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Pretty long video here, but tried to give a start to finish guide on making counter tops. This epoxy coating stuff if pretty cool, so many different techniques and color options. We did the whole bar area for about $600, so quite a savings over actual stone or quartz.



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Awesome work! I had epoxy applied to my basement floor, its all people notice when they come in my basement, its pretty cool stuff.
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Awesome work! I had epoxy applied to my basement floor, its all people notice when they come in my basement, its pretty cool stuff.
Nice! Thanks, it really is cool stuff. Everyone who has seen it in person or in pics have asked what type of stone or marble it is. They are surprised it's epoxy. Can't beat the look for the price

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Nice! Thanks, it really is cool stuff. Everyone who has seen it in person or in pics have asked what type of stone or marble it is. They are surprised it's epoxy. Can't beat the look for the price
This is what I did, people ask if its a marble floor. Price for me was about the same as putting down a wood floor. The material alone was about $1k from sherwin williams with no mark up from installer. While wood floor material cost would have been higher, an epoxy floor is a lot more labor intensive.
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This is what I did, people ask if its a marble floor. Price for me was about the same as putting down a wood floor. The material alone was about $1k from sherwin williams with no mark up from installer. While wood floor material cost would have been higher, an epoxy floor is a lot more labor intensive.
Heck yea, that looks great! Really turned out nice

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Well sold the Polks locally a few days ago. Got enough to cover 1299s for LCR and either some Volt 8s or 10s for the surrounds, plus a little left over for buying wood. See quoted thread for any discussion. Should have a new video up of completed bar soon.
So couldn't get the center channel replacement. I just lost on the KC Area Movie BUT to @chiptouz that you are doing 1299's as well as he is and had been thinking about it for a while. Have fun with the building of them. What are you using for subs again?

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So couldn't get the center channel replacement. I just lost on the KC Area Movie BUT to @chiptouz that you are doing 1299's as well as he is and had been thinking about it for a while. Have fun with the building of them. What are you using for subs again?


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So couldn't get the center channel replacement. I just lost on the KC Area Movie BUT to @chiptouz that you are doing 1299's as well as he is and had been thinking about it for a while. Have fun with the building of them. What are you using for subs again?
Thank you for getting us in touch. I'm sure it will be helpful during the builds.
I've got an Ultimax 15 sealed now. Planning on 1 or 2 hst24s later this year. Was planning sealed, will have to look more into ported for those massive things and see if I have the space

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Thank you for getting us in touch. I'm sure it will be helpful during the builds.
I've got an Ultimax 15 sealed now. Planning on 1 or 2 hst24s later this year. Was planning sealed, will have to look more into ported for those massive things and see if I have the space
Your welcome. By the way check out @d_c 's Basement Build. He has two 24" subs in a ported bar for a midfield sub.

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Cabinets installed and countertops made this week. I'll have the video up soon.



This video is just a quick overview of the Monoprice Amber 8" in-ceiling speaker and some initial impressions. Overall, I gotta say I'm pretty impressed with how well the speaker blends with the Polk LSiM setup I have for the front stage and rear surrounds. If I am only listening to stereo sound from the LSiM 707s and switch to only the in ceiling speakers, obviously there is going to be a difference in sound (mainly bass response which is expected). The highs and mid range (focusing on voices) sound crisp with the Amber speakers, much like the Polks, but don't have as much force and presence as the tower speakers do. Again, no surprise here. If they were just to have some ambient music playing, such as a whole home setup with in ceiling speakers, I think these would fit the bill just fine. I have yet to test them against the Alpha series speakers without the ceiling cans in my bar area, but bass seems decent from the 8 inch speakers. Nothing that will blow your socks off, and you quickly remember what real low frequency response is once you turn on the towers or sub, but sufficient for casual listening.



Now for the real reason they are being used, as a 2 speaker atmos setup in my media area... I honestly think they blend very well with my Polks, even though the tweeters are ribbon compared to the dome tweeters in the Polks. When watching a movie, or more noticeably, an Atmost/DTS X enabled concert blu-ray, the speakers blend in to the sound stage. Everything flowed seamlessly from front to back without hearing any major difference in frequency response or harshness. That was my major concern, the possibility of the ribbons being more harsh than the dome tweeters of the Polks. So far, I have not seemed to notice enough of a difference to say anything negative about the setup. I don't know if the in-ceiling cans were necessary in a home theater setup due to most lower frequencies being managed by the front stage and sub, but thought I would try them out. I'll follow up on the difference with and without the cans soon. I feel most overhead and surround presence is in the mid-to-upper frequency range anyways, so probably not much is gained/lost with the cans and ported feature.



Overall, pretty happy with the setup so far. I need to find some time to rotate the speakers in the ceiling to see if there is any difference in frequency response/presence when listening to the same content since ribbon tweeters have different direction sound that done tweeters. Hope you find the video helpful.


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Great video. Am looking into using these speakers for my media room and my living room and I'm definitely interested in the follow-up video regarding whether the enclosures/cans were a good addition or not. A teaser opinion by way of a reply here would go astray either
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Great video. Am looking into using these speakers for my media room and my living room and I'm definitely interested in the follow-up video regarding whether the enclosures/cans were a good addition or not. A teaser opinion by way of a reply here would go astray either
I really do need to make a follow up on these... Been so busy with finishing things up down there and picking up extra shifts lately. I haven't had time to pull the speakers/cans down to put the plug ports back in, but I'll say this: I don't think these do well ported. After some comparing the 2 in ceiling setups, I found the Alphas without the cans sounded much better than the ported Ambers with cans. Way too boomy midbass, very muddy and unnatural sounding. I am interested to see if plugging the port gives the woofer a better bass/midbass response with the can. I'll try to do that sometime soon and let you know, but that's my thoughts so far. I don't think I noticed it before due to listening to all the speakers for movies/music and the fronts being naturally louder.

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I really do need to make a follow up on these... Been so busy with finishing things up down there and picking up extra shifts lately. I haven't had time to pull the speakers/cans down to put the plug ports back in, but I'll say this: I don't think these do well ported. After some comparing the 2 in ceiling setups, I found the Alphas without the cans sounded much better than the ported Ambers with cans. Way too boomy midbass, very muddy and unnatural sounding. I am interested to see if plugging the port gives the woofer a better bass/midbass response with the can. I'll try to do that sometime soon and let you know, but that's my thoughts so far. I don't think I noticed it before due to listening to all the speakers for movies/music and the fronts being naturally louder.
Lovely - much obliged. Please do keep us posted with updates regarding the porting and use of the cans. For me, I can see minimizing sound leakage as a benefit to using the cans. But if they prove deleterious to the overall sound quality, saving the expense and extra installation time associated with using the cans would be a no brainer.

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Yes, I still need to take some time to compare the in ceiling speakers.... but I made some more progress elsewhere!


Completed getting the cabinets installed, ran LED accent lighting, and wrapped up the trim work.




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Excellent basement build @blister64 . Great job! Video was spot on too. Did Adorama ever send you the new center or replacement drivers? I would have been livid, but yeah stuff happens. I guess for the price a little inconvenience is ok.

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Excellent basement build @blister64 . Great job! Video was spot on too. Did Adorama ever send you the new center or replacement drivers? I would have been livid, but yeah stuff happens. I guess for the price a little inconvenience is ok.

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Thanks man! I read your comment on your thread too. I'm at the in-laws now haha! But here for a wedding and have a packed weekend this time. Would love to meet up and talk over a beer or two! And you are welcome to come anytime to Wichita to do the same. Might be more organized in a few months though haha. Appreciate the kind words... it has been a huge project but I have really enjoyed doing it.
As far as Adorama. No, they never got me a center channel after 4 months. I was using my other diy center for the time being. But obviously sold what I had off and purchased the 1299s. I'll have an unboxing video of everything hopefully in the next week.
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Thanks man! I read your comment on your thread too. I'm at the in-laws now haha! But here for a wedding and have a packed weekend this time. Would love to meet up and talk over a beer or two! And you are welcome to come anytime to Wichita to do the same. Might be more organized in a few months though haha. Appreciate the kind words... it has been a huge project but I have really enjoyed doing it.
As far as Adorama. No, they never got me a center channel after 4 months. I was using my other diy center for the time being. But obviously sold what I had off and purchased the 1299s. I'll have an unboxing video of everything hopefully in the next week.
The 1299's should be a big difference from what you had before. What are you doing for surrounds, Volt 10's. I am liking my old Klipsch speakers for new and will probably stay with them and just add a set surround speakers for the rear channels and wide for Atmos at a later date.
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Yea I got the Volt 10's for surrounds for the 5.x.2 system I'm doing. I currently am running my Diy swope towers and center, and my surrounds are some old HT in a box surrounds from onkyo hahaha. I pretty much can't hear anything behind me, they blow... But soon. It'll be better. My neighbor had a full klipsch system, it sounded pretty darn nice

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You guys already know what happened with the Polk's I had, but wanted to make a short comparison video between the 707s and the swope towers I build 2 years ago and use upstairs. Plus I needed a good way to explain why I sold the Polks and bought something else.


This is not a super technical review. I spent an afternoon listening to things I really know well at this point. Also had a few other people listen to the several clips without knowing which speaker was hooked up. Spoiler, we all liked the Swope towers over the 707s. There were clips that were almost too close to tell the difference, while others were hands down better coming from the diy towers. Clarity and detail were the biggest advantages the Swopes had over the Polks. The 707s had better bass, but it wasn't the cleanest bass. Anyways, don't judge the thumbnail. It's late, I'm tired, I threw it together. Enjoy lol


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Unboxing of the DIYSG 1299 and Volt 10. Couple things to finish up around the house then it's build time. Should be starting early October.

And also a video on how to install and undermount sink. In case anyone was interested....




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Finished up the network rack in my back room.



On a side note, NavePoint seems to be a pretty decent option for racks/rack equipment. I got a second 25u rack as well (next video) and both seem to be good build quality. Everything went together easy, worked as is should, and wasn't extremely expensive.



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On a side note, NavePoint seems to be a pretty decent option for racks/rack equipment. I got a second 25u rack as well (next video) and both seem to be good build quality. Everything went together easy, worked as is should, and wasn't extremely expensive.


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Nice cable management Ryan. Looks nice. I would do that , but with having Google my all in one Modem/Router/DVR it has to be upstairs to get the best coverage.

If you want to know what each cable is without having to go look at a sheet, you could label them with tape labels. We use them in our telecom work to have GC's label all out fiber connections. Here is one that's not to bad priced. My wife has a nicer one for work I may borrow when I get my cables run to there permanent spots in the room.

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@Ladeback thanks man, but I did all the work myself. Gave Ryan the day off. My name is Kyle lol
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@Ladeback thanks man, but I did all the work myself. Gave Ryan the day off. My name is Kyle lol
I have looked at getting one of those label printers... They would be useful for so many things. Maybe soon I'll grab one.
Sorry about that Kyle, it's been a long week and have talked to lot of people for work and guess Ryan was on my mind since I talk to a lot of Ryan's and Justin's.

You build and videos are impressive and are helpful. I want to do the epoxy coating to the counter tops kn our rental before we sell, but the wife is skeptical on it. Looking forward to the speaker build videos.

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Sorry about that Kyle, it's been a long week and have talked to lot of people for work and guess Ryan was on my mind since I talk to a lot of Ryan's and Justin's.

You build and videos are impressive and are helpful. I want to do the epoxy coating to the counter tops kn our rental before we sell, but the wife is skeptical on it. Looking forward to the speaker build videos.
Ha no problem, was just giving you a hard time!
Thanks man. We did a lot of research before deciding to give epoxy a try. Ultimately it was one of those things where we decided that if we didn't like them and wanted something different (granite, quartz), it was only about $600 we'd be out. Granted, that's a lot of money, but when compared to $4000+ quotes for quarts/granite, we thought it was worth the risk. And it paid off, we love them.

That said, I don't know that I would do this in our kitchen for a long term solution. It would see a lot more activity and although it's hard, it's not stone, so it will potentially scratch and show wear over time. For our bar area that see's limited use and doesn't see cutting boards, hot pans, etc. that the kitchen does, I think it will hold up just fine. Also for updating the rental home kitchen, I think it would work fine as well. You should be able to sand whatever counters are currently on there and pour directly over those. Pretty easy way to update the look.

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Finally got stuff up off the floor and organized. Now I can focus on building speakers!!



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As usual great video. What were your thoughts on placing the Yamaha close to the crown amp as heat coming off the Yamaha during movies etc?

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As usual great video. What were your thoughts on placing the Yamaha close to the crown amp as heat coming off the Yamaha during movies etc?
Not too concerned. There's a little space between the two, but not much. The crown vents from the front though and it never really has gotten too hot for me. It's bridged for a single Dayton UM15 so it's not being pushed hard. Had it in the rack for almost 3 weeks. If it was all enclosed like the network rack I used, it'd probly be more of a concern, but no issues as it sits.

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Finally got some time to pull these speakers out of the ceiling and spent some time testing. The optional metal cans from monoprice didn't seem to do much for sound quality, but are helpful for cutting down noise from traveling to the floor above. I didnt like the ports being utilized either, keeping them sealed sounded much more natural.

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