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Reference PQ and AQ.

In terms of PQ among the best ever produced. Personally if I'm going to demo my HT to someone this is the title along with Grand Canyon Adventure -*- River at Risk 3D IMAX to use to show it off. The image is just pure eye candy. The colors, contrast and the depth of field is outstanding.

I will rank the audio with Pirates of the Caribbean: AT World's End and Rambo as the most active surround soundtrack I ever heard. Bass effects are plentiful. My twin subs really filled up my room. If you have the HK version it has:

Code:
Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      Chinese         6144 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 6144 kbps / 16-bit
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         2587 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 2587 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Chinese         1996 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 1996 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)

If you want to sample those codecs at reference level then be my guest. Just make sure your audio setup can handle it

So which one is the best version? All I can say is don't even consider buying the dumbed down One disc International version. The SE UK version is more affordable than the HK version but you don't get all three HD audio. To most people this is a non-issue but to some especially AVS they gotta have them all


Update:

US Original International Version is as good as the UK SE version. The Taiwan version is at 16:9 AR. The PQ is similar to the US and UK.
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Blu-ray International Version File size: 34.80 GB

Bitrate: 28.89 mbps AVC


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:27:39 37,442,813,952  40,796,918,384  33.81   29.89   DTS-HD Master 5.1 2216Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     RED CLIFF INTERNAT VERSION
Disc Size:      40,796,918,384 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:27:39 (h:m:s)
Size:                   37,442,813,952 bytes
Total Bitrate:          33.81 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        29885 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         2216 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2216 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         0.000 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:27:39.958     37,442,813,952  33,809          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:09:28.458     30,024 kbps     48,201 kbps     00:01:09.416    43,080 kbps     00:03:37.250    39,722 kbps     00:03:37.249    156,364 bytes   438,977 bytes   00:03:18.208    
2               0:09:28.458     0:09:59.875     29,619 kbps     46,861 kbps     00:17:46.166    38,492 kbps     00:17:42.250    36,651 kbps     00:10:27.416    154,264 bytes   374,718 bytes   00:18:36.458    
3               0:19:28.333     0:10:05.666     29,697 kbps     46,950 kbps     00:25:18.624    40,507 kbps     00:20:01.708    39,689 kbps     00:19:56.583    154,674 bytes   426,148 bytes   00:19:57.708    
4               0:29:34.000     0:12:52.000     28,816 kbps     47,172 kbps     00:33:05.041    42,003 kbps     00:33:04.083    37,209 kbps     00:39:36.666    150,081 bytes   402,338 bytes   00:30:09.000    
5               0:42:26.000     0:12:07.416     34,718 kbps     46,411 kbps     00:43:33.541    41,799 kbps     00:43:32.958    39,214 kbps     00:43:32.333    180,824 bytes   406,455 bytes   00:42:43.000    
6               0:54:33.416     0:04:48.416     27,503 kbps     47,062 kbps     00:55:43.041    41,358 kbps     00:55:42.541    38,138 kbps     00:55:41.541    143,245 bytes   373,982 bytes   00:55:04.208    
7               0:59:21.833     0:12:51.041     31,972 kbps     47,715 kbps     00:59:42.416    42,346 kbps     00:59:39.083    39,141 kbps     00:59:36.333    166,521 bytes   410,647 bytes   01:00:51.208    
8               1:12:12.875     0:06:01.125     30,261 kbps     48,992 kbps     01:12:20.375    40,339 kbps     01:12:18.125    36,681 kbps     01:12:18.583    157,608 bytes   371,948 bytes   01:17:39.708    
9               1:18:14.000     0:13:56.500     29,759 kbps     46,679 kbps     01:26:19.791    41,320 kbps     01:24:39.833    38,077 kbps     01:24:39.500    154,997 bytes   430,102 bytes   01:29:48.541    
10              1:32:10.500     0:09:52.875     29,964 kbps     47,741 kbps     01:32:12.416    41,512 kbps     01:32:12.416    38,165 kbps     01:32:12.416    156,060 bytes   427,783 bytes   01:35:50.625    
11              1:42:03.375     0:07:07.625     29,011 kbps     48,641 kbps     01:48:59.375    41,352 kbps     01:42:05.875    36,738 kbps     01:43:01.458    151,100 bytes   398,654 bytes   01:42:52.916    
12              1:49:11.000     0:13:29.250     32,936 kbps     46,194 kbps     01:51:18.500    41,636 kbps     01:51:15.791    38,341 kbps     01:51:15.750    171,543 bytes   387,966 bytes   01:58:13.000    
13              2:02:40.250     0:08:45.208     33,726 kbps     45,194 kbps     02:02:54.875    40,071 kbps     02:04:50.875    36,998 kbps     02:04:48.958    175,654 bytes   381,965 bytes   02:04:52.125    
14              2:11:25.458     0:08:45.083     33,027 kbps     47,515 kbps     02:19:30.000    39,301 kbps     02:19:29.041    36,651 kbps     02:19:28.750    172,016 bytes   392,429 bytes   02:18:33.625    
15              2:20:10.541     0:01:22.958     28,215 kbps     38,751 kbps     02:20:29.208    35,658 kbps     02:20:11.916    33,076 kbps     02:20:10.583    146,953 bytes   351,098 bytes   02:20:46.583    
16              2:21:33.500     0:06:06.458     5,005 kbps      13,014 kbps     02:24:22.541    11,192 kbps     02:24:21.333    9,789 kbps      02:24:19.541    26,070 bytes    219,324 bytes   02:24:23.583    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8859.833                29,886                  33,097,705,466  180,003,746     
00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           8859.833                2,216                   2,453,670,220   14,714,063      
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8859.833                0                       145             8



Blu-ray Special Edition File Size Disc 1 size: 34.80 GB

Bitrate: 28.83 mbps AVC


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:25:08 36,553,469,952  37,540,610,202  33.58   29.83   DTS-HD Master 5.1 2051Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     RED CLIFF SE DISC 1
Disc Size:      37,540,610,202 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:25:08 (h:m:s)
Size:                   36,553,469,952 bytes
Total Bitrate:          33.58 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        29828 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         2051 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2051 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         0.000 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:25:08.916     36,553,469,952  33,578          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:07:46.375     21,501 kbps     47,388 kbps     00:07:25.750    38,418 kbps     00:07:23.833    35,572 kbps     00:07:23.625    111,973 bytes   399,669 bytes   00:06:12.125    
2               0:07:46.375     0:09:36.125     32,637 kbps     45,926 kbps     00:13:47.083    40,829 kbps     00:13:46.875    38,340 kbps     00:13:43.625    169,983 bytes   375,313 bytes   00:09:47.333    
3               0:17:22.500     0:10:09.708     33,655 kbps     46,128 kbps     00:25:29.708    39,081 kbps     00:25:25.958    36,886 kbps     00:23:42.833    175,287 bytes   352,067 bytes   00:24:09.875    
4               0:27:32.208     0:11:18.333     28,636 kbps     45,011 kbps     00:37:53.708    37,802 kbps     00:37:50.625    35,142 kbps     00:27:46.791    149,146 bytes   369,967 bytes   00:32:39.333    
5               0:38:50.541     0:11:35.666     30,846 kbps     47,156 kbps     00:39:27.875    41,148 kbps     00:47:49.083    38,498 kbps     00:39:19.083    160,654 bytes   400,416 bytes   00:40:21.583    
6               0:50:26.208     0:09:18.416     31,101 kbps     45,183 kbps     00:54:23.625    39,776 kbps     00:54:21.000    36,602 kbps     00:54:16.125    161,982 bytes   442,199 bytes   00:58:15.250    
7               0:59:44.625     0:13:40.625     29,813 kbps     46,675 kbps     01:03:10.541    41,944 kbps     01:10:07.500    38,850 kbps     01:03:10.125    155,276 bytes   370,652 bytes   01:02:10.375    
8               1:13:25.250     0:09:55.500     31,304 kbps     45,114 kbps     01:18:34.958    40,442 kbps     01:18:31.916    39,386 kbps     01:18:26.791    163,044 bytes   435,362 bytes   01:16:54.625    
9               1:23:20.750     0:06:28.333     31,887 kbps     45,410 kbps     01:23:20.750    40,357 kbps     01:23:20.750    37,257 kbps     01:23:20.791    166,078 bytes   384,814 bytes   01:29:44.083    
10              1:29:49.083     0:06:05.666     29,833 kbps     45,887 kbps     01:33:56.125    41,601 kbps     01:30:26.125    37,611 kbps     01:30:25.083    155,381 bytes   372,007 bytes   01:35:32.083    
11              1:35:54.750     0:21:28.083     34,482 kbps     45,600 kbps     01:36:46.416    42,341 kbps     01:36:42.958    39,034 kbps     01:36:42.291    179,594 bytes   364,370 bytes   01:49:43.375    
12              1:57:22.833     0:12:26.791     29,775 kbps     47,587 kbps     01:58:28.625    41,160 kbps     01:58:28.583    38,074 kbps     01:58:27.416    155,077 bytes   356,583 bytes   02:00:35.583    
13              2:09:49.625     0:02:03.500     27,566 kbps     36,741 kbps     02:10:18.624    31,222 kbps     02:10:45.666    30,340 kbps     02:10:42.791    143,575 bytes   331,754 bytes   02:10:22.375    
14              2:11:53.125     0:02:57.416     30,315 kbps     43,221 kbps     02:14:24.374    36,567 kbps     02:13:25.833    35,637 kbps     02:13:26.958    157,891 bytes   331,800 bytes   02:14:49.541    
15              2:14:50.541     0:03:17.000     32,521 kbps     45,618 kbps     02:16:13.499    42,130 kbps     02:14:59.291    39,093 kbps     02:14:57.499    169,383 bytes   384,271 bytes   02:17:54.541    
16              2:18:07.541     0:07:01.375     9,324 kbps      19,615 kbps     02:21:40.500    17,998 kbps     02:21:42.958    17,897 kbps     02:21:38.500    48,567 bytes    279,876 bytes   02:21:40.541    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8708.792                29,828                  32,471,075,924  176,595,882     
00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           8708.792                2,051                   2,232,405,980   13,494,977      
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8708.792                0                       145             8



Blu-ray Special Edition File Size Disc 2 size: 35.80 GB

Bitrate: 29.90 mbps AVC


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:21:08 35,730,800,640  38,451,877,674  33.76   29.90   DTS-HD Master 5.1 2155Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     RED CLIFF SE DISC 2
Disc Size:      38,451,877,674 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:21:08 (h:m:s)
Size:                   35,730,800,640 bytes
Total Bitrate:          33.76 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        29895 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         2155 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2155 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         0.000 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:21:08.166     35,730,800,640  33,755          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:10:41.250     30,553 kbps     48,224 kbps     00:08:34.208    39,965 kbps     00:08:40.791    37,866 kbps     00:02:42.291    159,121 bytes   395,384 bytes   00:06:40.916    
2               0:10:41.250     0:07:51.500     31,194 kbps     47,719 kbps     00:17:45.666    38,549 kbps     00:12:14.000    37,619 kbps     00:12:08.083    162,469 bytes   429,592 bytes   00:12:06.583    
3               0:18:32.750     0:12:19.333     31,165 kbps     48,991 kbps     00:19:40.541    42,446 kbps     00:22:33.875    39,667 kbps     00:22:31.041    162,318 bytes   454,345 bytes   00:27:03.958    
4               0:30:52.083     0:07:01.458     27,125 kbps     46,269 kbps     00:33:41.916    39,818 kbps     00:33:40.916    36,521 kbps     00:33:40.916    141,278 bytes   370,385 bytes   00:37:04.541    
5               0:37:53.541     0:16:40.583     28,589 kbps     47,129 kbps     00:42:44.208    38,478 kbps     00:44:35.375    36,495 kbps     00:50:02.166    148,901 bytes   396,329 bytes   00:44:39.708    
6               0:54:34.125     0:07:25.333     30,969 kbps     46,955 kbps     00:57:53.000    41,412 kbps     00:54:35.458    36,686 kbps     00:55:11.875    161,295 bytes   381,785 bytes   01:01:19.458    
7               1:01:59.458     0:09:17.250     30,682 kbps     47,342 kbps     01:06:56.083    41,756 kbps     01:04:36.541    37,588 kbps     01:04:34.666    159,802 bytes   462,660 bytes   01:08:48.166    
8               1:11:16.708     0:11:51.375     30,548 kbps     49,028 kbps     01:17:33.000    42,135 kbps     01:21:30.500    38,495 kbps     01:11:18.541    159,105 bytes   431,491 bytes   01:16:44.500    
9               1:23:08.083     0:12:09.791     27,961 kbps     46,440 kbps     01:29:27.833    41,797 kbps     01:29:24.250    36,887 kbps     01:32:53.041    145,632 bytes   435,502 bytes   01:32:57.333    
10              1:35:17.875     0:02:48.166     27,295 kbps     48,287 kbps     01:36:44.000    36,985 kbps     01:36:41.458    34,576 kbps     01:37:26.875    142,160 bytes   359,611 bytes   01:36:43.083    
11              1:38:06.041     0:10:54.416     32,243 kbps     46,606 kbps     01:39:03.166    40,885 kbps     01:39:00.500    38,123 kbps     01:39:00.416    167,935 bytes   391,940 bytes   01:46:11.166    
12              1:49:00.458     0:10:43.708     33,474 kbps     45,596 kbps     01:52:25.166    39,646 kbps     01:54:22.458    36,542 kbps     01:54:21.583    174,342 bytes   394,968 bytes   01:54:23.708    
13              1:59:44.166     0:07:36.624     34,016 kbps     46,918 kbps     02:04:19.041    40,780 kbps     02:04:19.041    38,142 kbps     02:04:19.041    177,167 bytes   386,043 bytes   02:05:36.291    
14              2:07:20.791     0:06:58.916     32,416 kbps     46,011 kbps     02:13:39.999    40,997 kbps     02:13:38.958    38,023 kbps     02:13:38.958    168,834 bytes   381,681 bytes   02:12:43.875    
15              2:14:19.708     0:01:50.791     29,509 kbps     39,351 kbps     02:14:55.624    35,867 kbps     02:14:19.708    35,431 kbps     02:14:19.958    153,691 bytes   390,063 bytes   02:14:56.500    
16              2:16:10.500     0:04:57.666     10,522 kbps     21,099 kbps     02:19:09.583    18,681 kbps     02:19:07.958    18,040 kbps     02:19:06.583    54,808 bytes    290,083 bytes   02:19:10.625    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8468.000                29,896                  31,644,612,554  172,100,878     
00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           8468.000                2,155                   2,281,100,372   13,713,307      
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8468.000                0                       145             8



Blu-ray Hong Kong Disc 1 File size: 39.90 GB

Bitrate: 24.80 mbps AVC


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:25:21 42,890,151,936  46,615,517,714  39.34   24.80   LPCM 7.1 6144Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)          DTS-HD Master 7.1 2587Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     
Disc Size:      46,615,517,714 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:25:21 (h:m:s)
Size:                   42,890,151,936 bytes
Total Bitrate:          39.34 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        24798 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      Chinese         6144 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 6144 kbps / 16-bit
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         2587 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 2587 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Chinese         1996 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 1996 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         26.302 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         19.281 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         18.640 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:25:21.041     42,890,151,936  39,344          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:08:17.750     21,672 kbps     31,597 kbps     00:03:59.625    29,785 kbps     00:03:50.250    29,511 kbps     00:03:50.625    112,866 bytes   440,640 bytes   00:01:00.000    
2               0:08:17.750     0:09:05.958     28,140 kbps     33,434 kbps     00:15:03.791    30,093 kbps     00:12:17.208    29,698 kbps     00:12:12.083    146,561 bytes   487,126 bytes   00:13:58.333    
3               0:17:23.708     0:07:18.708     27,549 kbps     33,760 kbps     00:18:15.791    29,756 kbps     00:20:08.291    29,571 kbps     00:19:05.875    143,487 bytes   411,105 bytes   00:17:44.083    
4               0:24:42.416     0:07:18.583     26,860 kbps     34,386 kbps     00:27:49.708    29,665 kbps     00:25:50.250    29,534 kbps     00:27:40.708    139,894 bytes   357,439 bytes   00:31:10.333    
5               0:32:01.000     0:06:18.000     24,545 kbps     31,314 kbps     00:33:27.500    29,799 kbps     00:33:23.500    27,994 kbps     00:33:21.625    127,838 bytes   341,004 bytes   00:33:17.041    
6               0:38:19.000     0:06:06.375     27,121 kbps     32,289 kbps     00:40:14.875    29,965 kbps     00:40:10.916    29,674 kbps     00:40:05.958    141,256 bytes   429,926 bytes   00:38:33.208    
7               0:44:25.375     0:05:57.541     28,275 kbps     33,395 kbps     00:49:41.500    30,082 kbps     00:49:24.541    29,616 kbps     00:45:17.416    147,266 bytes   485,822 bytes   00:49:29.291    
8               0:50:22.916     0:09:22.500     24,624 kbps     32,375 kbps     00:54:20.083    29,791 kbps     00:51:02.666    29,465 kbps     00:55:03.833    128,252 bytes   506,224 bytes   00:58:34.875    
9               0:59:45.416     0:04:01.041     23,820 kbps     30,781 kbps     01:03:05.666    29,625 kbps     01:03:03.041    29,456 kbps     01:02:56.291    124,065 bytes   332,026 bytes   01:03:08.708    
10              1:03:46.458     0:10:49.166     24,067 kbps     36,810 kbps     01:11:55.000    30,826 kbps     01:11:50.916    30,094 kbps     01:11:46.000    125,348 bytes   366,680 bytes   01:12:31.625    
11              1:14:35.625     0:03:52.166     24,747 kbps     31,234 kbps     01:15:13.791    29,626 kbps     01:16:19.958    29,446 kbps     01:16:14.291    128,893 bytes   278,948 bytes   01:16:54.666    
12              1:18:27.791     0:07:25.625     25,653 kbps     31,431 kbps     01:24:57.416    29,587 kbps     01:18:44.041    29,326 kbps     01:23:22.375    133,611 bytes   369,754 bytes   01:25:35.000    
13              1:25:53.416     0:09:08.708     25,396 kbps     34,948 kbps     01:31:28.958    29,716 kbps     01:30:39.500    29,420 kbps     01:28:04.666    132,270 bytes   603,199 bytes   01:26:15.750    
14              1:35:02.125     0:07:43.125     27,275 kbps     34,676 kbps     01:39:03.375    30,311 kbps     01:41:07.291    29,720 kbps     01:41:02.250    142,058 bytes   430,364 bytes   01:41:11.875    
15              1:42:45.250     0:06:12.500     28,082 kbps     34,059 kbps     01:48:19.541    30,067 kbps     01:48:41.541    29,715 kbps     01:48:36.416    146,260 bytes   333,617 bytes   01:48:46.291    
16              1:48:57.750     0:08:28.208     28,379 kbps     35,575 kbps     01:57:24.833    30,766 kbps     01:57:20.833    29,842 kbps     01:49:16.750    147,809 bytes   455,821 bytes   01:49:26.583    
17              1:57:25.958     0:03:39.916     25,034 kbps     31,083 kbps     02:00:42.708    29,671 kbps     02:00:41.208    29,317 kbps     02:00:37.708    130,388 bytes   379,401 bytes   02:00:42.750    
18              2:01:05.875     0:10:54.500     21,901 kbps     29,898 kbps     02:08:45.750    28,744 kbps     02:08:45.708    26,810 kbps     02:03:39.666    114,066 bytes   362,493 bytes   02:12:00.291    
19              2:12:00.375     0:05:52.708     26,185 kbps     33,510 kbps     02:17:15.708    29,732 kbps     02:16:35.500    29,584 kbps     02:16:30.416    136,381 bytes   331,993 bytes   02:12:01.291    
20              2:17:53.083     0:07:27.958     8,936 kbps      30,289 kbps     02:17:54.541    26,470 kbps     02:17:57.916    24,443 kbps     02:17:53.166    46,544 bytes    403,107 bytes   02:21:48.791    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8720.875                24,798                  27,032,751,869  147,039,425     
00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x80            LPCM            zho (Chinese)           8720.875                6,151                   6,704,739,396   36,628,389      
00000.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           8720.875                2,587                   2,820,260,320   16,688,665      
00000.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x83            TrueHD          zho (Chinese)           8720.875                2,636                   2,873,144,954   22,329,674      
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           8720.875                19                      21,018,546      123,362         
00000.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           8720.875                19                      20,320,321      119,570         
00000.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8720.875                26                      28,672,318      164,951



Blu-ray Hong Kong Disc 2 File size: 40.70 GB

Bitrate: 26.16 mbps AVC

Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00007.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:21:18 43,733,563,392  46,876,340,248  41.27   26.16   LPCM 7.1 6144Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)          DTS-HD Master 7.1 2856Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     
Disc Size:      46,876,340,248 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00007.MPLS
Length:                 2:21:18 (h:m:s)
Size:                   43,733,563,392 bytes
Total Bitrate:          41.27 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        26161 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      Chinese         6144 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 6144 kbps / 16-bit
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         2856 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 2856 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Chinese         2140 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 2140 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         21.435 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         18.205 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         17.151 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00007.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:21:18.458     43,733,563,392  41,266          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:12.666     25,881 kbps     34,869 kbps     00:04:15.791    30,223 kbps     00:06:04.916    29,960 kbps     00:03:38.125    134,784 bytes   488,295 bytes   00:06:09.750    
2               0:06:12.666     0:07:07.249     26,265 kbps     34,168 kbps     00:13:17.083    30,164 kbps     00:10:51.875    29,962 kbps     00:12:29.250    136,794 bytes   542,207 bytes   00:06:42.041    
3               0:13:19.916     0:09:26.000     26,543 kbps     36,436 kbps     00:13:54.333    30,691 kbps     00:13:59.541    30,272 kbps     00:13:45.333    138,245 bytes   420,092 bytes   00:14:04.416    
4               0:22:45.916     0:06:40.708     26,330 kbps     35,183 kbps     00:24:11.083    30,095 kbps     00:28:31.833    29,858 kbps     00:28:27.833    137,134 bytes   398,667 bytes   00:28:50.416    
5               0:29:26.625     0:08:27.250     25,918 kbps     31,338 kbps     00:30:57.125    30,112 kbps     00:30:37.333    30,037 kbps     00:30:32.458    134,991 bytes   315,270 bytes   00:30:57.500    
6               0:37:53.875     0:04:18.625     22,249 kbps     31,755 kbps     00:41:55.083    29,972 kbps     00:42:07.500    28,474 kbps     00:41:47.041    115,880 bytes   387,596 bytes   00:41:54.333    
7               0:42:12.500     0:08:07.500     26,518 kbps     34,188 kbps     00:44:46.583    30,193 kbps     00:47:41.625    29,849 kbps     00:47:42.750    138,114 bytes   413,107 bytes   00:44:47.541    
8               0:50:20.000     0:07:53.250     28,281 kbps     34,306 kbps     00:56:07.458    30,542 kbps     00:56:03.500    30,043 kbps     00:51:25.333    147,298 bytes   388,349 bytes   00:57:56.041    
9               0:58:13.250     0:05:24.875     25,677 kbps     32,068 kbps     01:03:21.541    30,237 kbps     01:03:17.500    29,965 kbps     00:58:22.375    133,734 bytes   391,070 bytes   01:02:02.458    
10              1:03:38.125     0:07:39.375     26,629 kbps     36,910 kbps     01:07:39.250    30,338 kbps     01:06:56.666    29,999 kbps     01:08:03.083    138,694 bytes   328,823 bytes   01:08:09.583    
11              1:11:17.500     0:05:43.833     26,561 kbps     32,985 kbps     01:14:55.000    30,411 kbps     01:16:31.958    29,844 kbps     01:11:17.541    138,339 bytes   423,527 bytes   01:16:34.416    
12              1:17:01.333     0:06:16.083     27,033 kbps     33,486 kbps     01:17:03.583    30,324 kbps     01:17:22.833    29,865 kbps     01:22:30.250    140,797 bytes   420,761 bytes   01:17:28.833    
13              1:23:17.416     0:08:03.708     25,463 kbps     31,982 kbps     01:23:54.625    30,094 kbps     01:28:46.833    29,883 kbps     01:28:41.833    132,617 bytes   351,942 bytes   01:28:49.541    
14              1:31:21.125     0:06:46.208     24,818 kbps     32,367 kbps     01:35:50.958    30,232 kbps     01:32:59.291    30,005 kbps     01:32:22.416    129,261 bytes   310,681 bytes   01:36:18.708    
15              1:38:07.333     0:09:58.666     26,348 kbps     36,138 kbps     01:43:23.625    30,414 kbps     01:38:41.416    29,817 kbps     01:42:31.708    137,230 bytes   350,446 bytes   01:46:23.791    
16              1:48:06.000     0:10:46.666     27,445 kbps     35,953 kbps     01:58:14.875    30,795 kbps     01:57:08.958    30,159 kbps     01:57:04.166    142,945 bytes   353,487 bytes   01:57:49.416    
17              1:58:52.666     0:15:40.333     29,479 kbps     36,183 kbps     02:04:38.125    30,879 kbps     02:04:34.166    30,237 kbps     02:04:29.125    153,538 bytes   384,154 bytes   02:13:39.000    
18              2:14:33.000     0:06:45.458     16,371 kbps     36,817 kbps     02:15:05.500    31,261 kbps     02:15:01.583    30,450 kbps     02:14:56.541    85,275 bytes    483,255 bytes   02:15:06.416    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00007.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8478.375                26,161                  27,725,617,294  150,801,420     
00007.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x80            LPCM            zho (Chinese)           8478.375                6,150                   6,518,240,048   35,609,532      
00007.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           8478.375                2,856                   3,026,628,732   17,772,897      
00007.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x83            TrueHD          zho (Chinese)           8478.375                2,780                   2,945,813,050   22,958,962      
00007.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           8478.375                18                      19,293,717      113,191         
00007.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           8478.375                17                      18,177,215      107,128         
00007.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8478.375                21                      22,717,188      131,798



Blu-ray Taiwan Version Disc 1 File size: 40.20 GB

Bitrate: 23.80 mbps AVC


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00003.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:25:18 43,243,474,944  47,384,828,854  39.68   23.80   LPCM 7.1 6144Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)          DTS-HD Master 7.1 2477Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     
Disc Size:      47,384,828,854 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00003.MPLS
Length:                 2:25:18 (h:m:s)
Size:                   43,243,474,944 bytes
Total Bitrate:          39.68 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        23804 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      Chinese         6144 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 6144 kbps / 16-bit
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         2477 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 2477 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Chinese         3187 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 3187 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB)
Dolby Digital Audio             Chinese         448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         28.168 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         25.232 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00003.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:25:18.541     43,243,474,944  39,680          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:02:46.791     11,124 kbps     32,710 kbps     00:01:02.749    29,506 kbps     00:00:59.750    27,059 kbps     00:00:55.374    57,925 bytes    590,283 bytes   00:01:01.500    
2               0:02:46.791     0:10:53.375     26,633 kbps     42,241 kbps     00:04:36.166    31,660 kbps     00:03:29.916    30,002 kbps     00:03:25.291    138,713 bytes   561,323 bytes   00:05:16.041    
3               0:13:40.166     0:10:01.041     26,373 kbps     33,801 kbps     00:18:26.416    29,898 kbps     00:18:36.541    29,677 kbps     00:18:36.541    137,359 bytes   438,543 bytes   00:17:32.500    
4               0:23:41.208     0:08:32.791     24,692 kbps     42,425 kbps     00:29:36.624    33,192 kbps     00:29:36.458    29,496 kbps     00:30:12.166    128,602 bytes   545,828 bytes   00:26:03.333    
5               0:32:14.000     0:11:30.041     24,179 kbps     42,543 kbps     00:42:28.166    33,503 kbps     00:39:03.541    31,281 kbps     00:38:20.125    125,931 bytes   568,607 bytes   00:42:28.208    
6               0:43:44.041     0:10:01.791     25,930 kbps     41,613 kbps     00:53:19.083    34,515 kbps     00:43:47.000    30,359 kbps     00:43:44.166    135,050 bytes   550,024 bytes   00:50:26.750    
7               0:53:45.833     0:10:00.624     22,749 kbps     39,671 kbps     01:00:15.625    32,667 kbps     01:02:45.583    30,377 kbps     01:02:57.375    118,487 bytes   750,067 bytes   00:58:16.708    
8               1:03:46.458     0:09:36.875     22,902 kbps     40,653 kbps     01:10:20.583    33,280 kbps     01:07:39.791    31,295 kbps     01:07:39.125    119,282 bytes   507,459 bytes   01:12:57.833    
9               1:13:23.333     0:10:06.541     23,696 kbps     40,586 kbps     01:18:28.500    34,360 kbps     01:23:22.666    30,995 kbps     01:18:28.500    123,414 bytes   432,981 bytes   01:13:29.291    
10              1:23:29.875     0:09:30.041     24,098 kbps     41,001 kbps     01:30:18.000    33,007 kbps     01:30:16.291    29,968 kbps     01:30:11.250    125,511 bytes   684,167 bytes   01:30:18.041    
11              1:32:59.916     0:10:10.708     25,815 kbps     45,044 kbps     01:33:04.125    34,035 kbps     01:35:55.958    31,220 kbps     01:35:55.833    134,452 bytes   531,118 bytes   01:33:04.416    
12              1:43:10.625     0:10:43.916     26,953 kbps     35,262 kbps     01:44:57.291    30,339 kbps     01:52:03.625    29,690 kbps     01:52:03.625    140,378 bytes   444,837 bytes   01:52:03.666    
13              1:53:54.541     0:12:30.333     23,149 kbps     41,332 kbps     02:00:42.916    34,003 kbps     02:00:41.625    31,285 kbps     02:00:38.625    120,567 bytes   520,139 bytes   02:00:43.166    
14              2:06:24.875     0:11:48.750     23,094 kbps     46,802 kbps     02:12:01.166    33,729 kbps     02:16:18.416    31,532 kbps     02:16:17.833    120,282 bytes   630,458 bytes   02:12:01.208    
15              2:18:13.625     0:07:04.916     13,259 kbps     27,553 kbps     02:21:51.750    25,551 kbps     02:21:50.791    24,466 kbps     02:21:48.000    69,065 bytes    425,743 bytes   02:21:52.625    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00003.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8718.375                23,804                  25,941,853,924  141,111,128     
00003.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x80            LPCM            zho (Chinese)           8718.375                6,151                   6,702,844,304   36,618,036      
00003.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x83            TrueHD          zho (Chinese)           8718.375                3,635                   3,961,706,614   28,113,058      
00003.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           8718.375                2,477                   2,699,871,796   16,033,365      
00003.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             zho (Chinese)           8718.375                448                     488,241,152     2,724,560       
00003.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           8718.375                25                      27,498,641      158,398         
00003.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8718.375                28                      30,697,716      175,785
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title:
Disc Size: 47,384,828,854 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00003.MPLS
Size: 43,243,474,944 bytes
Length: 2:25:18
Total Bitrate: 39.68 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 23804 kbps / 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Chinese / LPCM Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 6144 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: Chinese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 2477 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Audio: Chinese / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 3187 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB)
Audio: Chinese / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Subtitle: English / 28.168 kbps
Subtitle: Chinese / 25.232 kbps



Blu-ray Taiwan Version Disc 2 File size: 39.8 GB

Bitrate: 25.00 mbps AVC


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00003.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:21:18 42,812,626,944  47,688,568,043  40.40   25.00   LPCM 7.1 6144Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)          DTS-HD Master 7.1 2909Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     
Disc Size:      47,688,568,043 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00003.MPLS
Length:                 2:21:18 (h:m:s)
Size:                   42,812,626,944 bytes
Total Bitrate:          40.40 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        25000 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      Chinese         6144 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 6144 kbps / 16-bit
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         2909 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 2909 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Chinese         2398 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 2398 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         27.649 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         26.035 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00003.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:21:18.083     42,812,626,944  40,398          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:02:36.458     23,187 kbps     43,575 kbps     00:00:14.583    34,594 kbps     00:00:11.583    29,805 kbps     00:00:13.083    120,734 bytes   477,692 bytes   00:00:14.083    
2               0:02:36.458     0:09:23.916     26,805 kbps     49,519 kbps     00:11:24.708    36,513 kbps     00:02:44.958    33,713 kbps     00:10:17.083    139,609 bytes   725,461 bytes   00:11:24.750    
3               0:12:00.375     0:10:31.000     26,899 kbps     48,065 kbps     00:12:06.666    33,869 kbps     00:17:19.000    32,064 kbps     00:14:54.625    140,098 bytes   556,189 bytes   00:15:43.958    
4               0:22:31.375     0:09:28.333     26,202 kbps     46,496 kbps     00:29:24.041    36,309 kbps     00:28:17.083    31,911 kbps     00:30:05.124    136,467 bytes   537,355 bytes   00:27:36.083    
5               0:31:59.708     0:09:41.583     20,058 kbps     45,344 kbps     00:33:44.041    33,442 kbps     00:38:53.625    30,788 kbps     00:33:43.124    104,467 bytes   485,819 bytes   00:37:03.625    
6               0:41:41.291     0:11:35.791     24,810 kbps     47,644 kbps     00:50:16.166    36,429 kbps     00:45:58.708    32,874 kbps     00:47:13.708    129,220 bytes   670,720 bytes   00:53:16.125    
7               0:53:17.083     0:08:43.458     25,559 kbps     42,158 kbps     00:57:31.375    36,434 kbps     00:57:31.375    33,148 kbps     00:57:31.375    133,121 bytes   635,183 bytes   01:02:00.541    
8               1:02:00.541     0:12:48.166     26,688 kbps     48,606 kbps     01:06:58.125    36,193 kbps     01:06:58.166    33,059 kbps     01:06:58.166    138,998 bytes   570,453 bytes   01:02:02.791    
9               1:14:48.708     0:08:19.458     26,760 kbps     48,685 kbps     01:20:34.958    36,225 kbps     01:16:32.125    33,025 kbps     01:21:28.666    139,373 bytes   584,164 bytes   01:17:21.916    
10              1:23:08.166     0:09:13.333     24,501 kbps     43,695 kbps     01:30:34.208    36,340 kbps     01:32:13.500    32,895 kbps     01:28:41.708    127,607 bytes   539,905 bytes   01:28:42.583    
11              1:32:21.500     0:09:44.000     24,228 kbps     46,299 kbps     01:36:44.125    35,677 kbps     01:36:44.125    32,976 kbps     01:36:44.125    126,190 bytes   472,022 bytes   01:36:44.166    
12              1:42:05.500     0:10:10.750     26,424 kbps     42,188 kbps     01:42:30.250    34,269 kbps     01:51:29.750    32,552 kbps     01:51:47.375    137,624 bytes   479,913 bytes   01:46:23.916    
13              1:52:16.250     0:10:48.666     27,130 kbps     47,447 kbps     01:54:32.791    33,771 kbps     01:56:04.625    31,464 kbps     01:53:39.458    141,300 bytes   519,020 bytes   01:57:49.458    
14              2:03:04.916     0:13:15.958     25,805 kbps     49,426 kbps     02:15:03.416    36,434 kbps     02:12:42.625    32,560 kbps     02:09:38.333    134,401 bytes   629,358 bytes   02:15:03.458    
15              2:16:20.875     0:04:57.208     10,737 kbps     21,392 kbps     02:19:20.000    19,042 kbps     02:19:18.541    18,425 kbps     02:19:17.750    55,931 bytes    386,914 bytes   02:19:20.875    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00003.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8478.000                25,001                  26,494,315,593  144,110,199     
00003.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x80            LPCM            zho (Chinese)           8478.000                6,150                   6,517,951,748   35,607,957      
00003.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x83            TrueHD          zho (Chinese)           8478.000                3,038                   3,219,422,228   24,584,367      
00003.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           8478.000                2,909                   3,082,809,160   18,067,581      
00003.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           8478.000                26                      27,590,684      159,487         
00003.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8478.000                28                      29,301,037      168,774

QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title:
Disc Size: 47,688,568,043 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00003.MPLS
Size: 42,812,626,944 bytes
Length: 2:21:18
Total Bitrate: 40.40 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 25000 kbps / 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Chinese / LPCM Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 6144 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: Chinese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 2909 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Audio: Chinese / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 2398 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
Subtitle: English / 27.649 kbps
Subtitle: Chinese / 26.035 kbps




Blu-ray Original International Version US Part 1 File size: 33.70 GB

Bitrate: 27.54 mbps VC-1


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      VC-1    2:25:24 36,213,915,648  48,035,301,631  33.20   27.54   DTS-HD Master 5.1 3893Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     RED_CLIFF_INT_PART_1
Disc Size:      48,035,301,631 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:25:24 (h:m:s)
Size:                   36,213,915,648 bytes
Total Bitrate:          33.20 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
VC-1 Video              27541 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         3893 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3893 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         27.403 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         28.866 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         27.307 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:25:24.966     36,213,915,648  33,205          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:10:19.827     28,636 kbps     50,513 kbps     00:08:10.781    41,594 kbps     00:07:24.026    39,043 kbps     00:04:53.835    150,081 bytes   615,806 bytes   00:04:35.525    
2               0:10:19.827     0:07:06.592     31,464 kbps     52,164 kbps     00:14:45.801    40,337 kbps     00:15:01.025    38,455 kbps     00:16:14.139    164,040 bytes   668,033 bytes   00:17:22.207    
3               0:17:26.420     0:10:08.691     33,881 kbps     52,787 kbps     00:20:01.533    40,477 kbps     00:24:13.118    38,806 kbps     00:19:52.941    176,641 bytes   643,460 bytes   00:26:18.410    
4               0:27:35.111     0:11:19.887     23,057 kbps     46,938 kbps     00:27:44.037    39,629 kbps     00:27:40.950    35,297 kbps     00:27:39.074    120,210 bytes   667,772 bytes   00:29:41.488    
5               0:38:54.999     0:11:31.023     27,657 kbps     52,342 kbps     00:40:01.982    40,086 kbps     00:39:27.531    37,186 kbps     00:40:00.106    144,191 bytes   714,052 bytes   00:48:01.670    
6               0:50:26.023     0:09:22.561     27,972 kbps     51,452 kbps     00:54:21.216    40,578 kbps     00:51:05.979    37,107 kbps     00:56:13.495    145,867 bytes   637,505 bytes   00:53:46.264    
7               0:59:48.585     0:04:37.568     24,533 kbps     44,880 kbps     01:03:27.553    39,430 kbps     01:03:26.469    38,674 kbps     01:03:26.469    128,057 bytes   533,884 bytes   01:03:09.952    
8               1:04:26.153     0:09:04.585     26,997 kbps     50,766 kbps     01:12:38.187    39,637 kbps     01:09:15.025    37,611 kbps     01:09:15.442    140,751 bytes   678,179 bytes   01:11:32.663    
9               1:13:30.739     0:05:01.801     30,237 kbps     47,472 kbps     01:16:27.666    40,001 kbps     01:16:24.538    37,885 kbps     01:16:24.538    157,644 bytes   519,265 bytes   01:15:17.930    
10              1:18:32.541     0:07:26.028     25,562 kbps     49,610 kbps     01:18:57.649    38,967 kbps     01:18:54.730    36,503 kbps     01:18:33.375    133,456 bytes   590,247 bytes   01:25:38.800    
11              1:25:58.570     0:09:15.263     26,278 kbps     49,090 kbps     01:28:14.247    39,562 kbps     01:29:46.005    36,446 kbps     01:29:41.876    137,012 bytes   708,623 bytes   01:30:22.500    
12              1:35:13.833     0:13:36.023     33,834 kbps     53,327 kbps     01:37:55.077    41,059 kbps     01:38:43.208    39,036 kbps     01:38:37.703    176,393 bytes   648,005 bytes   01:46:17.579    
13              1:48:49.856     0:08:44.232     34,908 kbps     50,314 kbps     01:50:18.987    41,075 kbps     01:49:42.284    38,723 kbps     01:49:13.255    181,994 bytes   624,674 bytes   01:50:45.138    
14              1:57:34.088     0:12:30.541     26,036 kbps     45,115 kbps     02:08:22.986    37,033 kbps     02:08:20.818    33,473 kbps     02:01:27.530    135,814 bytes   530,371 bytes   02:00:48.950    
15              2:10:04.630     0:08:18.080     25,083 kbps     51,932 kbps     02:18:05.235    39,635 kbps     02:17:21.483    37,687 kbps     02:16:53.747    131,653 bytes   573,843 bytes   02:17:10.680    
16              2:18:22.711     0:07:02.255     8,052 kbps      17,951 kbps     02:21:57.300    17,395 kbps     02:21:55.507    16,412 kbps     02:21:52.378    42,172 bytes    418,640 bytes   02:21:56.925    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0xEA            VC-1                                    8724.883                27,541                  30,036,562,086  163,368,364     
00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           8724.883                3,893                   4,245,766,036   24,435,321      
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8724.883                27                      29,886,728      170,023         
00000.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8724.883                29                      31,481,904      179,076         
00000.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8724.883                27                      29,781,140      169,055

QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: RED_CLIFF_INT_PART_1
Disc Size: 48,035,301,631 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 36,213,915,648 bytes
Length: 2:25:24
Total Bitrate: 33.20 Mbps
Video: VC-1 Video / 27541 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3
Audio: Chinese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3893 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Subtitle: English / 27.403 kbps
Subtitle: English / 28.866 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 27.307 kbps




Blu-ray Original International Version US Part 2 File size: 33.20 GB

Bitrate: 27.73 mbps VC-1


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      VC-1    2:21:30 35,672,248,320  47,268,471,242  33.61   27.73   DTS-HD Master 5.1 4093Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     RED_CLIFF_INT_PART_2
Disc Size:      47,268,471,242 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:21:30 (h:m:s)
Size:                   35,672,248,320 bytes
Total Bitrate:          33.61 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
VC-1 Video              27727 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         4093 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 4093 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         27.089 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         27.863 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         29.435 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:21:30.982     35,672,248,320  33,610          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:12:10.896     26,808 kbps     56,542 kbps     00:01:39.432    40,642 kbps     00:10:27.335    38,954 kbps     00:03:26.956    139,994 bytes   786,050 bytes   00:01:06.649    
2               0:12:10.896     0:10:44.977     27,107 kbps     53,819 kbps     00:18:01.038    40,668 kbps     00:12:31.000    38,211 kbps     00:17:52.029    141,322 bytes   574,206 bytes   00:12:46.557    
3               0:22:55.874     0:06:38.898     26,390 kbps     53,064 kbps     00:24:17.914    40,242 kbps     00:24:13.910    37,784 kbps     00:24:11.241    137,584 bytes   552,982 bytes   00:28:30.583    
4               0:29:34.773     0:08:19.498     28,103 kbps     49,814 kbps     00:33:53.740    40,068 kbps     00:33:50.737    37,131 kbps     00:33:48.651    146,516 bytes   427,120 bytes   00:31:36.519    
5               0:37:54.272     0:09:29.902     28,100 kbps     50,663 kbps     00:40:04.693    37,811 kbps     00:44:45.516    34,879 kbps     00:44:48.185    146,500 bytes   567,061 bytes   00:42:55.739    
6               0:47:24.174     0:07:25.736     20,526 kbps     43,272 kbps     00:50:26.815    34,141 kbps     00:51:54.277    28,812 kbps     00:48:47.299    107,015 bytes   535,460 bytes   00:51:57.322    
7               0:54:49.911     0:08:53.950     25,587 kbps     51,218 kbps     00:54:57.210    40,935 kbps     00:55:54.225    37,324 kbps     00:56:34.516    133,400 bytes   551,715 bytes   00:55:55.894    
8               1:03:43.861     0:07:46.883     29,637 kbps     53,088 kbps     01:08:08.000    39,978 kbps     01:04:54.765    38,176 kbps     01:04:52.471    154,511 bytes   611,733 bytes   01:09:01.011    
9               1:11:30.744     0:12:05.683     25,315 kbps     49,430 kbps     01:15:05.125    38,801 kbps     01:22:50.757    35,553 kbps     01:22:47.754    131,981 bytes   611,006 bytes   01:17:45.494    
10              1:23:36.428     0:07:00.044     29,171 kbps     43,971 kbps     01:25:32.377    40,913 kbps     01:25:31.793    37,326 kbps     01:24:20.180    152,085 bytes   463,719 bytes   01:24:38.823    
11              1:30:36.472     0:08:14.785     31,696 kbps     49,686 kbps     01:38:48.923    39,970 kbps     01:38:01.667    38,808 kbps     01:37:41.438    165,248 bytes   552,609 bytes   01:32:34.757    
12              1:38:51.258     0:06:17.085     35,530 kbps     52,574 kbps     01:43:37.586    40,461 kbps     01:41:05.893    38,928 kbps     01:42:01.740    185,237 bytes   640,748 bytes   01:42:44.157    
13              1:45:08.343     0:07:18.813     35,430 kbps     49,540 kbps     01:45:45.213    41,447 kbps     01:47:37.576    39,474 kbps     01:48:10.150    184,714 bytes   540,235 bytes   01:46:37.933    
14              1:52:27.157     0:12:59.904     32,457 kbps     55,422 kbps     01:55:32.926    41,307 kbps     01:53:36.017    38,714 kbps     01:59:57.148    169,215 bytes   758,608 bytes   01:52:38.793    
15              2:05:27.061     0:11:09.335     27,874 kbps     48,225 kbps     02:15:21.321    40,731 kbps     02:14:43.700    38,618 kbps     02:07:20.299    145,322 bytes   696,209 bytes   02:15:22.197    
16              2:16:36.396     0:04:54.585     6,457 kbps      12,652 kbps     02:19:35.492    11,919 kbps     02:19:33.656    11,390 kbps     02:19:31.738    33,891 bytes    348,099 bytes   02:19:36.618    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0xEA            VC-1                                    8490.857                27,727                  29,428,440,216  160,059,948     
00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       zho (Chinese)           8490.857                4,093                   4,344,658,668   24,935,716      
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8490.857                27                      28,751,601      164,868         
00000.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8490.857                28                      29,572,737      169,483         
00000.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8490.857                29                      31,241,780      178,450

QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: RED_CLIFF_INT_PART_2
Disc Size: 47,268,471,242 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 35,672,248,320 bytes
Length: 2:21:30
Total Bitrate: 33.61 Mbps
Video: VC-1 Video / 27727 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3
Audio: Chinese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4093 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Subtitle: English / 27.089 kbps
Subtitle: English / 27.863 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 29.435 kbps

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Is it just me or does the dirt look a little browner in the Blu-ray IV UK version? (I'm talking about the first comparison shot.)
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Is it just me or does the dirt look a little browner in the Blu-ray IV UK version? (I'm talking about the first comparison shot.)

The colour seems to of been brighten up a bit for that version, and the other 2 look a bit more saturated in the warm/brownish colour. The SE UK (which i need to watch soon) Looks to be the best of the 3 Blu-ray discs. The grain looks a bit more natural (HK looks a bit noisy. Shot 2 with the dirt being kicked up)

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Thank you for this great comparison Xylon,

The UK SE version looks slightly better in terms of detail, specially in that bed shot.

On the other hand, the HK disc has better colors and the framing looks slightly less zoomed in.
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I wonder if the lower bitrate due to putting in 3 lossless audio tracks may be affecting the HK version's video quality. They all look really great though, I still wouldn't trade my HK BDs for the UK ones which have cuts for animal cruelty.
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The International UK version is smoothed over in comparison to the other two.
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The International UK version is smoothed over in comparison to the other two.

I disagree. I have Red Cliff 1 (HK), Red Cliff 2 (Taiwan Open Matte) and Red Cliff 1/2 (UK). The UK BD is clearly the best in terms of overall PQ.

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Quite a few HK releases seem to have suffered from having too many lossless tracks crammed on. The UK version of Flashpoint beats the HK version hands down IMO.
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I've looked at these now on a more critical monitor and the SE UK edition has the best picture quality. It holds the grain much better and has an equal amount of color saturation to the HK edition.

Is it cut though?

What are the plans for a US release?
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I disagree. I have Red Cliff 1 (HK), Red Cliff 2 (Taiwan Open Matte) and Red Cliff 1/2 (UK). The UK BD is clearly the best in terms of overall PQ.

Ironic how I usually stay out of these minute comparison threads but the first time I feel the need to comment we are in complete disagreement.

The Inter. UK disc clearly has some smoothing going on and it stuck out immediately to me compared to the HK and UK SE. Look at the facial close up shot and its plain as day in the International version...less pore detail...borderline waxy...
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Anyone have a link or can PM me a link with a good place to order these?

They should play on a US PS3 right? How about a Panny BR Player?

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I wonder if the lower bitrate due to putting in 3 lossless audio tracks may be affecting the HK version's video quality.

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Quite a few HK releases seem to have suffered from having too many lossless tracks crammed on.

Look at the actual numbers. According to the info above the AVC movie file sizes are 4-5GB larger in the UK SE compared to the HK discs while the latter both have c.10GB spare even with three lossless 7.1 tracks. They clearly aren't short of space. The question is why waste it.

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Ironic how I usually stay out of these minute comparison threads but the first time I feel the need to comment we are in complete disagreement.

The Inter. UK disc clearly has some smoothing going on and it stuck out immediately to me compared to the HK and UK SE. Look at the facial close up shot and its plain as day in the International version...less pore detail...borderline waxy...

I completely agree. That close up face shot is a dead give away.

It looks, to me, like the UK SE might actually be slightly better than the HK version. Looking on my 50" plasma. They look very similar though. I'll keep my HK version.
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I completely agree. That close up face shot is a dead give away.

It looks, to me, like the UK SE might actually be slightly better than the HK version. Looking on my 50" plasma. They look very similar though. I'll keep my HK version.

UK SE is the best, but I think HK would be even better if they would drop some audio, give few Mbit for video and use better encoder.

This is very good example of compressionist skills. SE version is better encoded- I think different encoder than HK version or person.

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The U.K. special edition is as close to perfection for reference picture quality as live-action film can be at 1080p. I have not seen the other versions, but it would be hard to improve on by any quantifiable measure. Thanks for the comparisons, Xylon.

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UK SE is the best, but I think HK would be even better if they would drop some audio, give few Mbit for video and use better encoder.

This is very good example of compressionist skills. SE version is better encoded- I think different encoder than HK version or person.

Please explain why you still think the extra lossless audio tracks are restricting the video encoding here: as I said before, there is enough spare space (10GB) in the HK discs for the 5GB or so file size increase to match the UK SE disc files. Looking at it another way, there is c.15GB spare space in the UK SE discs, enough to fit two more encoded lossless tracks. There should be enough bandwidth left in both versions.

Maybe subject for another thread - how many different types of AVC encoders are there and how do they differ?

Even if people feel the UK discs have the best overall PQ in terms of details, it's a shame they have forced subtitles. Some UK studios like to do this for foreign films (French, Italian, Chinese) and they should stop this.

Are there any extras in the UK SE discs?

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Its a shame to have forced subtitles but please teach me how to understand what the characters speak. Ultimately we have to switch on the subtitles to understand the dialogues. This is not an English movie with forced French subs.

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All those audio tracks add up to 11Mbps so it has to steal 3Mbps from the video though 37Mbps should still be plenty.
Wiki lists 13 encoders.
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Its a shame to have forced subtitles but please teach me how to understand what the characters speak. Ultimately we have to switch on the subtitles to understand the dialogues. This is not an English movie with forced French subs.

I'm Chinese in real life and I can understand the movies just fine in Mandarin and I don't need forced subtitles.

Seeing as how there are 1.4 billion Chinese people in the world and the Chinese diaspora is the largest of all human diasporas, it's not unreasonable to expect there to be native speakers in every industrialized nation on Earth who don't need subtitles forced on them.
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