fresh air. Toshiba has been struggling as many of us know so it is nice to get a unit out of the box (just like the 1400, 94HD and HD1) that can do 1080p/23.98 without any EDID issues. I have not spent a great amount of time with this unit but from what I have I can say it is THE best Blu ray player on the market.

The picture Q is very colorful and very sharp. It bests the very impressive (especially for its price) samsung 1400. Not by a lot in terms of pic Q but when you add the entire package together you know why the Pioneer is more. Picture settings, menu options, great remote (which is light years ahead of the competition) and of course a great picture with great sound. Speaking of sound I have only done a couple of comparisons so far but it is to easy to select bitstream passing in the menu. No confusion here. You are either sending D.D. or DTS via HDMI or PCM... Your call. That easy. I will do more on audio soon but sending the audio to my receiver (onkyo 905) sounded great just as I expected. It also sounded good the few minutes I had the 95FD doing it. I am not going to say which is better because I do not want to open that can of worms again. So do not ask here. PM me.

I am using the new Sony VPL- VW60 "Black Pearl" (which is the 3rd pic)for all of my comparison so far. It handles 1080p/23.98 like a champ. I can also send it straight into my crystalio II and then tweak the image before sending it to the VW60 in 1080p/23.98. The Pioneer 95FD gets along with all of my other components which I do not take for granted these days. And yes I am making reference to the XA2 and A35 which are stubborn when it comes to sending 1080p/24 to some displays. In direct comparison to the 94HD the 95FD is obviously a more flexible unit with a little quicker load times. Being able to pass HBR audio directly to the receiver for decoding is a really cool feature. Especially if you purchased one of the newer ones that can decode it. The picture Q is very close. I keep going back and forth. Going straight to my pj it does look like the 95FD is just a little more sharper but their brilliant colors are nearly identical. I will say the home media gallery looks more refined on the 95FD. I have never really got into that feature before but now I am intrigued so I may just jump in!

Bottom line is if you have the 94HD and do not care about the bitstream audio feature then there is absolutely no reason to dump it for the 95FD. However, if you do not and are interested in getting the best Blu ray unit in terms of features and pic/sound Q then look no further than the 95FD! I hate to keep picking the new Pioneer units as my favorite Blu ray unit but honestly the other companies are still two steps behind. The 95FD is the starter in my set up. More to come (SD DVD versus the A35 and XA2 and even 1400) as well as a few more thoughts on audio...BTW, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (BR) is looking and sounding awesome on this unit! Pick up a copy!
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Thanks for the review. Paragraphs are your friend!
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Sorry, I just realized how long it was!

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There, now it is more eye-friendly...

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Sorry Tony. Did you get 24p working on the 95HD yet?

Yes, flawlessly :-) Thanks.
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How are the analog output setup for those with older equipment?
Options?

Are you really hearing a difference?
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You'd buy a $1K BluRay player w/ and old receiver?
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Joe - anything in your instruction manual regarding this player's ability to play AVCHD encoded DVD's?
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Well, I am pleasantly surprised to post that the 95FD has excellent upconversion. Much better than the 94HD and HD1. I even put it through the HQV Blu ray benchmark tests and it handled them very good. Especially my favorite stadium torture test! And as tradition lately it even made my adult videos look great! It is right on par with the A35 and XA2. I will work harder tomorrow and do real side by side comparisons (1400 included) but my first initial impressions are very good to excellent... More to come...

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I will hook the 95FD up to my onkyo TX1000 and test analog audio. I can do it with my 905 as well but since the 1000 is a couple years old I thought that it would be a better test...

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All good stuff keep it going for those of us who are still just waiting for these to hit more in mass.

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I only glossed over the manual but I will actually read it in the morning and report back unless someone else has already...

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Great report Joe. Thanks. Looks like a winner. I too LOVE the "classic" look and finish of "Elite" equipment. This is definitely the machine I will purchase when my Onkyo 885 Pre/pro arrives.

However - just read at Bluray.com:

"At CES, Pioneer will debut their "full-profile" player. Daewoo and Denon are also expected to release their new players soon. Daewoo recently displayed a Profile v2.0 player at IFA and Denon previously announced that their first Blu-ray player would be Profile v1.1 compliant."

I no - I no it never ends. You could spend the rest of your life waiting for the next "great" thing...
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Where are you guys buying your 95HD? I don't have a Magnolia close by. Is Tweeter carrying them? What about Robert at VE, I don't see them on his site?
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Where are you guys buying your 95HD? I don't have a Magnolia close by. Is Tweeter carrying them? What about Robert at VE, I don't see them on his site?

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I only glossed over the manual but I will actually read it in the morning and report back unless someone else has already...

Nice short review, also first time eyeing the Black Pearl go figure where they got that name.. I have a Pearl also and I am looking at getting the 95 to match up with there new 94 Receiver.

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Interesting comment on the PQ compared to the PS3. Speaks well for the PS3.

Have you compared a 5.1 PCM track coming out of the PS3 vs 95? I know there should not be a noticable difference, but if you would not mind doing a comparison I would be curious to know for sure.

It is not surprising that DTS-MA sounds better from the 95 as we are getting the full signal vs only the 1.5 core of the PS3. Cant wait to hear this!

Thanks for the reports all!

Edit: Also any comparisons that could be made (if possible) to the 1400 would be great as far as PQ and AQ in particular.


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I have been watching Kingdom of Heaven Blu Ray while listening to the DTS-HD MA sound track ( Integra displays DTS-HD MSTR :-) Sounds un-frig'in-believable.

Player seems to be operating flawlessly. Boot up time very acceptable. Responds to remote immediately. It is difficult to tell if there are any PQ differences from the PS3 that I had but the DTS-HD MA is mind blowing...

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More to come (SD DVD versus the A35 and XA2 and even 1400)

Thanks Joe for the great information.

I am looking forward to reading your more detailed thoughts on this unit's SD up-conversion performance.

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Doing more "lab" work now. This is going to be one busy weekend...

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Where are you guys buying your 95HD? I don't have a Magnolia close by. Is Tweeter carrying them? What about Robert at VE, I don't see them on his site?


I just called Magnolia and they said in system but earlest would be the 18th of this month.
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Doing more "lab" work now. This is going to be one busy weekend...

Give us all the details - and then some.
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joerod, can we see a photo of the onkyo showing DTS-HD Master Audio in the display? many thanks
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Sure. I will do one tonite...

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