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Excellent PQ. Remastered to be better looking. Nice work by the company who did this

Some people may find the change in color saturation. Did it change the mood of the movie? I don't think so. I personally prefer the more dialed down "natural' look.

In regards to the difference in PQ between EU and US, don't bother the huge discrepancy in AVC encoding does not reveal anything obvious like extra artifacts and filtering. The codecs are getting better efficient. Whoever did the

US version decided to put everything at maximum allocation and left for a cup of coffe and a nooner
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Blu-ray EU file size: 28.20 GB

Bitrate: 19.11 mbps AVC


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00699.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:25:09 30,280,218,624  46,771,448,453  27.81   19.11   DTS-HD Master 5.1 3912Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     
Disc Size:      46,771,448,453 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00699.MPLS
Length:                 2:25:09 (h:m:s)
Size:                   30,280,218,624 bytes
Total Bitrate:          27.81 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        19111 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3912 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3912 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio                       French          768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio                       German          768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio             Hungarian       448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Polish          448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Czech           224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             Turkish         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         29.837 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         25.232 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         26.320 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Czech           24.100 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Dutch           30.257 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Hungarian       24.387 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Polish          22.185 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      27.067 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Romanian        26.502 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Serbian         27.236 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Turkish         28.914 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00834.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:25:09.696     30,280,218,624  27,813          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:47.073     19,275 kbps     38,747 kbps     00:00:26.443    34,669 kbps     00:01:49.150    30,320 kbps     00:01:49.067    100,483 bytes   640,804 bytes   00:04:22.887    
2               0:06:47.073     0:08:02.815     20,060 kbps     40,409 kbps     00:14:46.385    31,462 kbps     00:11:41.367    27,061 kbps     00:11:36.570    104,573 bytes   640,254 bytes   00:09:17.682    
3               0:14:49.888     0:06:23.132     18,690 kbps     27,560 kbps     00:16:43.293    24,581 kbps     00:16:28.028    24,355 kbps     00:16:23.023    97,452 bytes    601,129 bytes   00:16:17.226    
4               0:21:13.021     0:03:30.669     20,852 kbps     29,411 kbps     00:22:44.529    25,920 kbps     00:22:40.525    23,713 kbps     00:23:01.588    108,714 bytes   559,654 bytes   00:22:42.569    
5               0:24:43.690     0:05:02.344     17,926 kbps     27,974 kbps     00:24:45.650    24,660 kbps     00:29:15.753    21,781 kbps     00:24:44.649    93,473 bytes    603,746 bytes   00:25:50.715    
6               0:29:46.034     0:07:23.483     19,143 kbps     31,452 kbps     00:32:34.369    24,393 kbps     00:36:21.220    24,162 kbps     00:36:16.757    99,800 bytes    604,873 bytes   00:32:32.825    
7               0:37:09.518     0:05:32.958     17,895 kbps     31,093 kbps     00:41:26.775    27,770 kbps     00:37:09.685    25,877 kbps     00:37:09.518    93,299 bytes    569,706 bytes   00:37:10.519    
8               0:42:42.476     0:08:59.496     19,127 kbps     28,670 kbps     00:47:50.826    25,452 kbps     00:47:46.989    24,345 kbps     00:48:25.944    99,722 bytes    586,046 bytes   00:48:20.981    
9               0:51:41.973     0:03:36.633     18,006 kbps     26,554 kbps     00:52:02.577    23,798 kbps     00:51:58.657    23,140 kbps     00:51:53.652    93,876 bytes    598,186 bytes   00:52:03.495    
10              0:55:18.606     0:04:38.779     20,805 kbps     28,723 kbps     00:56:39.604    25,437 kbps     00:56:36.601    24,905 kbps     00:56:31.930    108,470 bytes   639,497 bytes   00:56:22.962    
11              0:59:57.385     0:04:07.204     18,953 kbps     25,889 kbps     01:01:12.377    22,170 kbps     00:59:58.594    21,293 kbps     00:59:59.095    98,812 bytes    596,916 bytes   01:01:19.926    
12              1:04:04.590     0:05:37.336     19,098 kbps     28,461 kbps     01:06:54.468    25,777 kbps     01:06:50.881    24,834 kbps     01:08:33.692    99,570 bytes    562,697 bytes   01:06:51.674    
13              1:09:41.927     0:07:18.730     20,448 kbps     40,227 kbps     01:14:46.440    33,831 kbps     01:14:44.188    30,775 kbps     01:14:40.058    106,604 bytes   616,571 bytes   01:10:46.742    
14              1:17:00.657     0:05:20.903     15,611 kbps     23,557 kbps     01:22:05.670    19,851 kbps     01:21:37.601    18,672 kbps     01:18:08.016    81,386 bytes    518,881 bytes   01:18:13.355    
15              1:22:21.561     0:05:36.336     20,104 kbps     35,432 kbps     01:24:37.238    30,675 kbps     01:24:34.652    29,938 kbps     01:24:29.189    104,813 bytes   611,064 bytes   01:24:33.777    
16              1:27:57.897     0:07:44.547     18,363 kbps     33,936 kbps     01:30:00.561    31,658 kbps     01:31:03.166    29,502 kbps     01:30:58.411    95,736 bytes    583,763 bytes   01:31:05.459    
17              1:35:42.445     0:03:26.331     21,748 kbps     33,117 kbps     01:36:31.911    31,060 kbps     01:36:31.243    28,402 kbps     01:36:29.241    113,385 bytes   589,637 bytes   01:36:32.286    
18              1:39:08.776     0:09:57.430     18,663 kbps     34,652 kbps     01:40:20.097    25,922 kbps     01:40:19.096    24,253 kbps     01:48:43.558    97,302 bytes    619,396 bytes   01:40:16.927    
19              1:49:06.206     0:04:55.795     19,414 kbps     27,093 kbps     01:51:13.416    24,132 kbps     01:49:08.166    23,173 kbps     01:49:42.075    101,218 bytes   584,476 bytes   01:49:08.208    
20              1:54:02.001     0:07:26.529     18,881 kbps     29,805 kbps     01:54:09.801    27,576 kbps     01:54:05.838    25,696 kbps     01:54:02.377    98,439 bytes    639,775 bytes   01:55:02.770    
21              2:01:28.531     0:05:14.563     18,979 kbps     25,134 kbps     02:01:49.343    23,285 kbps     02:01:47.258    22,776 kbps     02:01:47.133    98,948 bytes    550,267 bytes   02:02:49.820    
22              2:06:43.095     0:06:28.721     20,093 kbps     37,762 kbps     02:10:29.154    33,529 kbps     02:10:17.351    31,980 kbps     02:10:14.556    104,758 bytes   640,328 bytes   02:10:41.541    
23              2:13:11.816     0:02:28.815     15,496 kbps     22,937 kbps     02:13:44.599    20,891 kbps     02:13:40.595    18,269 kbps     02:14:40.530    80,787 bytes    578,119 bytes   02:15:40.632    
24              2:15:40.632     0:09:29.064     19,641 kbps     53,925 kbps     02:19:17.557    37,262 kbps     02:19:16.473    28,162 kbps     02:19:11.468    102,408 bytes   638,174 bytes   02:19:17.265    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00834.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8709.618                19,111                  20,806,099,626  113,199,197     
00834.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           8709.618                3,912                   4,258,752,196   24,503,012      
00834.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x82            DTS             fra (French)            8709.618                768                     836,131,840     4,899,210       
00834.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x82            DTS             deu (German)            8709.618                768                     836,131,840     4,899,210       
00834.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             ces (Czech)             8709.618                224                     243,872,384     1,360,895       
00834.M2TS      4356 (0x1104)   0x81            AC3             hun (Hungarian)         8709.618                448                     487,744,768     2,721,790       
00834.M2TS      4357 (0x1105)   0x81            AC3             pol (Polish)            8709.618                448                     487,744,768     2,721,790       
00834.M2TS      4358 (0x1106)   0x81            AC3             tur (Turkish)           8709.618                224                     243,872,384     1,360,895       
00834.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8709.618                30                      32,483,420      185,535         
00834.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           8709.618                25                      27,469,917      159,437         
00834.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             zho (Chinese)           8709.618                26                      28,655,337      165,889         
00834.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             nld (Dutch)             8709.618                30                      32,940,970      188,123         
00834.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            PGS             ces (Czech)             8709.618                24                      26,237,722      151,727         
00834.M2TS      4613 (0x1205)   0x90            PGS             hun (Hungarian)         8709.618                24                      26,550,888      153,246         
00834.M2TS      4614 (0x1206)   0x90            PGS             pol (Polish)            8709.618                22                      24,152,600      140,315         
00834.M2TS      4615 (0x1207)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        8709.618                27                      29,468,561      169,241         
00834.M2TS      4616 (0x1208)   0x90            PGS             ron (Romanian)          8709.618                27                      28,852,857      165,817         
00834.M2TS      4617 (0x1209)   0x90            PGS             srp (Serbian)           8709.618                27                      29,652,334      170,288         
00834.M2TS      4618 (0x120A)   0x90            PGS             tur (Turkish)           8709.618                29                      31,479,169      180,046
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title:
Disc Size: 46,771,448,453 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00699.MPLS
Size: 30,280,218,624 bytes
Length: 2:25:09
Total Bitrate: 27.81 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 19111 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3912 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: French / DTS Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: German / DTS Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: Hungarian / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: Polish / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: Czech / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Audio: Turkish / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB
Subtitle: English / 29.837 kbps
Subtitle: Chinese / 25.232 kbps
Subtitle: Chinese / 26.320 kbps
Subtitle: Czech / 24.100 kbps
Subtitle: Dutch / 30.257 kbps
Subtitle: Hungarian / 24.387 kbps
Subtitle: Polish / 22.185 kbps
Subtitle: Portuguese / 27.067 kbps
Subtitle: Romanian / 26.502 kbps
Subtitle: Serbian / 27.236 kbps
Subtitle: Turkish / 28.914 kbps




Blu-ray US file size: 43.90 GB

Bitrate: 37.15 mbps AVC


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00001.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:25:15 47,201,415,168  47,855,056,009  43.33   37.15   DTS-HD Master 5.1 3015Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     
Disc Size:      47,855,056,009 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00001.MPLS
Length:                 2:25:15 (h:m:s)
Size:                   47,201,415,168 bytes
Total Bitrate:          43.33 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        37148 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3015 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3015 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             French          640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         39.053 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         36.678 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          26.064 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.033 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         30.640 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
01052.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:25:15.331     47,201,415,168  43,327          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:47.073     36,309 kbps     46,103 kbps     00:01:46.564    40,703 kbps     00:00:19.728    39,929 kbps     00:00:36.745    189,279 bytes   467,786 bytes   00:04:37.652    
2               0:06:47.073     0:08:02.815     38,217 kbps     42,357 kbps     00:11:30.606    40,304 kbps     00:11:26.644    39,973 kbps     00:11:21.639    199,246 bytes   435,103 bytes   00:09:20.685    
3               0:14:49.889     0:06:23.132     36,769 kbps     41,565 kbps     00:17:51.403    39,984 kbps     00:19:15.904    39,850 kbps     00:19:10.983    191,697 bytes   406,093 bytes   00:15:26.926    
4               0:21:13.021     0:03:30.668     38,449 kbps     42,864 kbps     00:22:44.905    39,885 kbps     00:24:25.714    39,813 kbps     00:23:02.422    200,454 bytes   310,531 bytes   00:21:28.036    
5               0:24:43.690     0:05:02.343     37,482 kbps     42,270 kbps     00:25:05.253    40,004 kbps     00:28:01.096    39,853 kbps     00:27:56.132    195,414 bytes   363,332 bytes   00:26:28.128    
6               0:29:46.034     0:07:23.484     37,380 kbps     40,809 kbps     00:31:36.269    39,935 kbps     00:31:32.265    39,856 kbps     00:31:15.415    194,884 bytes   370,402 bytes   00:32:32.825    
7               0:37:09.518     0:05:32.957     37,900 kbps     42,200 kbps     00:40:10.241    39,969 kbps     00:37:13.105    39,813 kbps     00:37:26.369    197,595 bytes   324,538 bytes   00:41:51.550    
8               0:42:42.476     0:08:59.497     37,690 kbps     46,447 kbps     00:49:15.577    39,943 kbps     00:49:27.881    39,852 kbps     00:48:20.939    196,498 bytes   382,023 bytes   00:48:49.593    
9               0:51:41.973     0:03:36.633     36,989 kbps     41,273 kbps     00:51:53.860    39,947 kbps     00:51:58.698    39,793 kbps     00:54:52.372    192,844 bytes   385,803 bytes   00:53:08.226    
10              0:55:18.606     0:04:38.778     38,070 kbps     41,527 kbps     00:59:52.964    40,015 kbps     00:56:55.328    39,911 kbps     00:56:50.323    198,482 bytes   452,705 bytes   00:56:21.169    
11              0:59:57.385     0:05:13.521     36,553 kbps     41,128 kbps     01:03:44.070    39,986 kbps     01:02:30.538    39,871 kbps     01:02:27.660    190,573 bytes   394,760 bytes   01:01:26.933    
12              1:05:10.907     0:04:31.020     38,854 kbps     41,432 kbps     01:06:09.674    40,004 kbps     01:06:45.167    39,880 kbps     01:06:40.079    202,569 bytes   292,875 bytes   01:09:06.142    
13              1:09:41.927     0:07:18.729     37,686 kbps     41,812 kbps     01:09:47.391    39,947 kbps     01:14:03.313    39,841 kbps     01:14:26.336    196,476 bytes   419,014 bytes   01:10:46.742    
14              1:17:00.657     0:05:20.903     37,039 kbps     42,290 kbps     01:19:05.490    40,202 kbps     01:20:22.609    39,790 kbps     01:17:28.977    193,107 bytes   360,783 bytes   01:18:28.995    
15              1:22:21.561     0:05:36.336     37,628 kbps     42,726 kbps     01:27:35.708    40,251 kbps     01:27:31.704    39,910 kbps     01:27:26.699    196,177 bytes   360,852 bytes   01:23:19.703    
16              1:27:57.897     0:07:44.547     36,949 kbps     44,214 kbps     01:33:29.895    39,943 kbps     01:35:31.934    39,790 kbps     01:31:40.286    192,636 bytes   327,281 bytes   01:32:41.889    
17              1:35:42.445     0:03:26.331     38,831 kbps     42,180 kbps     01:36:03.132    40,195 kbps     01:38:02.960    39,924 kbps     01:37:57.955    202,449 bytes   364,935 bytes   01:39:01.685    
18              1:39:08.776     0:09:57.430     37,300 kbps     42,706 kbps     01:45:37.456    40,164 kbps     01:45:33.535    39,892 kbps     01:48:47.354    194,464 bytes   422,509 bytes   01:40:16.927    
19              1:49:06.206     0:04:55.795     37,605 kbps     41,843 kbps     01:51:27.847    40,194 kbps     01:50:17.736    39,937 kbps     01:50:12.689    196,053 bytes   356,903 bytes   01:49:09.209    
20              1:54:02.001     0:07:26.529     37,360 kbps     41,446 kbps     01:54:56.931    40,077 kbps     01:54:55.805    39,910 kbps     01:54:50.800    194,776 bytes   458,249 bytes   01:54:58.766    
21              2:01:28.531     0:05:14.564     37,574 kbps     40,711 kbps     02:02:40.895    39,938 kbps     02:02:37.016    39,870 kbps     02:02:14.076    195,894 bytes   350,371 bytes   02:02:46.817    
22              2:06:43.095     0:06:28.721     37,652 kbps     42,053 kbps     02:10:25.734    39,993 kbps     02:07:22.551    39,866 kbps     02:11:42.519    196,302 bytes   351,199 bytes   02:11:52.321    
23              2:13:11.817     0:02:28.815     34,703 kbps     40,614 kbps     02:14:29.478    39,862 kbps     02:14:12.252    39,782 kbps     02:14:41.448    180,926 bytes   332,132 bytes   02:15:40.632    
24              2:15:40.632     0:09:34.699     32,885 kbps     42,100 kbps     02:19:06.629    40,231 kbps     02:19:02.625    39,985 kbps     02:18:57.620    171,461 bytes   498,509 bytes   02:24:01.174    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
01052.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8715.165                37,149                  40,470,070,982  220,067,703     
01052.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           8715.165                3,015                   3,284,522,788   19,207,805      
01052.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             fra (French)            8715.165                640                     697,228,800     4,085,325       
01052.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             spa (Spanish)           8715.165                224                     244,030,080     1,361,775       
01052.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8715.165                39                      42,544,916      242,529         
01052.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            8715.165                26                      28,394,994      163,996         
01052.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8715.165                31                      33,379,254      191,697         
01052.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            8715.165                0                       35,428          213             
01052.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8715.165                37                      39,957,617      227,676
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title:
Disc Size: 47,855,056,009 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 47,201,415,168 bytes
Length: 2:25:15
Total Bitrate: 43.33 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 37148 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3015 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: French / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: Spanish / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Subtitle: English / 39.053 kbps
Subtitle: English / 36.678 kbps
Subtitle: French / 26.064 kbps
Subtitle: French / 0.033 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 30.640 kbps

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Interesting based on just #1 with all 4 sources. I'll wait to see more before commenting.

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Interesting based on just #1 with all 4 sources. I'll wait to see more before commenting.

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I can give it a go.

It looks like there is a new master for the 2 BDs. Were the HD cap looks like it full of video/compression noise.

The 2 BDs looks fairly equal.
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My initial take is that the MPEG-2 and DVD are from the same master and had a tad of sharpening done. The BDs look the same and more "natural".

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http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3398

"LaserPacific Media Corporation, a Los Angeles post production company, has built a new end-to-end 4K workflow for mastering and re-mastering feature films. The company is currently preparing a "true and complete 4K master" of the Steven Spielberg film 'Minority Report' for Paramount Pictures and 20th Century Fox for release on Blu-ray next year."
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My initial take is that the MPEG-2 and DVD are from the same master and had a tad of sharpening done. The BDs look the same and more "natural".

I dont think the BDs come from the same master as the other, because they are not framed the same way.

But the HDTV and DVD do have sharpening and brightness issues.
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I dont think the BDs come from the same master as the other, because they are not framed the same way.

But the HDTV and DVD do have sharpening and brightness issues.

Yes, the BDs came from something different than the other 2. The post before your last shows where they came from.

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http://www.laserpacific.com/index.ph...g-projects/241

Based on a short story by Philip K. Dick, Minority Report, starring Tom Cruise was released in 2002. It was sixth time director Steven Spielberg had worked with acclaimed cinematographer Janusz Kaminski and their partnership continues to this day - most recently they worked together on Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull. Based in and around Washington DC in the year 2054, Minority Report features Tom Cruise as a member of the Precrime, a specialized police department that apprehends future criminals based on foreknowledge provided by three psychics who can see into the future. Because of their work, there has been no murder in DC for nine years. The future world that Kaminski helps to create through the cinematography is grainy and gritty - very different from the future worlds created in other sci-fi movies. The look of the movie, as seen in theaters,was further enhanced by utilizing Technicolor's ENR print process - a technique that increases contrast, decreases saturation and increases grain by retaining silver in the final prints.

Fast forward to 2009 - technology has advanced to a point where Minority Report can be re-mastered at 4K resolution using the original negative (because the ENR process was only applied to the prints). Over-scanning the film at 6K to create the 4K scans captures all the image information on the original negative. In order to deliver the highest quality end product everyone involved decided that the project should be entirely finished at 4K, meaning that the color grading and defect removal would also be done at 4K. According to LaserPacific's Senior Colorist Lou Levinson, "when Janusz Kaminski saw certain scenes in the movie, he was astonished to see details that he had never seen before. Working at 4K is as close as you can get today to seeing exactly what is on the original negative".

Using the Baselight color grading system from Filmlight, along with plug-ins from The Foundry, Lou Levinson was able to manipulate not only the color but also the grain levels from shot to shot if necessary. He explains, "Janusz Kaminski is a cinematographer who uses the texture and grain of film as an integral part of the image. He was excited to be able to have the control over each shot that you get with a digital process, particularly the ability to adjust the grain level." The grading process began with Lou matching an answer print. The answer print consisted of individual reels that Steven Spielberg had selected as best representing how he wanted the movie to be seen. At that point, Janusz Kaminski came in to work with Lou. The grading was done while viewing the 4K files rather than a lower resolution proxy. Steven Spielberg was also closely involved in the remastering and the resulting HDCAM-SR master represents how the creative team want the movie to be seen by viewers today. The HD master used for making the Blu-Ray release was created directly from the color-graded, dust-busted 4K files. Going directly from 4K to HD resolution eliminates any filtering or resizing artifacts that can result from intermediate steps.
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Interesting, they basicly recreated the movie with a DI master. Thats even better (in quality terms) then just making a new 4K master from the orginal IP.
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I'm not sure what's up with the feint line that shadows the letterboxing on the US release. Its not something I think I'd ever notice while viewing the disc however, just a little bit of an oddity that's revealed under close scrutiny.

Having said that I'd say based on the screen caps that this is one uber freakingly awesome looking disc. I have no issues picking this disc up as a blind buy based on these caps and will likely grab it next week after pay day. I suspect that this is one of those threads that will be mysteriously ignored by people that hate Xylon's screen cap work
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wow, the dvd and broadcast look ugly..EE/sharpening filters. Good job with the bluray.

It's really unfortunate that this format is so hit/miss with big titles...
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EU release appears to be ever so slightly softer - noticeable in example 3, the hair on the back of the guy's head goes a bit softer and less defined in the EU version, whereas the US version appears slightly grainier and detailed. To be honest, though, it really isn't substantially different - certainly not enough to warrant me importing the US version!
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Looks like a worthy upgrade from my crappy ol' DVD!
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Looks stellar to me

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Definite grain reduction on this set of screengrabs but overall the positives far outweigh the negatives. Fine detail galore.
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The DVD and the HDTV versions are grainy as hell (not that I'm complaining). Whatever new DNR tools they used for the blu-ray works very, very well. In fact the final result looks much better than Lowry's method. The "Lowry look" we call it.

Laser Pacific is one company to watch. Does help when Stevie is actively invloved
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Looks fantastic. My one complaint is that while I remember liking it, this movie wouldn't be my first choice to get such treatment while others get shafted
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The DVD looks like its being viewed through a dirty fish tank compared to the blu ray. Definitely picking this one up.

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Definite grain reduction on this set of screengrabs but overall the positives far outweigh the negatives. Fine detail galore.

That's awesome.

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Its on like Donkey Kong! attention studios! if your going to go to the effort of messing with a release, can we have more like this and none like Universal's latest
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Definite grain reduction on this set of screengrabs but overall the positives far outweigh the negatives. Fine detail galore.

That was only shot with DNR throughout the whole movie oddly.
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Laser Pacific is one company to watch.

Uh, remember Elf? They did that one but the DNR might've been added later by the New Line's wax department.
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Uh, remember Elf? They did that one but the DNR might've been added later by the New Line's wax department.

Oh **** they did that one
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