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How much material did you need to buy for 124" screen? And where did you buy?

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How much material did you need to buy for 124" screen? And where did you buy?

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Thanks prican2000,
I bought 3 yards and had minimal waste
I'm in Canada and got it from Fabricland...... I'm a card carrying member now as that way you get sale prices LOL

OH and I forgot to mention that the total cost did not include the layer of white as @Fattykidd hooked me up with it as he didn't need it.
Saved me about $100 (regular price).... ya we get gouged up here Prices are way less in the USA..... but I won't rant about that..... again
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Passed final electrical inspection...... kind of a joke but oh well its done.....
next.... book final building inspection
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Passed Final Building Inspection..... again a joke

Visit went something like this.....
Inspector - "Looks good, nice space"
Me - "Thanks it was a lot of work"
Inspector - "Is that drywall with wood trim on the roof"
Me - "No its a drop ceiling"
Inspector - "Oh wow that's nice"
Me- "thanks and its easy to put in"
A few peasantries and idle chit chat....

Inspector - "OH good you have heating in the space"
Me (the voice in my head) - "WTF we live in Canada.... of course I have heat in my basement"
Me (what I actually said) - "Yes"

A few peasantries and idle chit chat....
Inspector - "Ok looks good thank you bye"
Me - "OK bye"

Two minutes later I realize something...... run out side and just catch him
Me- "do you need to sign off on the panel for final?"
Inspector - "OH ya I guess I should"
Me (the voice in my head) - "What do we pay these guys for"

Go back down stairs
Inspector - "OH do you have your permit number"
Me (the voice in my head) - "OH MAN.... really"
Me (what I actually said) - "Yes, I will go get it"


UGH..... but it is done and hopefully I do not have to deal with them again
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Passed Final Building Inspection..... again a joke

Visit went something like this.....
Inspector - "Looks good, nice space"
Me - "Thanks it was a lot of work"
Inspector - "Is that drywall with wood trim on the roof"
Me - "No its a drop ceiling"
Inspector - "Oh wow that's nice"
Me- "thanks and its easy to put in"
A few peasantries and idle chit chat....

Inspector - "OH good you have heating in the space"
Me (the voice in my head) - "WTF we live in Canada.... of course I have heat in my basement"
Me (what I actually said) - "Yes"

A few peasantries and idle chit chat....
Inspector - "Ok looks good thank you bye"
Me - "OK bye"

Two minutes later I realize something...... run out side and just catch him
Me- "do you need to sign off on the panel for final?"
Inspector - "OH ya I guess I should"
Me (the voice in my head) - "What do we pay these guys for"

Go back down stairs
Inspector - "OH do you have your permit number"
Me (the voice in my head) - "OH MAN.... really"
Me (what I actually said) - "Yes, I will go get it"


UGH..... but it is done and hopefully I do not have to deal with them again
LOL, glad it went through no worries. As silly as it is (and waste of money as you pointed out) I'm sure there are others on the forum who would have killed for an inspector like that (atleast he didn't nitpick u to death)

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LOL, glad it went through no worries. As silly as it is (and waste of money as you pointed out) I'm sure there are others on the forum who would have killed for an inspector like that (atleast he didn't nitpick u to death)
Thanks ddigler..... LOL ya I guess it could have been way worse
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That seems like a dream inspection. I can only hope mine goes that well lmao!

Edit, actually, for my under slab inspection it was similar.

*inspector walks down*
*sees pipes under slab*
*starts to walk back upstairs*

I was like "whoah wait, now that I got ya here I have questions!" hahaha.
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I was like "whoah wait, now that I got ya here I have questions!" hahaha.
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I love my rack but one of the things with a two post rack is the cable management out the back..... lacing bars are not an option
So I came up with a simple / cheap solution using heavy gauge wire that I had kicking around, a little black paint and Velcro straps

Really happy with how they turned out and I will probably make more as I get more organized
If anyone has suggestions to make them even better I'm interested....



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I man my OCD would have me in convulsions........ hey wait why is hardly anything hooked up?????

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Eh that was a snapshot of the chaos at our amp comparison meet we did at his house. We compared multiple amps in a blind test, and the wiring was out of control.

His space normally doesn't look like that. I tagged him to get a little rise, but he didn't' take the bait.

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If anyone managed to make any sense of that mess, I commend them. Im with WB, that would actually drive me into insanity if I ever saw something like that in person, g2g or not.

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His space normally doesn't look like that. I tagged him to get a little rise, but he didn't' take the bait.
LOL.... that is kinda what I figured

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I agree kudos to figuring that mess out LOL

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So lets talk about remote controls.... who's using what and why?
For the longest time I have been really thinking / dreaming about irule (or similar) but lately I have been wondering if a "typical" remote (hard buttons) would be better.....

I can see there being pros and cons to each style..... thoughts?

Things I want to control: Marantz, PC, projector, satellite receiver and PS3 (not as critical, I know there are dongles you can get for it)

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I really like my Harmony Elite remote control... don't know if it can do anything with a PC though...
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I really like my Harmony Elite remote control... don't know if it can do anything with a PC though...
I use it with my PC and I like it. I had to buy a HP USB remote to make it work. I like having the dedicated remote with the option of using a smartphone or tablet. I really wanted to use iRule, but at the time, there wasn't an option to use a dedicated remote. Maybe there is now, but I haven't checked.

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I love my rack but one of the things with a two post rack is the cable management out the back..... lacing bars are not an option
So I came up with a simple / cheap solution using heavy gauge wire that I had kicking around, a little black paint and Velcro straps
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For the longest time I have been really thinking / dreaming about irule (or similar) but lately I have been wondering if a "typical" remote (hard buttons) would be better.....
Yeah, I was originally thinking I'd go with a software based solution but I realized I really need the tactile feeling of the buttons on a remote. The gestures may be handy, but they aren't the same. Plus, the software based solutions are either ugly (iRule) or require subscriptions.

I ended up getting a Harmony Companion with the hub. It's pretty fantastic. I can control anything wireless or IR (and maybe bluetooth) already and will be able to control the lights and such later when I install the hardware for that. Setup was extremely simple, too. My only complaint is that setting up the remote for Kodi required quite a bit of reading and even then I wasn't able to get the 'stop' button to work in all cases. All minor issues in the grand scheme of things.

Plus, it does have an app for your phone if you want to use that that is at least as good as the basics of iRule and the like. I usually only use the app to start up my theater from my living room if I want everything running by the time I get in there. Otherwise I just use the hard remote.

I have it controlling my Denon receiver, Roku, and Nest thermostat wirelessly; my HTPC with Kodi via the LAN (essentially "wirelessly"); and my Panny projector via an IR blaster (included). As I mentioned, it will eventually also control my lights via (probably) z-wave unless I get a dedicated wireless-based lighting solution (e.g., Phillips Hue).

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I use it with my PC and I like it. I had to buy a HP USB remote to make it work. I like having the dedicated remote with the option of using a smartphone or tablet. I really wanted to use iRule, but at the time, there wasn't an option to use a dedicated remote. Maybe there is now, but I haven't checked.

https://www.amazon.com/Control-Recei...=hp+usb+remote
I have also seen many talk about Flirc USB

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Yeah, I was originally thinking I'd go with a software based solution but I realized I really need the tactile feeling of the buttons on a remote. The gestures may be handy, but they aren't the same. Plus, the software based solutions are either ugly (iRule) or require subscriptions.

I ended up getting a Harmony Companion with the hub. It's pretty fantastic. I can control anything wireless or IR (and maybe bluetooth) already and will be able to control the lights and such later when I install the hardware for that. Setup was extremely simple, too. My only complaint is that setting up the remote for Kodi required quite a bit of reading and even then I wasn't able to get the 'stop' button to work in all cases. All minor issues in the grand scheme of things.

Plus, it does have an app for your phone if you want to use that that is at least as good as the basics of iRule and the like. I usually only use the app to start up my theater from my living room if I want everything running by the time I get in there. Otherwise I just use the hard remote.

I have it controlling my Denon receiver, Roku, and Nest thermostat wirelessly; my HTPC with Kodi via the LAN (essentially "wirelessly"); and my Panny projector via an IR blaster (included). As I mentioned, it will eventually also control my lights via (probably) z-wave unless I get a dedicated wireless-based lighting solution (e.g., Phillips Hue).

Strongly recommended!
Thanks guys.... 3 quick votes for Harmony
Oh cool I did not realize there was also an app for this product.... with warm up times on the projector I could see using it to get things going while getting snacks together

I see there is the ability to use a mini blaster with it also, would some be over Wifi??.... still have to connect all my gear to my network
How much playing around is needed with the location of the "hub" for rack mounted gear and projector

Seeing a pretty big price difference in the Harmony elite and companion.... ~$300.... are the differences really worth that???
Notable differences from comparison: Touch screen, recharge dock, control game consoles, interactive help,

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How much playing around is needed with the location of the "hub" for rack mounted gear and projector
The IR blaster is connected to the hub via an 8-ft cable that resembles a headphone jack. I extended mine with a 12' extension cable to allow it to be in my theater while the hub is in my equipment closet.

Like I said, though, nearly everything these days is controllable via the network or bluetooth so I only needed the IR blaster for my projector (older Panny).

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Notable differences from comparison: Touch screen, recharge dock, control game consoles, interactive help,
I don't have any problems paying the price for extra features that are worth it. In the case of the Elite, though... those extra features simply weren't worth it to me. I don't care at all about the touch screen since I'd just use the app if that mattered. The batteries in the Companion remote last for a very long time (a year, maybe?) so the lack of a recharge dock isn't an issue. I'm not sure what the Elite does to control game consoles does that the Companion doesn't -- never looked into it since there are no consoles in my theater (yet). And interactive help is an odd one for me since any help I'd need is far beyond what a tiny screen on a remote could provide.

So yeah, the Elite looks a lot nicer but it just seems like a lot of money for nothing at all that matters to me. It feels like it exists from a time before smartphones and apps, honestly.
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The IR blaster is connected to the hub via an 8-ft cable that resembles a headphone jack. I extended mine with a 12' extension cable to allow it to be in my theater while the hub is in my equipment closet.

Like I said, though, nearly everything these days is controllable via the network or bluetooth so I only needed the IR blaster for my projector (older Panny).
Excellent, most of my gear could be run via network...
Dumb question but is the ir blaster also a receiver..... and is there a max length with the extension? EDIT: Does the remote even work based on IR???? probably not.... thus I might not need any IR at all.....oh maybe for satellite receiver

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I don't have any problems paying the price for extra features that are worth it. In the case of the Elite, though... those extra features simply weren't worth it to me. I don't care at all about the touch screen since I'd just use the app if that mattered. The batteries in the Companion remote last for a very long time (a year, maybe?) so the lack of a recharge dock isn't an issue. I'm not sure what the Elite does to control game consoles does that the Companion doesn't -- never looked into it since there are no consoles in my theater (yet). And interactive help is an odd one for me since any help I'd need is far beyond what a tiny screen on a remote could provide.

So yeah, the Elite looks a lot nicer but it just seems like a lot of money for nothing at all that matters to me. It feels like it exists from a time before smartphones and apps, honestly.
I agree..... I am a "thrifty" guy but if it's worth it I have no issue spending the extra. Great points.
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Dumb question but is the ir blaster also a receiver..... and is there a max length with the extension? EDIT: Does the remote even work based on IR???? probably not.... thus I might not need any IR at all.....oh maybe for satellite receiver
The IR blaster is strictly outgoing. It does make sense that there would be a max length for the cable since we're talking a low voltage pulse that would definitely degrade over a distance. I have no idea what that distance is, though. I can say anecdotally that it absolutely works at roughly 20 feet.

The remote itself exclusively communicates with the hub and does so wirelessly. The remote does not communicate with anything at all other than the hub... likely why it's called the Companion. So definitely no IR.
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The IR blaster is strictly outgoing. It does make sense that there would be a max length for the cable since we're talking a low voltage pulse that would definitely degrade over a distance. I have no idea what that distance is, though. I can say anecdotally that it absolutely works at roughly 20 feet.

The remote itself exclusively communicates with the hub and does so wirelessly. The remote does not communicate with anything at all other than the hub... likely why it's called the Companion. So definitely no IR.
Thanks Granroth, I look forward to the detail on the remote and smart hub you mentioned in your build thread...... and of course the others you mentioned.

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I love my rack but one of the things with a two post rack is the cable management out the back..... lacing bars are not an option
So I came up with a simple / cheap solution using heavy gauge wire that I had kicking around, a little black paint and Velcro straps

Really happy with how they turned out and I will probably make more as I get more organized
If anyone has suggestions to make them even better I'm interested....
you must be kidding me Water this turned out incredible. If I'm able to achieve even half of that clean of a set up I'll be happy
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you must be kidding me Water this turned out incredible. If I'm able to achieve even half of that clean of a set up I'll be happy
Thanks ddigler...... I just have the one component (Marantz) cleaned up, few more to go.

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The Harmony Elite can definitely control some things via WiFi, such as my Insteon Lights... I am not sure how it controls my Roku 4, if via WiFi or another connection, but Roku 4 isn't "IR".

The Harmony Elite remote control itself has its' own IR emitter, which is what I use to control my projector in my room. All of my components are in an AV Closet, but my project is still 'in room'. You can point the remote directly at the projector, or 'bounce' it off the screen, which works remarkably well. Normally, when I go in and turn things on and when I turn things off... I'll just point the remote at my projector. However, if I have already taken my seat, and figure out the movie is in a different aspect ratio, I point my remote at the screen & bounce it off the screen & adjust the lens memory via reflection vs pointing at my projector. Similarly, if I am shifting my image a little, or making minor adjustments, I'll just bounce off the screen.

I had an old unused Harmony laying around, so, got the "$100 off" best buy trade-in, so, that made it fairly competitively priced. Honestly though, I don't replace things real often... so, I usually like going with the 'latest & greatest' at the time, so, I didn't spend much time evaluating it vs other Harmony options.
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The Harmony Elite can definitely control some things via WiFi, such as my Insteon Lights... I am not sure how it controls my Roku 4, if via WiFi or another connection, but Roku 4 isn't "IR".

The Harmony Elite remote control itself has its' own IR emitter, which is what I use to control my projector in my room. All of my components are in an AV Closet, but my project is still 'in room'. You can point the remote directly at the projector, or 'bounce' it off the screen, which works remarkably well. Normally, when I go in and turn things on and when I turn things off... I'll just point the remote at my projector. However, if I have already taken my seat, and figure out the movie is in a different aspect ratio, I point my remote at the screen & bounce it off the screen & adjust the lens memory via reflection vs pointing at my projector. Similarly, if I am shifting my image a little, or making minor adjustments, I'll just bounce off the screen.

I had an old unused Harmony laying around, so, got the "$100 off" best buy trade-in, so, that made it fairly competitively priced. Honestly though, I don't replace things real often... so, I usually like going with the 'latest & greatest' at the time, so, I didn't spend much time evaluating it vs other Harmony options.
Good to know Kevin as I am on a mission to have Insteon in my house, 6 dimmer switches so far...... no controller yet .... any suggestion and insight are always welcome

My projector has an Ethernet connection and I ran a Cat6&5 to it so I should be able to control it that way..... I hope...

I did a quick google and it appears the great white north is getting buggered again..... no $100 recycle up here

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