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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     SIN_CITY
Disc Size:      23,855,581,236 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00002.mpls
Size:           23,772,352,512 bytes
Length:         2:04:02 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  25.55 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00007.M2TS      23,772,352,512  2:04:02.726     0:00:00.000     2:04:02.726     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video    14453 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         4134 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 4134kbps (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 1536kbps)
DTS-HD Master Audio             French          4253 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 4253kbps (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 1536kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         448 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             French          448 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         47.066 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          143.075 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           French          0.318 kbps                      

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          ----            ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:56.583     12,869 kbps     25,865 kbps     00:05:04.596    21,734 kbps     00:05:00.717    20,896 kbps     00:04:55.587    67,094 bytes    285,011 bytes   00:03:15.862    
2               0:06:56.583     0:06:05.031     14,764 kbps     23,409 kbps     00:08:06.653    20,235 kbps     00:08:06.236    18,290 kbps     00:08:14.160    76,971 bytes    290,969 bytes   00:07:15.518    
3               0:13:01.614     0:06:33.685     14,146 kbps     30,726 kbps     00:16:18.186    29,493 kbps     00:16:16.851    28,509 kbps     00:16:11.846    73,750 bytes    305,454 bytes   00:14:18.274    
4               0:19:35.299     0:06:40.567     14,029 kbps     31,113 kbps     00:22:25.803    26,515 kbps     00:22:21.799    25,253 kbps     00:22:16.794    73,139 bytes    273,257 bytes   00:24:03.442    
5               0:26:15.866     0:06:41.568     16,394 kbps     37,906 kbps     00:30:32.164    35,480 kbps     00:30:21.862    34,090 kbps     00:30:57.689    85,473 bytes    297,813 bytes   00:26:34.051    
6               0:32:57.434     0:06:44.696     13,922 kbps     27,711 kbps     00:39:10.848    24,045 kbps     00:35:51.649    22,772 kbps     00:35:49.731    72,585 bytes    327,817 bytes   00:38:47.367    
7               0:39:42.130     0:06:29.639     12,798 kbps     23,337 kbps     00:44:55.484    19,388 kbps     00:44:25.705    18,697 kbps     00:44:19.740    66,723 bytes    351,821 bytes   00:44:56.444    
8               0:46:11.769     0:06:26.261     15,083 kbps     24,716 kbps     00:46:49.473    21,673 kbps     00:46:48.472    20,523 kbps     00:49:22.459    78,637 bytes    277,370 bytes   00:46:44.218    
9               0:52:38.030     0:06:12.247     15,470 kbps     30,976 kbps     00:56:19.876    24,557 kbps     00:54:45.699    21,404 kbps     00:55:09.056    80,655 bytes    311,540 bytes   00:53:08.310    
10              0:58:50.277     0:06:22.215     16,195 kbps     31,995 kbps     01:03:58.793    27,720 kbps     00:58:55.365    22,983 kbps     01:00:43.014    84,432 bytes    276,442 bytes   01:01:35.442    
11              1:05:12.492     0:06:22.716     18,364 kbps     36,589 kbps     01:10:31.185    28,712 kbps     01:07:59.075    27,386 kbps     01:07:58.866    95,744 bytes    286,940 bytes   01:10:31.978    
12              1:11:35.208     0:06:14.374     16,813 kbps     35,147 kbps     01:15:09.964    31,738 kbps     01:15:06.877    29,838 kbps     01:15:01.831    87,653 bytes    306,127 bytes   01:15:11.757    
13              1:17:49.582     0:07:20.648     18,094 kbps     39,370 kbps     01:19:10.329    34,824 kbps     01:19:10.037    28,443 kbps     01:17:54.169    94,336 bytes    289,539 bytes   01:18:01.135    
14              1:25:10.230     0:06:31.183     13,320 kbps     31,697 kbps     01:25:26.496    28,362 kbps     01:25:25.078    25,546 kbps     01:25:20.073    69,444 bytes    254,791 bytes   01:25:42.929    
15              1:31:41.413     0:06:11.913     13,884 kbps     28,337 kbps     01:32:56.571    23,199 kbps     01:32:52.901    21,239 kbps     01:32:48.521    72,384 bytes    308,931 bytes   01:31:45.458    
16              1:37:53.326     0:05:08.183     15,131 kbps     25,311 kbps     01:41:39.510    21,912 kbps     01:41:05.685    19,978 kbps     01:41:34.171    78,884 bytes    303,365 bytes   01:42:41.155    
17              1:43:01.509     0:05:11.019     11,980 kbps     20,783 kbps     01:48:11.485    17,447 kbps     01:48:07.523    16,200 kbps     01:48:02.518    62,460 bytes    403,754 bytes   01:45:29.198    
18              1:48:12.528     0:05:35.376     14,825 kbps     24,426 kbps     01:48:12.986    21,517 kbps     01:49:59.676    20,894 kbps     01:50:00.594    77,292 bytes    301,318 bytes   01:50:01.637    
19              1:53:47.904     0:03:54.276     13,297 kbps     24,523 kbps     01:53:58.290    21,863 kbps     01:53:54.745    20,343 kbps     01:54:20.062    69,325 bytes    259,539 bytes   01:56:40.535    
20              1:57:42.180     0:06:20.547     6,585 kbps      45,391 kbps     02:03:51.341    35,526 kbps     02:03:47.420    19,097 kbps     02:03:42.498    34,329 bytes    389,236 bytes   02:03:51.841    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Lang. Code      Lang. Name      Seconds         Bytes           Packets         Bitrate         
----            ---             ----            -----           ----------      ----------      -------         -----           -------         -------         
00007.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                             7442.73         13,446,166,038  73,181,218      14,453          
00007.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng             English         7442.73         3,846,102,092   22,063,417      4,134           
00007.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       fra             French          7442.73         3,956,647,212   22,663,796      4,253           
00007.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             eng             English         7442.73         416,794,112     2,325,860       448             
00007.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             fra             French          7442.73         416,795,904     2,325,870       448             
00007.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng             English         7442.73         43,787,445      251,199         47              
00007.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             fra             French          7442.73         133,108,845     751,927         143             
00007.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             fra             French          7442.73         295,559         1,679           0
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     GNXF_1010
Disc Size:      48,606,246,814 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.1

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00001.MPLS
Size:                   36,565,327,872 bytes
Length:                 2:04:01 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:          39.31 Mbps
Description:            

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        28363 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         2400 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2400 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Japanese        2396 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2396 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         35.359 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        24.035 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        0.079 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        32.490 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        38.142 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00001.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:04:01.434     36,565,327,872  39,310          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:02:58.011     24,546 kbps     49,634 kbps     00:00:14.014    40,805 kbps     00:00:10.385    36,282 kbps     00:02:08.795    127,944 bytes   639,138 bytes   00:00:25.525    
2               0:02:58.011     0:01:51.486     17,883 kbps     43,534 kbps     00:03:57.278    33,876 kbps     00:02:58.303    30,252 kbps     00:02:58.011    93,231 bytes    634,590 bytes   00:03:47.352    
3               0:04:49.497     0:08:11.282     32,821 kbps     51,885 kbps     00:10:00.474    42,174 kbps     00:06:56.124    40,053 kbps     00:10:00.474    171,116 bytes   712,629 bytes   00:09:53.050    
4               0:13:00.779     0:03:36.925     27,746 kbps     54,534 kbps     00:14:45.342    41,485 kbps     00:16:09.426    39,481 kbps     00:16:09.426    144,657 bytes   609,785 bytes   00:16:34.660    
5               0:16:37.704     0:01:58.201     24,248 kbps     38,612 kbps     00:16:42.042    32,130 kbps     00:16:38.455    28,251 kbps     00:16:37.705    126,417 bytes   500,318 bytes   00:17:19.329    
6               0:18:35.906     0:05:57.398     26,553 kbps     49,981 kbps     00:20:14.296    42,341 kbps     00:20:14.254    39,770 kbps     00:19:35.132    138,434 bytes   669,309 bytes   00:22:02.029    
7               0:24:33.305     0:05:47.138     25,247 kbps     42,770 kbps     00:24:48.445    38,172 kbps     00:27:22.390    35,143 kbps     00:27:19.888    131,625 bytes   700,594 bytes   00:27:13.006    
8               0:30:20.443     0:04:02.450     27,209 kbps     46,272 kbps     00:31:02.777    41,272 kbps     00:31:02.777    40,265 kbps     00:30:56.980    141,857 bytes   640,360 bytes   00:34:19.098    
9               0:34:22.894     0:09:27.942     26,845 kbps     48,279 kbps     00:37:18.736    41,800 kbps     00:35:30.336    39,554 kbps     00:35:26.499    139,959 bytes   778,339 bytes   00:38:00.945    
10              0:43:50.836     0:03:26.623     26,164 kbps     50,193 kbps     00:44:21.784    42,270 kbps     00:44:24.370    39,144 kbps     00:44:21.784    136,406 bytes   700,667 bytes   00:44:56.652    
11              0:47:17.459     0:04:39.070     33,567 kbps     47,487 kbps     00:47:46.989    42,220 kbps     00:50:23.353    39,777 kbps     00:50:18.432    175,004 bytes   563,958 bytes   00:51:42.766    
12              0:51:56.529     0:03:14.652     28,985 kbps     48,857 kbps     00:52:09.584    41,919 kbps     00:52:05.539    37,905 kbps     00:53:13.273    151,114 bytes   572,153 bytes   00:54:39.025    
13              0:55:11.182     0:03:38.676     29,240 kbps     49,438 kbps     00:57:20.145    42,118 kbps     00:55:30.827    38,444 kbps     00:58:14.157    152,446 bytes   550,977 bytes   00:58:17.118    
14              0:58:49.859     0:03:30.376     29,769 kbps     48,339 kbps     00:59:42.161    39,445 kbps     01:00:04.017    35,389 kbps     01:00:04.058    155,202 bytes   597,066 bytes   01:00:54.233    
15              1:02:20.236     0:05:08.808     32,596 kbps     60,908 kbps     01:03:58.334    41,976 kbps     01:03:25.218    39,989 kbps     01:02:29.203    169,940 bytes   644,826 bytes   01:02:34.125    
16              1:07:29.044     0:04:18.549     32,202 kbps     57,722 kbps     01:07:44.769    42,446 kbps     01:08:21.680    38,916 kbps     01:09:08.727    167,888 bytes   645,334 bytes   01:10:58.045    
17              1:11:47.594     0:05:24.032     30,276 kbps     58,948 kbps     01:13:54.555    42,633 kbps     01:16:41.430    39,714 kbps     01:16:43.056    157,845 bytes   582,591 bytes   01:14:42.686    
18              1:17:11.626     0:02:57.927     33,973 kbps     56,816 kbps     01:18:50.308    41,480 kbps     01:19:09.786    38,189 kbps     01:19:09.786    177,120 bytes   538,616 bytes   01:20:00.212    
19              1:20:09.554     0:06:19.879     32,721 kbps     59,305 kbps     01:25:50.937    42,531 kbps     01:23:40.348    40,031 kbps     01:25:25.537    170,594 bytes   583,438 bytes   01:24:07.876    
20              1:26:29.434     0:03:40.970     29,183 kbps     57,190 kbps     01:28:43.860    38,853 kbps     01:28:10.868    36,671 kbps     01:29:33.576    152,148 bytes   750,628 bytes   01:28:44.152    
21              1:30:10.404     0:03:09.272     28,233 kbps     53,525 kbps     01:31:08.838    41,377 kbps     01:30:56.909    38,761 kbps     01:31:17.430    147,192 bytes   692,623 bytes   01:31:40.995    
22              1:33:19.677     0:03:53.775     29,817 kbps     48,116 kbps     01:35:02.071    41,636 kbps     01:35:33.227    39,614 kbps     01:36:03.716    155,454 bytes   765,749 bytes   01:35:02.154    
23              1:37:13.452     0:05:00.216     33,350 kbps     51,049 kbps     01:41:50.604    42,344 kbps     01:40:49.376    40,039 kbps     01:39:27.586    173,870 bytes   672,336 bytes   01:37:57.997    
24              1:42:13.668     0:07:02.630     31,132 kbps     49,484 kbps     01:46:59.329    41,845 kbps     01:44:34.893    39,311 kbps     01:46:42.270    162,307 bytes   742,234 bytes   01:46:02.898    
25              1:49:16.299     0:05:20.194     30,785 kbps     53,666 kbps     01:54:11.344    42,189 kbps     01:49:59.259    39,423 kbps     01:49:54.129    160,496 bytes   639,651 bytes   01:52:37.250    
26              1:54:36.494     0:02:06.835     32,436 kbps     45,763 kbps     01:55:14.699    41,858 kbps     01:55:39.182    39,440 kbps     01:55:34.177    169,107 bytes   651,246 bytes   01:54:57.223    
27              1:56:43.329     0:00:57.807     29,067 kbps     42,475 kbps     01:56:49.502    40,158 kbps     01:56:49.502    38,307 kbps     01:56:48.710    151,544 bytes   502,083 bytes   01:57:30.752    
28              1:57:41.137     0:06:19.295     5,957 kbps      51,694 kbps     02:03:50.548    41,278 kbps     02:03:46.919    22,881 kbps     02:03:45.918    31,056 bytes    396,389 bytes   02:03:50.965    
29              2:04:00.432     0:00:01.001     97 kbps         0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    527 bytes       749 bytes       02:04:00.599    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00001.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     7441.309                28,364                  26,382,884,059  143,489,280     
00001.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x83            TrueHD          eng (English)           7441.309                3,040                   2,827,938,598   21,448,468      
00001.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x83            TrueHD          jpn (Japanese)          7441.309                3,036                   2,824,206,744   21,448,918      
00001.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           7441.309                256                     238,127,104     1,395,276       
00001.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           7441.309                256                     238,127,104     1,395,276       
00001.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          7441.309                24                      22,357,114      134,769         
00001.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          7441.309                0                       73,243          455             
00001.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           7441.309                35                      32,890,364      192,412         
00001.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          7441.309                32                      30,221,342      176,247         
00001.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          7441.309                38                      35,478,439      207,669
Canada:

Japan:


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Japan:


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The Scandinavian release is probably automatically out of the running for most people due to the huuuuggeee red tint. I was going to include the 1080p h264 cap too but I really can't remember what hard drive it's on right now. Hopefully this at least demonstrates the shortcomings of the Canadian release...
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Thanks for the comparison.
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Someones been running rampant with the DNR switch!
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House,

You mentioned that the Japanese release of Sin City is the best version available but the above caps doesn't seem to reflect the same. Anything wrong ?

Blu-ray : 340
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House,

You mentioned that the Japanese release of Sin City is the best version available but the above caps doesn't seem to reflect the same. Anything wrong ?

Nothing wrong from where I'm sitting. Sure you're viewing them in the correct order?
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Looks like the default gamma / black levels are slightly better on the Canadian BD.

Blu-ray : 340
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Looks like the default gamma / black levels are slightly better on the Canadian BD.

I don't really agree about the black levels. The JP has deeper ones without clipping or crushing anything.
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It looks like compression may be the problem with the Canadian release, not DNR. The posterisation on the 4th picture from Canada is pretty bad, but the Japan release shows a little also.
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Wow, what's the chance that the eventual US release would be different from the Canadian release? It would be nice if they could port over the Japanese encode, but probably very little chance of that...

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Is the Japan release region locked?

I am annoyed, just bought the Canadian one..

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Huge difference in texture. The Canadian release really looks like a poor DivX re-encode in comparison, while the Japanese one is pretty much perfect (apart from the aliasing in the Marv shot, but that's a source issue.) Will be seriously disappointing if the eventual Disney release looks more like former than the latter.
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The main difference I see is contrast. The level of detail doesn't seem any better on the japanese version. Though the shadow detail on the Canadian release seems to have an advantage.

Edit: I just checked the pic with Brittany Murphy, and it seems to show the biggest difference.

Does the Japanese version seem to have a purplish cast to it?
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SC was shot on digital HD video so I doubt they used DNR.
Didn't see any at all watching the candaia.
To me the background of the Brittany shot looks noisier in the JP version. There is no film grain involved so that ain't grain. Maybe artificial grain for artistic reasons?
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one good difference i notice is in del toro's forehead, on the canada it's a much smoother image. glad that's the one i purchased!
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SC was shot on digital HD video so I doubt they used DNR.
Didn't see any at all watching the candaia.
To me the background of the Brittany shot looks noisier in the JP version. There is no film grain involved so that ain't grain.

Lot of digital productions add artificial grain, 300 anyone?

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SC was shot on digital HD video so I doubt they used DNR.

Actually HD cameras have DNR in the camera itself. There is actually several different types of noise reductions. Its very rare that its completly "DNR free".
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Huge difference in texture. The Canadian release really looks like a poor DivX re-encode in comparison, while the Japanese one is pretty much perfect (apart from the aliasing in the Marv shot, but that's a source issue.) Will be seriously disappointing if the eventual Disney release looks more like former than the latter.

And the hyperbole award goes too...

Some perspective, people.
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The Canadian release obviously has been Warner'ed...
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Wow, what's the chance that the eventual US release would be different from the Canadian release? It would be nice if they could port over the Japanese encode, but probably very little chance of that...

Actually, since the Canadian release is from Alliance and the US release will be from Buena Vista, there's pretty much no chance that they will be the same.
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A) Where did you guys import the Japanese version from ?

B) Anything indicating this will be released in the US ?
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Actually, since the Canadian release is from Alliance and the US release will be from Buena Vista, there's pretty much no chance that they will be the same.

Well that would have been my thinking regarding GONY. When the UK release came out and was derided,(rightfully so), it was said 'No way the US release will look the same!" Wrong! It does look the same, so that master was obviously passed from pillar to post.
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B) Anything indicating this will be released in the US ?

There were trailers on older Buena Vista blu-rays, but they the new ones havent been showing it. Not sure if they are waiting for Sin City 2, or if they are going to release it during a time they feel they can get guaranteed sales. If i were to guess, I'd say May of 2009.... but it's just a wild guess.
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Is Sin City 2 still a go? I heard the old stories of it being delayed because Angelina Jolie was pregnant, and was earmarked for a key role. Any truth in this?
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I don't really agree about the black levels. The JP has deeper ones without clipping or crushing anything.

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Huge difference in texture. The Canadian release really looks like a poor DivX re-encode in comparison, while the Japanese one is pretty much perfect (apart from the aliasing in the Marv shot, but that's a source issue.) Will be seriously disappointing if the eventual Disney release looks more like former than the latter.

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The main difference I see is contrast. The level of detail doesn't seem any better on the japanese version. Though the shadow detail on the Canadian release seems to have an advantage.

Does the Japanese version seem to have a purplish cast to it?

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Actually HD cameras have DNR in the camera itself. There is actually several different types of noise reductions. Its very rare that its completly "DNR free".

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The Canadian release obviously has been Warner'ed...

Thanks a lot friends for your valuable comments. Will order the JP version tomorrow.

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Lot of digital productions add artificial grain, 300 anyone?

300 was filmed in Super-35.

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A) Where did you guys import the Japanese version from ?

This is available on amazon.co.jp...but it is $60 USD shipped.
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300 was filmed in Super-35.

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And the hyperbole award goes too...

Some perspective, people.

Well, OK, maybe a little. But the differences are similar if you compare for example a DVD and a DVD-rip. Detail on characters and objects are usually close, but out-of-focus backgrounds and such turn into a smooth sea of mush/blocks on the re-encode, which is what it looks like has happened here.
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But grain in 300 is not from the film but added as a digital effect in post production.

No doubt, and this looks to be the same. I agree with posters above though. I don't think noise reduction was deliberately applied, instead being more a case of the encoder simply being unable to keep up at the bitrate given.
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Is Sin City 2 still a go? I heard the old stories of it being delayed because Angelina Jolie was pregnant, and was earmarked for a key role. Any truth in this?

Last I heard, it's still a go (2010?) - Robert Rodriquez is currently involved with directing the re-make of Barbarella.

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