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Piece of cow manure!

A new "remastering" of the new "remaster" is in order. Maybe in our lifetime.



Ok, ok lets me start . . .

1. Better than deeveedee(sic)!!!!
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HD DVD file size: 20.10 GB

Bitrate: 16.67 mbps VC-1


Code:
                                                                                        Total     Video
Title                                   Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track        IME     Secondary Audio Track
-----                                   -----   ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- -------------------     ---     ---------------------

Apollo 13                               VC-1    2:19:42 21,592,080,384* 28,447,283,192  20.60   16.67   DDPlus 5.1 1536Kbps     No
Blu-ray file size: 36.80 GB

Bitrate: 24.23 mbps AVC


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:19:51 39,571,494,912  46,307,898,391  37.73   24.23   DTS-HD Master 5.1 4237Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     APOLLO_13_GLO_G51
Disc Size:      46,307,898,391 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
D-BOX Motion:   Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:19:51 (h:m:s)
Size:                   39,571,494,912 bytes
Total Bitrate:          37.73 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        24233 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 AVC Video        403 kbps            480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 3.2

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         4237 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 4237 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio                       Czech           768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio                       French          768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio                       Hungarian       768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio                       Italian         768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio                       Spanish         768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio                       Spanish         768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
DTS Express                     English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         51.144 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         60.238 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         64.056 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         4.232 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Bulgarian       45.387 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Czech           39.439 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Danish          44.282 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Finnish         41.165 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          40.057 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.830 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Greek           50.458 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Hungarian       45.821 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Icelandic       41.549 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         44.069 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         55.902 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         57.654 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         4.231 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Italian         0.940 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Norwegian       40.514 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      46.184 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Romanian        46.133 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Slovenian       39.582 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         48.183 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         47.557 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         61.557 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         58.962 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         65.589 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         62.741 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         4.176 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         4.399 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         0.929 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Swedish         38.866 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00010.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:19:51.049     39,571,494,912  37,727          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:09:39.120     23,614 kbps     28,990 kbps     00:04:46.327    27,989 kbps     00:04:12.794    27,871 kbps     00:01:36.971    123,101 bytes   321,808 bytes   00:00:16.016    
2               0:09:39.120     0:10:10.234     24,657 kbps     29,214 kbps     00:13:29.934    28,012 kbps     00:19:16.864    27,928 kbps     00:19:16.864    128,551 bytes   390,431 bytes   00:18:12.174    
3               0:19:49.354     0:14:32.496     24,312 kbps     29,287 kbps     00:33:15.868    28,077 kbps     00:32:07.634    27,931 kbps     00:32:07.258    126,750 bytes   338,388 bytes   00:33:16.744    
4               0:34:21.851     0:10:53.486     23,919 kbps     32,136 kbps     00:44:09.772    28,736 kbps     00:44:02.514    27,997 kbps     00:43:57.509    124,701 bytes   367,353 bytes   00:44:07.186    
5               0:45:15.337     0:04:22.845     24,395 kbps     29,180 kbps     00:46:53.852    28,047 kbps     00:46:45.385    27,919 kbps     00:46:44.760    127,182 bytes   261,400 bytes   00:45:55.002    
6               0:49:38.183     0:12:21.490     24,817 kbps     30,937 kbps     01:00:02.140    28,068 kbps     00:59:58.136    27,919 kbps     00:55:55.935    129,386 bytes   285,646 bytes   00:54:51.621    
7               1:01:59.674     0:03:52.982     23,850 kbps     28,611 kbps     01:03:37.313    28,029 kbps     01:04:34.537    27,900 kbps     01:03:11.996    124,342 bytes   266,291 bytes   01:04:37.665    
8               1:05:52.657     0:04:12.794     25,374 kbps     30,919 kbps     01:06:35.908    28,122 kbps     01:06:31.862    27,917 kbps     01:09:30.583    132,288 bytes   288,562 bytes   01:06:36.575    
9               1:10:05.451     0:05:02.593     22,943 kbps     28,919 kbps     01:13:36.203    28,066 kbps     01:10:36.607    27,930 kbps     01:12:33.766    119,612 bytes   324,882 bytes   01:13:35.744    
10              1:15:08.045     0:01:59.994     27,799 kbps     28,848 kbps     01:15:21.350    28,072 kbps     01:15:17.429    27,931 kbps     01:15:13.425    144,932 bytes   242,275 bytes   01:15:23.310    
11              1:17:08.040     0:02:33.570     25,883 kbps     29,332 kbps     01:17:50.165    28,070 kbps     01:18:31.456    27,946 kbps     01:18:32.582    134,942 bytes   277,098 bytes   01:18:10.560    
12              1:19:41.610     0:15:30.971     23,801 kbps     28,882 kbps     01:32:59.073    28,039 kbps     01:30:17.245    27,957 kbps     01:20:35.539    124,087 bytes   288,081 bytes   01:31:06.919    
13              1:35:12.581     0:03:58.571     24,326 kbps     28,788 kbps     01:39:02.978    28,018 kbps     01:37:03.234    27,938 kbps     01:36:59.104    126,823 bytes   261,850 bytes   01:36:11.182    
14              1:39:11.153     0:09:10.341     23,885 kbps     29,494 kbps     01:43:33.832    28,191 kbps     01:40:49.585    28,044 kbps     01:40:44.580    124,524 bytes   354,438 bytes   01:43:36.752    
15              1:48:21.495     0:08:18.122     24,546 kbps     28,889 kbps     01:55:33.259    28,095 kbps     01:52:06.553    27,949 kbps     01:51:06.034    127,974 bytes   302,330 bytes   01:52:11.558    
16              1:56:39.617     0:02:10.296     23,964 kbps     29,109 kbps     01:57:54.567    28,122 kbps     01:57:53.483    27,939 kbps     01:57:51.230    124,938 bytes   324,871 bytes   01:57:58.488    
17              1:58:49.914     0:06:28.179     22,086 kbps     28,560 kbps     02:00:46.697    27,962 kbps     02:04:31.130    27,876 kbps     02:04:31.714    115,147 bytes   244,875 bytes   02:02:49.820    
18              2:05:18.093     0:03:49.062     25,266 kbps     28,996 kbps     02:08:14.061    28,044 kbps     02:07:17.755    27,922 kbps     02:07:35.230    131,726 bytes   343,389 bytes   02:06:39.800    
19              2:09:07.156     0:04:59.382     25,278 kbps     28,941 kbps     02:09:27.885    28,019 kbps     02:10:12.137    27,943 kbps     02:13:12.359    131,789 bytes   290,627 bytes   02:09:13.120    
20              2:14:06.538     0:05:44.510     24,259 kbps     31,089 kbps     02:19:42.999    27,909 kbps     02:19:42.999    27,784 kbps     02:17:20.649    126,489 bytes   543,940 bytes   02:19:45.960    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00010.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8390.883                24,234                  25,417,949,849  138,258,084     
00010.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           8390.883                4,238                   4,444,587,068   25,461,337      
00010.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x82            DTS             spa (Spanish)           8390.883                768                     805,540,864     4,719,966       
00010.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x82            DTS             fra (French)            8390.883                768                     805,540,864     4,719,966       
00010.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x82            DTS             ita (Italian)           8390.883                768                     805,540,864     4,719,966       
00010.M2TS      4356 (0x1104)   0x82            DTS             spa (Spanish)           8390.883                768                     805,540,864     4,719,966       
00010.M2TS      4357 (0x1105)   0x82            DTS             ces (Czech)             8390.883                768                     805,540,864     4,719,966       
00010.M2TS      4358 (0x1106)   0x82            DTS             hun (Hungarian)         8390.883                768                     805,540,864     4,719,966       
00010.M2TS      4359 (0x1107)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           8390.883                192                     201,385,728     1,311,105       
00010.M2TS      4360 (0x1108)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           8390.883                192                     201,385,728     1,311,105       
00010.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8390.883                51                      53,643,933      305,729         
00010.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8390.883                48                      50,538,506      286,974         
00010.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            8390.883                40                      42,014,528      240,701         
00010.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           8390.883                44                      46,222,968      263,538         
00010.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8390.883                48                      49,881,351      283,409         
00010.M2TS      4613 (0x1205)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        8390.883                46                      48,441,388      275,586         
00010.M2TS      4614 (0x1206)   0x90            PGS             dan (Danish)            8390.883                44                      46,446,554      264,737         
00010.M2TS      4615 (0x1207)   0x90            PGS             nor (Norwegian)         8390.883                41                      42,494,569      243,291         
00010.M2TS      4616 (0x1208)   0x90            PGS             fin (Finnish)           8390.883                41                      43,176,731      247,038         
00010.M2TS      4617 (0x1209)   0x90            PGS             swe (Swedish)           8390.883                39                      40,765,653      233,903         
00010.M2TS      4618 (0x120A)   0x90            PGS             bul (Bulgarian)         8390.883                45                      47,606,064      271,043         
00010.M2TS      4619 (0x120B)   0x90            PGS             ces (Czech)             8390.883                39                      41,366,964      237,154         
00010.M2TS      4620 (0x120C)   0x90            PGS             ell (Greek)             8390.883                50                      52,924,841      299,941         
00010.M2TS      4621 (0x120D)   0x90            PGS             hun (Hungarian)         8390.883                46                      48,061,044      273,534         
00010.M2TS      4622 (0x120E)   0x90            PGS             isl (Icelandic)         8390.883                42                      43,580,101      249,135         
00010.M2TS      4623 (0x120F)   0x90            PGS             ron (Romanian)          8390.883                46                      48,387,585      275,365         
00010.M2TS      4624 (0x1210)   0x90            PGS             slv (Slovenian)         8390.883                40                      41,516,733      237,944         
00010.M2TS      4625 (0x1211)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8390.883                60                      63,182,477      356,978         
00010.M2TS      4626 (0x1212)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8390.883                62                      64,566,276      364,618         
00010.M2TS      4627 (0x1213)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           8390.883                56                      58,634,875      332,386         
00010.M2TS      4628 (0x1214)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8390.883                59                      61,844,341      349,837         
00010.M2TS      4629 (0x1215)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8390.883                64                      67,187,407      379,548         
00010.M2TS      4630 (0x1216)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8390.883                66                      68,794,811      388,459         
00010.M2TS      4631 (0x1217)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           8390.883                58                      60,472,420      343,212         
00010.M2TS      4632 (0x1218)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8390.883                63                      65,807,708      372,216         
00010.M2TS      4633 (0x1219)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8390.883                4                       4,438,686       24,895          
00010.M2TS      4634 (0x121A)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8390.883                4                       4,380,069       24,574          
00010.M2TS      4635 (0x121B)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           8390.883                4                       4,437,903       24,890          
00010.M2TS      4636 (0x121C)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8390.883                4                       4,614,361       25,851          
00010.M2TS      4637 (0x121D)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8390.883                1                       974,490         5,604           
00010.M2TS      4638 (0x121E)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            8390.883                1                       870,060         5,049           
00010.M2TS      4639 (0x121F)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           8390.883                1                       986,388         5,688           
00010.M2TS      6656 (0x1A00)   0xA2            DTS Express     eng (English)           8390.883                192                     201,385,984     1,179,996       
00010.M2TS      6912 (0x1B00)   0x1B            AVC                                     8390.883                403                     422,685,761     2,396,881
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: APOLLO_13_GLO_G51
Disc Size: 46,307,898,391 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 39,571,494,912 bytes
Length: 2:19:51
Total Bitrate: 37.73 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 24233 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 403 kbps / 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 3.2
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4237 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: Czech / DTS Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: French / DTS Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: Hungarian / DTS Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: Italian / DTS Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: Spanish / DTS Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: Spanish / DTS Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: English / DTS Express / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit
Subtitle: English / 51.144 kbps
Subtitle: English / 60.238 kbps
Subtitle: English / 64.056 kbps
Subtitle: English / 4.232 kbps
Subtitle: Bulgarian / 45.387 kbps
Subtitle: Czech / 39.439 kbps
Subtitle: Danish / 44.282 kbps
Subtitle: Finnish / 41.165 kbps
Subtitle: French / 40.057 kbps
Subtitle: French / 0.830 kbps
Subtitle: Greek / 50.458 kbps
Subtitle: Hungarian / 45.821 kbps
Subtitle: Icelandic / 41.549 kbps
Subtitle: Italian / 44.069 kbps
Subtitle: Italian / 55.902 kbps
Subtitle: Italian / 57.654 kbps
Subtitle: Italian / 4.231 kbps
Subtitle: Italian / 0.940 kbps
Subtitle: Norwegian / 40.514 kbps
Subtitle: Portuguese / 46.184 kbps
Subtitle: Romanian / 46.133 kbps
Subtitle: Slovenian / 39.582 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 48.183 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 47.557 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 61.557 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 58.962 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 65.589 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 62.741 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 4.176 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 4.399 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 0.929 kbps
Subtitle: Swedish / 38.866 kbps

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U-g-l-y, you ain't got no alibi......

I just love the way Universal handles its catalog-titles.

(+ loving all the overly positive reviews on the net)
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Reframed, DNR, EE what happened there?
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So far I prefer the HD-DVD. Interesting. Boosted contrast, slight filtering, and some EE. Oh joy.

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Unbelievable.

All they had to do as a minimum was use the same transfer as the HD DVD and they completely screw it up.

No Purchase.
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Hopefully Universal will take the time to re-master this title correctly for the 50th Anniversary (2020)...
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Lookes i'll be keepin my HD copy from 2006 with all the grain intact.

HD DVD 300+
BD 500+
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Thanks I was waiting for some shots before considering replacing the old HD DVD (that won't be happening now).

Gotta love the reviews claiming this as "demo material." I guess if EE is your thing....
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Wow !!! Xylon, thanks for the work. The HDDVD stays put at my house. What were they thinking on the BD, DNR, EE and the HDDVD was fine already ? I guess the grain scared someone.

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Universal's catalogue department strikes again. Why am I not surprised?

For once they have a master that actually looks fine, and then they go and totally mess it up. It's like The Thing all over again, except even worse.

I wish Universal would get their act together, but as long as you get a 4.5 video rating for spending $$$ on restoring a classic in 8K, and 4.0 for doing nothing, things are obviously not going to change.
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Oh dear, Universal strike again. How hard can it be to put out a good disc especially seen as they already had a decent master from the HD-DVD?

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Will still get rave reviews from most "professional" reviewers...HDD gave it 4.5 stars for video saying: "Technically, this presentation is leaps and bounds above the DVD presentation. This will delight videophiles and will give you great demo material to show to your friends. When they come over, show them the rocket taking off." Disgusting transfer.
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Universal seems to go out of their way to screw it up. A direct port of the HD-DVD would've been fine by me. Not only did they add EE and DNR they also jacked up the contrast and color saturation. Check out the white blob of clipped detail on Mrs. Lovell's shoulder.

The "reviewers" who give trash like this a pass should find a new hobby.
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Mrs. Lovell's face seems to have been in the Sun a bit to long on the BD!!

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What a mushy nightmare.

Amazing really, seems to have thicker grain yet manages to have less detail also.
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Wow. Did Universal do that shortly after moving to Blu-Ray - before their catalog people knew what they were doing - and just sit on it until now? I honestly can't imagine that they just recently did this, that's some seriously rough digital manipulation there.

Granted, even if the work was done earlier, its no excuse to release it like that.
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Yikes Contrast boosted too much (look at her jacket!) and EE are the 2 major offenses that immediately jump out at me. I love this movie, but if those shots are indeed representative of the video quality, i'm going to pass on this one and hope they'll put out a better version

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Wow

The lack of quality control/professionalism among some studios' home video departments is just shocking.
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I still don't believe that the EE on this title is too horrible - it's bad - but it's not worthy of a legend like some titles. I gave this one a 3/5 for PQ - though admittedly I didn't have the HDDVD for reference on the contrast games they played.

Edit: It's hard to determine how many of the halo's that I am seeing are related to the EE vs the excessive contrast boost.

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Interesting comparison. The Blu-ray is obviously a different transfer. I would speculate Uni lost the master that was used for the HDDVD in the warehouse fire and did one of two things, either struck a new master using someone that made different decisions from whoever supervised the the transfer used on HDDVD, or reverted to an older master that they then tried to clean up. If it was the latter, then shame on them. If it was the former, I wonder if this was simply a studio supervised transfer, or if someone attached to the production supervised.

I actually picked this up a few days ago and have not taken the time to look at it. Now I'm going to have to fire up the PJ this afternoon to see what this looks like in real time.
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Unbelievable.

All they had to do as a minimum was use the same transfer as the HD DVD and they completely screw it up.

No Purchase.

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Interesting comparison. The Blu-ray is obviously a different transfer. I would speculate Uni lost the master that was used for the HDDVD in the warehouse fire and did one of two things, either struck a new master using someone that made different decisions from whoever supervised the the transfer used on HDDVD, or reverted to an older master that they then tried to clean up. If it was the latter, then shame on them. If it was the former, I wonder if this was simply a studio supervised transfer, or if someone attached to the production supervised.

I actually picked this up a few days ago and have not taken the time to look at it. Now I'm going to have to fire up the PJ this afternoon to see what this looks like in real time.

they still could have pulled the encode from a copy of the HD DVD if push came to shove... would have been better than what they put on the bluray

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I can't believe I wasted my money on this trash. I'm so sick of Universal crapping all over their catalog releases.
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