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Love Movies with the Family....but need help

Where to start.......
Well I love this Forum, I found it about 1 mth ago searching HT ideas, I cant lie i'm on here 20 times a day the wife says i'm obsessed. I'm trying to learn everything about setting up a new HT in our basement....but i have little experience with receivers and HT speakers. I would absolutely love to pick the brains of this forum. Both me and the wife are Military so were used to taking it thick, so please if at any time i'm talking out my @$$ or i just have no clue please just tell me how it is. I've seen on other forums people wont offer better ideas because its there own and don't want to force it. Please if you have ideas pass them on.

OK now that i'm done ranting.....

We are a family of 4 and love movies. Blu ray / Netflix / Xbox one. we do love to play music but our real focus is to make a family movie spot.

BUDGET is $3500 - $4000. (wife's Budget is $3000..but im still working on that)

What is needed

1. TV-- been looking at the 2016 Vizo 60 or 65 M series 4k <-- When it releases
2. Receiver-- Denon AVR-S710W / Denon AVR-S910W / Onkyo TXNR646 <-- been leaning towards Denon so far. But there is still Yamaha / Sony / Pioneer
3. Speakers-- Now here is the most trouble im having. No clue what to look for. plus the speakers will change on the ears listening and the space/room its in. Now ive read its best to buy a good LCR ? and skimp on surrounds (upgrade later)

TV - $1800-$2000
Receiver - $500-$700
Speakers - $1200-$1700
I would like this to last at least 6-8 years

Basement is a rectangle
26 feet Long
11.8 Feet wide
7.5 feet high (Drop ceiling)

at the back of the room the last 8 feet opens up to another room plus stairs. not sure if that would through off any acoustic sounds during a movie.

out off the 26 feet we will be using no more the 9-10 feet. T.V going on the upper short wall and the couches 8-10 feet away.

Man i hope some off this makes sense LOL.
Any feed back will be awesome.

And Again this forum truly rocks.
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you can see from the pics what i'm working with. the last was is rotated but you get the jiffed (just gangsta tilt the head) Don't mind the mess we just moved in and i'm re-carpeting the one bedroom.
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Cool space.

I don't know where you live but I was able to buy almost everything in my theater used, on Craigslist. Or sometimes ebay (if you are comfortable with that sort of thing).

Chairs, speakers, sources, amps/receiver, display, screen, materials for acoustic panels -- almost everything was used, b-stock, refurbished.

In the case of screen and receiver, that meant a 30% discount. In the case of the chairs and speakers, it was more like a 60% discount.

But here's the thing: Plan ahead, prioritize, and copy what you learn. For example, you will want to paint that room a darker shade (probably) and add some acoustic panels (definitely).
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projector sure would make family movie nights epic in that room : ) for a lot less than $2000.
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Ever consider a 1080P projector and a DIY acoustically transparent screen?


That would be my first bit of advice.
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Two posts while I typed that wee bit......


Kind of reminds me of https://www.avsforum.com/forum/19-ded...o-theater.html
If you want a more media style room look....

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This AVR
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-A840...yamaha+rx+a850
Order it quick before they change their minds and go back to full price.

When it comes to speakers you will have to decide what is aesthetically pleasing to the wife while still being a solid performer. I would look into tower speakers from Polk, Pioneer, or Def Tech.

Don't forget to budget in a good powered subwoofer. This little guy will give you pretty good boom for the buck
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R12SW-...h+subwoofer+12

Please don't buy into the Monster Cable hype. Get your HDMI cables, subwoofer cable, & speaker wire from Monoprice or Blue Jeans Cable. Save hundred$ while sacrificing nothing.

With a budget of $2000 for a TV you should be looking at Samsung, LG, or Sony over Vizio. Even if you had to scale back to a 60" you would be getting a much better picture and a more reliable set.

You may also want to factor in a universal remote. Logitech Harmony is a good choice, easy to program, and range in price from $60 - $250 depending on how fancy you want it to be.

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I agree with those saying to go with a projector. Nothing is more enjoyable than getting that movie theater feel at home. I highly recommend the benq w1070. Superb picture quality for around $650. It is also bright enough to watch with some ambient light. Silver ticket makes great screens for those on a budget also. Just remember, you can always upgrade over time so just spend what you are comfortable with and you will be happy.

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Also, like those have said above make sure to check eBay. Almost all of my gear was purchased on there at a fraction of the price.

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WOW,

Quick responses.

@nathan_h , I have bought many things on ebay or Kijiji but not electronics. I would be worried that i would not be able to see if there damaged. I have been looking for speakers on kijiji / ebay/Amazon. How easy is it to add and take down acoustic panels. were Military so we could be posted on short notice and some peeps dont like HT rooms


@Tedd , Ya that HT room is very sleek. as for a 1080P projector wouldn't it be best to get a 4k UHD ? I guess i ruled out a projector because its part of the unknown. So much easier to buy a t.v. and plunk it down, I 'm going to start looking up projectors and screens. do you connect via cables or wireless ?

@Dropkick Murphy Great price on the Yamaha but i'm in Canada (Eh!!) and for that deal they wont ship here. As for the T.V. I have been reading like crazy on Samsung, LG, or Sony and for the size and picture quality the Vizio is right up there with them. I'am waiting till the 2016 M series 4k releases so I keep checking prices on all makes.

for argument sake say the $2000 is a TV or Projector.
Now with the remaining funds around $1500-$2000 how should i allocate my $$$
LCR and Sub = $1200 so $300 a piece ? Whats the most important Speakers to purchase (better quality ones i shouldn't skimp on)
Receiver = $500-$600 ?
Surrounds <---I'm thinking they can be of average or cheap $200 or less or do I really need them right now ?


Thx again for all the feedback/Help
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For a $3K budget you can definitely get surrounds, no reason not to, you could even get a full 7.1 setup or use height speakers/Atmos. Surround/height speakers don't need to be of the same quality.

I've sent you a pm with some suggestions.
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Absolutely get a projector. The Benq W1070 is considered the benchmark of low priced projectors. I am on my fifth projector. I've never spent more than $1000 on any of them. They keep getting better and better as the technology has improved. I bought a W1070 when it was on sale a year ago for $639 and then never opened it, but sold it on eBay and bought a used Sony Hw30es instead. I use a diy 109" screen and I am planning to make a new one at least 120" diagonal. If you are able to diy a projector screen, you can save at least $2-300. There is a sub forum for diy screens and you can find all the info you need to make one using inexpensive spandex.

Put the extra money you save on the TV into better speakers and subwoofers. Especially subwoofers, plural. You want at least 2 and preferably 4. Again, huge money can be saved if you diy. This kit at partsexpress.com is a good start: http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...ndle--300-7099 To power it, pick up an inuke 3000dsp from northernsoundandlight.com for about $220. That will have enough power for two of those 18" subs at 880 watt each.

For reference level speakers that are tremendous bang for the buck, get 5 Mackie C200s at under $200 each delivered. You could get 7 but I've never found the rear surrounds to add much. Read post 30 in this thread to see where the C200s are compared to highly regarded speakers costing over 6 times as much: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-di...nder-hood.html

Any $500 receiver is fine. Just make sure to get one on sale or even a refurb.

Here's my breakdown for a low cost, blow your socks off home theater:

Receiver: any major brand mid level receiver ~$500
Speakers: 5 x Mackie C200 @ $200 each $1000
Subs: 2 x Dayton UM18-22 @ $399 each (wood glue, wire, terminal cup, extra) $798
Behringer Nu3000dsp for 880 watts per sub with crossover and EQ: $225
Projector: Benq W1070 $650
Screen: diy acoustically transparent using spandex ~$150

Total: $3323

Optional upgrades: 2 more C200s for 7.1 $400
2 more UM18-22 subs for rear of room: $798
substitute NU6000dsp for nu3000dsp if getting 4 subs for only $100 more than nu3000dsp.

This type of setup will absolutely amaze you and your friends and family. The picture quality of even entry level projectors is fantastic when projected onto a 120" screen. The sound quality from Blu-rays with speakers capable of the full dynamic range intended along with adequate subs is stunning. You will never regret going this route.

You will also want some good black paint for the walls. See the thread https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-dig...r-go-back.html to see what a difference blacking out the room can make, along with many ways to accomplish that goal.
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If you can control the light in the room I'd go projector. You can get a great AVR for $400 on clearance from last year as you won't be doing 4K or Atmos. Used speakers on eBay are fine because they come with a guarantee. For 2K you can get a very nice setup. Unless you are really into tinkering with placement and equalizing subs, I'd suggest just getting one. Two is a better solution since you'll have lots of people watching, though. You can snag 2 SVS PB1000s for 1k or under if you want to try your hand at integrating 2 subs. If not, go with 1 sub that's a bit beefier, the SVS PB2000 or an HSU VTF3 MK5. There are also great options with PSA and some other ID sub companies. For speakers, spend the majority on the front 3. The center is by far the most important for home theater. I'd recommend bookshelf speakers as towers (while great) don't make sense for your budget with a sub. If you can go audition some speakers and let us know what you like, we can suggest some brands to listen to. Try finding a specialty speaker store where you can listen to a lot of good options.

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I am not sure what would work best for you, but many panels are similar to hanging a picture on a wall.

These guys are pretty good and may have Canada shipping options:

http://www.gikacoustics.com

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I'd go with a projector.
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BUDGET is $3500 - $4000. (wife's Budget is $3000..but im still working on that)
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WOW,

Quick responses.

@nathan_h , I have bought many things on ebay or Kijiji but not electronics. I would be worried that i would not be able to see if there damaged. I have been looking for speakers on kijiji / ebay/Amazon. How easy is it to add and take down acoustic panels. were Military so we could be posted on short notice and some peeps dont like HT rooms


@Tedd , Ya that HT room is very sleek. as for a 1080P projector wouldn't it be best to get a 4k UHD ? I guess i ruled out a projector because its part of the unknown. So much easier to buy a t.v. and plunk it down, I 'm going to start looking up projectors and screens. do you connect via cables or wireless ?

@Dropkick Murphy Great price on the Yamaha but i'm in Canada (Eh!!) and for that deal they wont ship here. As for the T.V. I have been reading like crazy on Samsung, LG, or Sony and for the size and picture quality the Vizio is right up there with them. I'am waiting till the 2016 M series 4k releases so I keep checking prices on all makes.

for argument sake say the $2000 is a TV or Projector.
Now with the remaining funds around $1500-$2000 how should i allocate my $$$
LCR and Sub = $1200 so $300 a piece ? Whats the most important Speakers to purchase (better quality ones i shouldn't skimp on)
Receiver = $500-$600 ?
Surrounds <---I'm thinking they can be of average or cheap $200 or less or do I really need them right now ?


Thx again for all the feedback/Help
I bought one of the BenQ projectors on amazon for 700 and i bought a fixed frame screen for 200 and couldnt be happier.. the family loves it!!!

http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-HT1075-10...tronics&sr=1-6

http://www.amazon.com/STR-169106-Sil...ilpage_o00_s00

then i got a Pioneer Elite receiver on clearance at best buy for 250 and bought BIC America speakers for my L/C/R and Surrounds.

1800 for screen, projector, receiver and 5 speakers...added a sub later.

Receiver : Pioneer Elite SC-95
Front Speakers: 3 DIYSG 1099's
Surround Speakers:2 DIYSG Volt 10's Atmos: 2 DIYSG Volt 6's
Subwoofers: Dual LaVoce SAN214.50 21's in Cyclops enclosures w/Inuke 6000 DSP Channel A
Nearfield: 4 B-52 SP-1804 18s w/Inuke 6000DSP Channel B
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What do you guys think between the BenQ W1070 and BenQ W1070+ Price difference is about 350-400 ( is it worth it ? ) Also the BenQ HT1075 how does it compare to the W1070 ?
Is side shifting needed. I have a drop ceiling so placement should't be an issue.

I'm really starting to think a projector is the best way to go ( a lot more learning on my part but its kool ) If i were to skip the DIY screen, what is a decent screen to buy ? Fixed / pull-down. will a good screen make a big difference in the pic quality ? I could use a budget of 300-500 for a screen.

i'm still on the fence for speakers, reading and educating myself. Also need to find a place to audition speakers


Again, quality and deference between BenQ HT1075 vs BenQ W1070

Thx again
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Sorry another quick question.

Been reading a carp load on projectors.....been reading on BenQ HT1075 vs BenQ W1070. the BenQ HT1075 seems to have an overheat problem not sure if its been fixed but some of these reviews are recent.

Now i've stumbled across the BenQ HT3050 its $1400 while the other 2 are $1000. Think the step up to the HT3050 is worth it over the other 2. Mind you I planning on keeping this projector for good 5-8 yrs.
Still leaves me more then enough room to buy a screen

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Sorry another quick question.

Been reading a carp load on projectors.....been reading on BenQ HT1075 vs BenQ W1070. the BenQ HT1075 seems to have an overheat problem not sure if its been fixed but some of these reviews are recent.

Now i've stumbled across the BenQ HT3050 its $1400 while the other 2 are $1000. Think the step up to the HT3050 is worth it over the other 2. Mind you I planning on keeping this projector for good 5-8 yrs.
Still leaves me more then enough room to buy a screen

Thx
i dont have anything to compare my 1075 to, but we all love it...I did the fix screen because i think it looks nice in a fixed theater room..and it was only 200 bucks..and is well reviewed..its in the link I posted above..
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Receiver : Pioneer Elite SC-95
Front Speakers: 3 DIYSG 1099's
Surround Speakers:2 DIYSG Volt 10's Atmos: 2 DIYSG Volt 6's
Subwoofers: Dual LaVoce SAN214.50 21's in Cyclops enclosures w/Inuke 6000 DSP Channel A
Nearfield: 4 B-52 SP-1804 18s w/Inuke 6000DSP Channel B

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and have these as my 5 speakers...all 5 under 600...they are loud and clear...
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If you're stepping up to the higher price ranges for a projector, you can get the Sony 40ES or whatever the actual model number is. It'll run you 2k. But you will only notice the difference if you can control the light in your room.

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Trying to figure out if this website is good for info
www.projectorcentral.com been looking at the Projection Calculator for the BenQ HT2050 & HT3050. when adjusting the scales for Throw Distance and Screen size if you hit the red part of the scale all that needs to be done is Limit the light entering the HT room to rectify it ? and do you have to be bang on with the measurements ? 120 inch screen the projector needs to be mounted at 11.4 ft


HT2050 has
True Contrast Ratio 15,000
Brightness 2200 lm

Now others have 10,000 and 2000 is this going to make a big difference ?

Thx again you guys seriously have help tremendously no joke.

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Trying to figure out if this website is good for info
www.projectorcentral.com been looking at the Projection Calculator for the BenQ HT2050 & HT3050. when adjusting the scales for Throw Distance and Screen size if you hit the red part of the scale all that needs to be done is Limit the light entering the HT room to rectify it ? and do you have to be bang on with the measurements ? 120 inch screen the projector needs to be mounted at 11.4 ft


HT2050 has
True Contrast Ratio 15,000
Brightness 2200 lm

Now others have 10,000 and 2000 is this going to make a big difference ?

Thx again you guys seriously have help tremendously no joke.

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There is a better calculator here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-dig...alculator.html

It may not have data for the new Benqs. The one at projectorcentral is good but the other one uses actual test data rather than manufacturers specs which can be unreliable. I think the calculator you're referring to assumes a low light level to begin with. So if you are into the red then it may not be optimal. Some people are happy with lower brightness or higher brightness. I think you get used to it, but probably best to stick to the norms if possible.

You'll get more info and better responses on projectors in the sub forum for under $3000 projectors. There are many discussions about the new Benqs. Remember that things change quickly in this area and you might be better off spending just enough then upgrading in 3-4 years when more dramatic improvements are possible.

I decided to go with the Sony projector because of noise level. My previous projector was quite noisy. The Sonys are almost silent while the Benqs are known to be louder than most would prefer. Even my noisy old Infocus was almost never noticeable during a movie, but I still wanted a quieter projector. The Sony is excellent but I think I could have been very happy with the Benq as well. The Benq W1070 is very bright and will work well with a bigger screen than the Sony. Also better 3d.

Speakers don't change much even over a 10-20 year span. Speakers and subs are something you can keep for a long time if they are ones you like so if you're going to splurge, that would be where to do it. For the front you can do 3 identical speakers behind the screen if you use an AT screen. That is ideal. For a big screen, you need big sound. That is one reason for the strong bias towards big subs and pro audio type speakers on avsforum. You can always play the system quieter but you will find yourself inching up the volume if the speakers can handle it. When the dialog sounds about normal volume, that is when the sound effects will make you jump. Here is an interesting thread that gives an introduction to reference level capable speakers. Read post #2 especially: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-spe...-speakers.html
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I'm doing the finishing touches on my Home theater and this forum helped a lot. I too got the Benq w1070 and it is awesome, everyone is blown away by it. I think if you got anything more, you wouldn't see much of a difference and you might get more out of your money, but putting the money into something else in your HT. The w1070 would be perfect for you, I got a pull down 100" screen for about ~$70, though I might have gone with a transparent at 110-120" w/ speakers behind it, if I could do it again. I got my receiver, speakers, and sub woofer for $300 off C-List, which was a steal as the sub new went almost for that much. TBH I think 7.1 is overated as there are very few movies that have it, like 7-12%. It might be better to put the money into slightly better than 5 speakers and add speakers later if needed. Lots of people suggest getting matching speakers for your fronts. One mistake I made was using regular speaker cable for the sub, I retrofitted a coax cable it is much better.
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I'm doing the finishing touches on my Home theater and this forum helped a lot. I too got the Benq w1070 and it is awesome, everyone is blown away by it. I think if you got anything more, you wouldn't see much of a difference and you might get more out of your money, but putting the money into something else in your HT. The w1070 would be perfect for you, I got a pull down 100" screen for about ~$70, though I might have gone with a transparent at 110-120" w/ speakers behind it, if I could do it again. I got my receiver, speakers, and sub woofer for $300 off C-List, which was a steal as the sub new went almost for that much. TBH I think 7.1 is overated as there are very few movies that have it, like 7-12%. It might be better to put the money into slightly better than 5 speakers and add speakers later if needed. Lots of people suggest getting matching speakers for your fronts. One mistake I made was using regular speaker cable for the sub, I retrofitted a coax cable it is much better.
i agree....spend the extra money on the speakers and the sub....the BenQ is awesome and everyone that I have had over thought it looked great.

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I'm doing the finishing touches on my Home theater and this forum helped a lot. I too got the Benq w1070 and it is awesome, everyone is blown away by it. I think if you got anything more, you wouldn't see much of a difference and you might get more out of your money, but putting the money into something else in your HT. The w1070 would be perfect for you, I got a pull down 100" screen for about ~$70, though I might have gone with a transparent at 110-120" w/ speakers behind it, if I could do it again. I got my receiver, speakers, and sub woofer for $300 off C-List, which was a steal as the sub new went almost for that much. TBH I think 7.1 is overated as there are very few movies that have it, like 7-12%. It might be better to put the money into slightly better than 5 speakers and add speakers later if needed. Lots of people suggest getting matching speakers for your fronts. One mistake I made was using regular speaker cable for the sub, I retrofitted a coax cable it is much better.

Ya I've read TONs of info of late on projectors. LCD vs DLP, CR ratings, how many LM is needed and on and on. I have narrowed it down to BenQ HT2050 & W1070. Because of the slightly better color wheel, glass lens and its newer (should receive more firm updates) im leaning towards the HT2050. Because of this Forum you guys have help me not waste my money on a 65 inch Led 4k T.V. I was stepping out of my comfort zone when looking at projectors, screens, where to mount the PJ, how big a screen, Fixed or pulled down list goes on and on. But the past 2 days of heavy research with WICKED guidance from this forum has made it SOOOOO much easier. ( ill be asking for help on the size of screen later just an FYI )

I'm now on to figuring out what kind off speakers to get. Klipsch looks great but they have so many. Been looking at this one Klipsch R-25C Reference 5.25" 100W Center Channel Speaker.
not sure what size for the floors as they have many and the $$ changes a lot. how big of a sub is needed ? Klipsch Reference R-10SW subwoofer or do i need bigger ?

Also this looks like a great deal is it needed or is it over kill (looking at the Denon avr-s710w)
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/klipsch-klipsch-home-theatre-speaker-essentials-kit-khtk16100-khtk16100/10226746.aspx?
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I'm going to go against the grain here. Make sure you sample a projector environment before buying one. I wouldn't have one because I don't want to sit in the dark all the time. Ambient light is a projector's nemesis. Your space isn't all that wide anyway, and your seating position is kind of close. And maybe it exists and maybe it doesn't, but I still haven't seen a projector that has the picture quality of my Sony XBR. The contrast and sharpness just aren't there.
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Ya I've read TONs of info of late on projectors. LCD vs DLP, CR ratings, how many LM is needed and on and on. I have narrowed it down to BenQ HT2050 & W1070. Because of the slightly better color wheel, glass lens and its newer (should receive more firm updates) im leaning towards the HT2050. Because of this Forum you guys have help me not waste my money on a 65 inch Led 4k T.V. I was stepping out of my comfort zone when looking at projectors, screens, where to mount the PJ, how big a screen, Fixed or pulled down list goes on and on. But the past 2 days of heavy research with WICKED guidance from this forum has made it SOOOOO much easier. ( ill be asking for help on the size of screen later just an FYI )



I'm now on to figuring out what kind off speakers to get. Klipsch looks great but they have so many. Been looking at this one Klipsch R-25C Reference 5.25" 100W Center Channel Speaker.

not sure what size for the floors as they have many and the $$ changes a lot. how big of a sub is needed ? Klipsch Reference R-10SW subwoofer or do i need bigger ?



Also this looks like a great deal is it needed or is it over kill (looking at the Denon avr-s710w)

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/klipsch-klipsch-home-theatre-speaker-essentials-kit-khtk16100-khtk16100/10226746.aspx?

path=184d299d0c2e8acd8a3ebdc6d3756602en02




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I picked up Klipsch R-26F floorstanders, the R-25C center, and the R-10sw sub a few months ago when my wife and I bought our new house. 2 Klipsch R-1650-C speakers are in the ceiling as my surrounds, all driven by the Denon s710w. I use this in my very open living room with a Sony 65" LED and have been very happy with the setup so far. I can't speak to the projectors since I don't have one. You may want to go with a bigger/more powerful sub than the R-10sw if you want heavy hitting bass for movies. The Klipsch sub is fine, but the though of picking up a second matching sub in the future has definitely crossed my mind.

I know people here will say not to get the "Reference" line from Klipsch and to go the RP route, but I have been very very pleased with my decision to go with these speakers. Just wanted to give my 2 cents since my setup is very close to what you were talking about.
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I'm going to go against the grain here. Make sure you sample a projector environment before buying one. I wouldn't have one because I don't want to sit in the dark all the time. Ambient light is a projector's nemesis. Your space isn't all that wide anyway, and your seating position is kind of close. And maybe it exists and maybe it doesn't, but I still haven't seen a projector that has the picture quality of my Sony XBR. The contrast and sharpness just aren't there.
Love the input, its hard to view any projectors where i live, I could drive 1.5hrs to Toronto and view tons of stores there i guess. As for the seating, in the pic the couch is about 8ft from the wall, there is a bed in the pic put it will be going back into the spare room once i carpet the floor. I can move the seating back to 10ft or 15-20 feet if needed. HT room is about 11.5 - 12 ft wide and 7.5 ft high (drop ceiling) it is such a big choice to decide PJ over LED t.v. dont really care about 4k as of now maybe do a switch in 4-5 yrs. But i'm hoping (my true goal) that the little bit of difference in pic quality will be negated with a commercial theater feeling in our home (screen size and pumping sound). Kids are 13,17 so we want to try and get some great family times before they move out (hopefully sooner then later )

I agree its hard to view it from Youtube vids but a trip might be needed to store that has HT rooms set up.

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I picked up Klipsch R-26F floorstanders, the R-25C center, and the R-10sw sub a few months ago when my wife and I bought our new house. 2 Klipsch R-1650-C speakers are in the ceiling as my surrounds, all driven by the Denon s710w. I use this in my very open living room with a Sony 65" LED and have been very happy with the setup so far. I can't speak to the projectors since I don't have one. You may want to go with a bigger/more powerful sub than the R-10sw if you want heavy hitting bass for movies. The Klipsch sub is fine, but the though of picking up a second matching sub in the future has definitely crossed my mind.

I know people here will say not to get the "Reference" line from Klipsch and to go the RP route, but I have been very very pleased with my decision to go with these speakers. Just wanted to give my 2 cents since my setup is very close to what you were talking about.
Denon s710w has 525 Watts ($499) is it enough power for your set up ? what do think for a HT room with projector & 100-120 inch screen, do you think i should look at more watts like 700 ? there are a few receivers on sale at BB Onkyo TX-NR646 700watts ($599) / Pioneer VSX-1130-K 700watts $(499) / Denon AVR-S910W 630-Watt ($599). Im in Canada so $$ will be different. Can either of these Receivers run 5.1 with 2 subs ? i could just buy another later ( family is used to a 42 inch LED t.v. with a LG sound bar and they love it )
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