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It's the audio mix for this particular Blu-ray release I have a problem with. The dialog is so much lower than the background sound effects and music. Crank things up to hear the dialog, and then blow out your speakers when a gun battle happens.
Typical Michael Mann mix, right there.
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Never seen Avatar. But Heat on Blu-ray looked brown and soft and fuzzy and unclear. That is opposite to what a high def Blu-ray should be.
You might want to get your display professionally calibrated as if anything it looked a bit more teal (per director's guidance) vs brown. I watched it at 124" on a JVC RS4810 paired with a Stewart ST100 screen and it was not fuzzy and unclear. Yes, it does have a bit of a softer look and a bit grainy but that is the way it was made. Not every movie is going to be or supposed to be razor sharp and grainless.
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It's the audio mix for this particular Blu-ray release I have a problem with. The dialog is so much lower than the background sound effects and music. Crank things up to hear the dialog, and then blow out your speakers when a gun battle happens.
Not to sound like an ass but why don't you just raise the center channel?
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Not to sound like an ass but why don't you just raise the center channel?
Because that will not change the balance between dialog and music/sfx.
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Typical Michael Mann mix, right there.
It's not just this, there are a lot of movies where the dynamic range works in a large commerical theater but in a home setting you had better keep the remote for the volume handy. A prime offender would be Star Trek Into Darkness, love the movie but the dynamic range is just crazy for the average sized room.
Of course there is always crank it and go deaf option. Oblivion anyone?

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Actually, STID is just plain loud which is different from dynamic. Tons of clipping too which compounds the loudness effect.
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It's not just this, there are a lot of movies where the dynamic range works in a large commerical theater but in a home setting you had better keep the remote for the volume handy. A prime offender would be Star Trek Into Darkness, love the movie but the dynamic range is just crazy for the average sized room.
Of course there is always crank it and go deaf option. Oblivion anyone?
I run into this issue more likely than I want. I also suffer from Tinnitus (ear ringing) and anything over 85db or so is generally not recommended in terms of protecting your hearing, so I do have to turn it down then back up at times dependingon the movie. Some movies it's not an issue, but on others it can be pain. I think because my theater room is relatively small doesn't help either.
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Heat - Director's Cut - has received a 4K re-master courtesy of WB and will be released next year on BD and likely UHD-BD. The UK BD release has already been put out, for Feb 6th.
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Want a UHD with Atmos or DTS:X
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What mix was used for this?
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Got Heat on Blu several years ago (in a two-pack set that came with the Goodfellas Blu). Not sure which version I have, given that this film has been released on Blu almost as often as most people change their socks But, I know it's an older version due to the Special Features menu, etc.

In any case, I've never see it on Blu - until now. Wow. This is truly an incredible experience, and seeing this in glorious HD definitely elevates this to one of the top ten best films ever made.

Technical review:

The PQ is, overall, significantly better than the DVD. I'm very impressed with the sharpness throughout most of the film - well done.

I didn't see a lot of difference in the color (from the DVD), but this makes perfect sense since this is not a colorful, vibrant movie. Even the day-time scenes are - in many cases - intentionally dark-ish/gloomy. And, the film's color pallet intentionally consists of primarily black, white, gray, and tan/brown.

The film:

Epic in scope, with an amazing ensemble. This is an extremely well-done crime drama. Perfect casting for every character - from the largest role to the smallest cameo. I also found the plot, cinematography, and editing flawless. Mid-'90's Los Angeles (and the surrounding areas) may as well have been another character in the film.

Heat also features an amazing ambient score throughout; this is subtle & understated through most of the film. And, it culminates in the finale, with Moby's iconic track God Moving Over the Face of the Waters. Also notable is the instrumental of Moby's cover version of New Dawn Fades (originally written & performed by Joy Division) as Vincent Hanna (Pacino) pursues McCauley (DeNiro) on the freeway @ night.

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Side-note: This Blu is the version without the "detritus" line. On the old DVD, the scene when Vincent Hanna has that conversation (in the restaurant) with his soon-to-be estranged wife Justine (Diane Venora), she used the word "detritus" when she was talking to Vincent about his job. I don't know if any other Blu version of the film also includes this word in the dialogue, but it's not in this version.

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