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My unfinished basement has been taken over by my 8 year old son and his arsenal of Nerf guns. His birthday is coming up and he wants to have a Nerf war in our basement. I told him he will have to help me clean it up before that could happen. Wife doesn't want it to happen in our house at all. We will see who wins.
I am looking forward to the nerf wars in the future lol. May the odds be ever in your favor...
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More progress.

Of note for specifics regarding the media room... Decided to do a fairly dark grey color for the ceilings and eventually will paint the screen wall the same color. It is called Software from SW. Also spoke with one of the employees there about sheen across the different lines of paint. He said the Painters Edge line is the flattest among them, so we went with that. Literally sprayed over 20 gallons of paint this past week!!


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Thanks for the detailed videos they are a big help!
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Thanks for the detailed videos they are a big help!
Sure! YouTube is how I learn a lot of the time so thought I would try to help others as well. Plus it's more fun than pictures for me haha!
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Finally have all my lighting in and got the ditra and tile laid down. Hadn't done a full tile job like this yet. Little bit of a learning curve, but it turned out great.

If you guys ever do large plank tiles (or really any tile job) those tile levelers are AWESOME!!! There were pretty noticeable lips along the edges of the planks before using those to get them level.


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Ever closer to getting to use this space. Cabinets, trim, fireplace, and carpet left to go!


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Another step done. I gained a lot of respect for finish carpenters over this past week. Especially for trim that is stained and not painted. Your edges have to be perfect for that!

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Trim is done! I didn't show all the hours of prep work filling holes, sanding, caulking, etc... But all that makes for a great finish! It's the things you don't see that makes the trim look good (gaps, holes). Thanks for watching the videos guys, hope they are helpful!


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Great progress! I like the videos and detail that you're putting in. Obviously the level of detail will be more appreciated when you're completed.

I should take video of me at Home Depot trying to maneuver full 4x8 sheets of 3/4" oak plywood into the cart and fit into my car.

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Great progress! I like the videos and detail that you're putting in. Obviously the level of detail will be more appreciated when you're completed.

I should take video of me at Home Depot trying to maneuver full 4x8 sheets of 3/4" oak plywood into the cart and fit into my car.
Thanks! I actually just ordered a new camera that I will start using for videos next week (among other things). The Gopro Hero 3 is nice, but not exactly in this setting. And there's never anyone to help you at those stores load heavy items! Takes forever to track someone down... I usually do it by myself by loading one side and sliding it on the cart. My wife was nice enough to lend me a hand She has honestly been a huge help/support getting all of this done.

Finishing up the rock work by this weekend, looking forward to seeing it all completed!
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Fireplace complete for the most part. Need to do the same to the bar front before carpet gets delivered and installed (3-4 week delivery date). Then it's HT time 😃. I'll have some questions for the experts about a few components here soon...


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Blister I just wanted to say how much I appreciate the time and effort you're putting into these videos, you've inspired me to not only get my buns in gear on my own basement finishing project but also to try my hand at some new things (might re-do my fireplace in stone thanks to you)! So thank you, and keep up the good work! I'm excited to see it when it's all done. Also, belated congratulations on the little one
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Hey Ink, appreciate the compliments! This has been a fun/challenging process and I've had fun making the videos. Really glad it's been helpful and motivating for you! Things started moving slower this week as my wife went back to work and I'm in charge of the little guy all day. So it's a good thing construction is almost done lol! Should have a new video up in a week or so. Planning on a more in depth how-to on the stone work as well when I do the bar, so hopefully it will help with your fireplace if you decide to go that route.
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Was a slower past few weeks. Had some other projects that I needed to get done, Easter, and a family emergency we had to go out of town for. But between all of that, I was able to get things ready for carpet.

I also ordered pretty much all of my audio equipment this past week! Very excited to get it all! And think I got a pretty decent deal for everything... obviously an unboxing video to come.

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Ended up making a pretty detailed how to video for doing stone veneer. Hope this helps anyone looking to do something similar for their space!

And I also have over 400 lbs of audio equipment in boxes in my garage at the moment...


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Looks like you're getting close! Can't wait to see the final product, I appreciate how much work has gone into getting this far.

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Looks like you're getting close! Can't wait to see the final product, I appreciate how much work has gone into getting this far.
Thank you! It is very close... it would be closer of the shipping company didn't stick a forklift through all of my carpet, but hey, what do ya do... it'll probably be another 3-4 weeks until carpet gets installed now unless they surprise me. More videos to come though
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Equipment Unboxing!

Yes! On to some fun stuff!

I got all of my new audio equipment from adorama a few days ago. Everything came looking great except for one. Idk what the hell happened to it, but you gotta check out the video to see. Doubtful it happened during transport...

Subwoofers not listed, but equipment list is:
Receiver- Yamaha RX-A3070 Aventage
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Center - Polk LSiM 706c
Front L/R- Polk LSiM 707 towers
Front height - Polk LSiM 703
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Atmos- (2) Monoprice Amber 8" (not shown in video)

I will be setting all of these up once carpet is installed and looking to get a refurb projector for the time being. Need to pay off some school loan debt before springing on a 4k laser projector I've had my eyes on...

And I know there is a divide among a lot of members on here on this particular line of speakers from Polk. I have to be honest, they were not even on my radar, let alone my first choice. I was planning on doing diy speakers like my upstairs living room has currently. But for the money I paid for the whole package... I can enjoy the area much sooner and my workload is greatly reduced. I will be testing these against my diy Swope TMWW towers I made and posting my impressions as well. Still very excited about the setup. For the money, I think these speakers will be excellent.



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Started another thread in regards to projector suggestions for under $1k. New or refurb. If you have any helpful insight, please check out the thread and let me know!

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Ended up getting a used Panasonic PT-AE8000U off eBay for under $950. Had roughly 800 hours on the bulb. Very good condition. Was almost thinking of jumping for a budget 4k projector but decided to wait a few years. I'd rather spend more on subs here soon and let the prices go down on the newer tech in the 4k projectors before I get one. Tested the Panasonic out and I think I'll be very happy with it! I'll get some more videos up soon of the progress that's happened down here.
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Lots of changes the past few weeks. I'll do an update video of that soon. For now, here's how I did the counter tops for the built ins.


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I'm sure most of you know how to mount a projector... but here is a video no the Peerless AV Smart Mount universal ceiling mount. Pretty awesome little mount for around $90. There is a link in the description of the video on YouTube


As I mentioned above, I ended up with a used Panasonic AE-8000U projector with about 840 hours on it. I am currently projecting on my grey wall, but I gotta say, this thing looks fantastic!! Can't wait to finish up a few things and get a screen put up. This model has a lens shift feature which I am using, but not in the traditional sense most people probably us it. Most would have a scope screen and use this feature to automatically adjust the 16:9 image to the correct size to fit that screen. With my current setup, the distance to my screen wall is my limiting factor, so I wanted the largest 16.9 screen I could get (roughly 126"). I felt the 16.9 AR would be underwhelming in the smaller scope screen if I went that way. So I am using the lens memory to adjust the height of the 2.35 video. Instead of having black bars on the top and bottom area of the screen, I have programmed the image to automatically move the 2.35 image to the very bottom of where the screen will be. This means there is a larger black bar up top and no bar on the bottom. I feel this centers the image for a more comfortable viewing height as well as makes the sound stage just slightly more accurate. By that I mean since my center channel is below the screen and not behind it, the sound is closer to the center for voices, etc. It's a small difference, but hey, I'll take it.



There is a small demo of the video quality towards the end. There's a lot of blue lighting in the particular sense I show, but the contrast and vivid colors look excellent. Spoiler alert, it is muted as the original got flagged and taken down for copyright stuff. Maybe next video I'll get some stuff I can actually post...


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Quick update and walk-through. Painted walls, doors/handles installed for the most part, carpet installed, theater area up and running. Bar and bathroom are the only big things left really. And some floating shelves. And cabinet doors to make. And painting the bedroom...


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Cabinets installed and countertops made this week. I'll have the video up soon.



This video is just a quick overview of the Monoprice Amber 8" in-ceiling speaker and some initial impressions. Overall, I gotta say I'm pretty impressed with how well the speaker blends with the Polk LSiM setup I have for the front stage and rear surrounds. If I am only listening to stereo sound from the LSiM 707s and switch to only the in ceiling speakers, obviously there is going to be a difference in sound (mainly bass response which is expected). The highs and mid range (focusing on voices) sound crisp with the Amber speakers, much like the Polks, but don't have as much force and presence as the tower speakers do. Again, no surprise here. If they were just to have some ambient music playing, such as a whole home setup with in ceiling speakers, I think these would fit the bill just fine. I have yet to test them against the Alpha series speakers without the ceiling cans in my bar area, but bass seems decent from the 8 inch speakers. Nothing that will blow your socks off, and you quickly remember what real low frequency response is once you turn on the towers or sub, but sufficient for casual listening.



Now for the real reason they are being used, as a 2 speaker atmos setup in my media area... I honestly think they blend very well with my Polks, even though the tweeters are ribbon compared to the dome tweeters in the Polks. When watching a movie, or more noticeably, an Atmost/DTS X enabled concert blu-ray, the speakers blend in to the sound stage. Everything flowed seamlessly from front to back without hearing any major difference in frequency response or harshness. That was my major concern, the possibility of the ribbons being more harsh than the dome tweeters of the Polks. So far, I have not seemed to notice enough of a difference to say anything negative about the setup. I don't know if the in-ceiling cans were necessary in a home theater setup due to most lower frequencies being managed by the front stage and sub, but thought I would try them out. I'll follow up on the difference with and without the cans soon. I feel most overhead and surround presence is in the mid-to-upper frequency range anyways, so probably not much is gained/lost with the cans and ported feature.



Overall, pretty happy with the setup so far. I need to find some time to rotate the speakers in the ceiling to see if there is any difference in frequency response/presence when listening to the same content since ribbon tweeters have different direction sound that done tweeters. Hope you find the video helpful.


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Nice video and thanks for the review. I have been looking at the speakers on Monoprice and thought a out going with all in-wall and ceiling speakers from them since their price point is pretty good, but now after seeing your video I may just go with the ceiling speakers for Atmos when I am ready. I like the magnet speaker covers, do they come in black as well? I will probably be painting my ceiling black if I can ever get it built. I would like them to blend in.

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Nice video and thanks for the review...

Thanks man... It looks like Monoprice is putting out some pretty decent components recently as far as audio goes. Doing in-ceiling or in-wall speakers will always be a compromise from good bookshelf or towers, but for atmos, these have been great. Really need to hook my bar ceiling speakers up and compare soon, been too busy trying to finish the bar to worry about that.



The grills only come in white I believe. There is some thin grill cloth on the back side that would need to be removed before hand, but I'm sure you could paint them with rattle can to make them black. Or an hvlp sprayer if you have that sort of thing. I don't think rolling would be an option as the mesh is too close and the paint would fill in the gaps. I thought about spraying them the color I painted the ceiling, but all of the lights are white too, so it didn't stick out too much. If I painted the grills, I'd want to paint all of the lights too. Maybe a project for down the road, but not anytime soon haha

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Getting a little frustrated waiting 3 months now for a replacement center channel from Adorama/Polk. Thinking about getting some money back from Adorama and either trying to return the rest of the speakers or sell them locally and going with some DIYSG kits instead. I can use my diy Swope speakers I made in the meantime. Haven't decided yet, started a thread about it. Feel free to weigh in.

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Pretty long video here, but tried to give a start to finish guide on making counter tops. This epoxy coating stuff if pretty cool, so many different techniques and color options. We did the whole bar area for about $600, so quite a savings over actual stone or quartz.



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Getting a little frustrated waiting 3 months now for a replacement center channel from Adorama/Polk. Thinking about getting some money back from Adorama and either trying to return the rest of the speakers or sell them locally and going with some DIYSG kits instead. I can use my diy Swope speakers I made in the meantime. Haven't decided yet, started a thread about it. Feel free to weigh in.

Polk LSiM or DIYSG?

Well sold the Polks locally a few days ago. Got enough to cover 1299s for LCR and either some Volt 8s or 10s for the surrounds, plus a little left over for buying wood. See quoted thread for any discussion. Should have a new video up of completed bar soon.

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