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Which Is More important Dynamic Ratio or the Lumens ? Epson 3800 vs Epson 5050Ub

Hello Enthusiasts !!

Kinda-off confused which one to go with ? mainly battling between Dynamic Ratio vs Lumens ? i.e. mainly comparing between Epson 3800 vs Epson 5050Ub model.

1. Epson 3800 - 3000 Lumens But dynamic ratio is 100,000:1 and price is $1600, whereas
2. Epson 5050Ub - 2600 Lumens but dynamic ratio is 1,000,000:1 and price is $2999

Both have almost same features but then the lumens/dynamic ratio differs.

Huge price difference but wondering which to focus on? Any suggestions from the users ? Kindly let me know.
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Hello Enthusiasts !!

Kinda-off confused which one to go with ? mainly battling between Dynamic Ratio vs Lumens ? i.e. mainly comparing between Epson 3800 vs Epson 5050Ub model.

1. Epson 3800 - 3000 Lumens But dynamic ratio is 100,000:1 and price is $1600, whereas
2. Epson 5050Ub - 2600 Lumens but dynamic ratio is 1,000,000:1 and price is $2999

Both have almost same features but then the lumens/dynamic ratio differs.

Huge price difference but wondering which to focus on? Any suggestions from the users ? Kindly let me know.
Ignore the dynamic ratio/contrast and even lumen values claimed by manufacturers.
Lumen values depend on preset, lamp mode, zoom, distance from screen, etc. They may reach advertised lumens on the highest preset with brightest lamp mode, which often has a green tint.
Lumens values:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Eps...s,-Connections
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Eps...,-Measurements

The 5050UB (Ultra black) has better black level/contrast than the HC3800, if the room allows it, i.e. it has been treated for reflections.
The 5050UB has motorized lenses with memory.
The 5050UB has DCI P3 coverage.
The 5050UB has more lens shift.
The 6050UB has an anamorphic mode.
The 5050UB has better lenses.
The 5050UB has a longer throw range.
And probably other minor features.

LE: What are the color of the walls in the room in which the projector will be placed in?

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1. The color of the wall is Navajo White.

2. BTW, does 5050Ube [wireless] adds value as compared to the 5050Ub version ?
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1. The color of the wall is Navajo White.

2. BTW, does 5050Ube [wireless] adds value as compared to the 5050Ub version ?

The 5050UBe has wireless HDMI.
4K/30 Hz wireless HDMI limit restricts UHD streaming from Netflix, Amazon

The reflections from the walls will affect the blacks/contrast of both the HC3800 and 5050UB.
Room treatment is required with either dark paints or dark fabrics. Including ceiling, floor, and furniture.
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Hello !

Thanks for the suggestion !

BTW, does the contrast provided by 3800 is it good enough for picture clarity ? or will it be like washed out image ?
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Hello !

Thanks for the suggestion !

BTW, does the contrast provided by 3800 is it good enough for picture clarity ? or will it be like washed out image ?
White walls will wash out the contrast and blacks. The image will not be completely washed out, but there will be a difference, particularly with the blacks.

Good article on this issue:
https://projectiondream.com/en/contr...r-environment/
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BTW, does the contrast provided by 3800 is it good enough for picture clarity ? or will it be like washed out image ?
Much of your contrast/black level bump will be wasted with white walls and reflections, so the 3800 might work better for you. I know that the previous version...the 3700 is perfect for my less than perfect room.

You can't trust a picture but I find the 3700's contrast and blacks to be good...not great and would only consider the 5050 if I had a dedicated dark man cave/HT.

This is an old out of date video but it does illustrate the difference that contrast/black levels makes in different settings with the 3800 probably being close to around the middle projector's black level.

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