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post #121 of 247 Old 04-27-2010, 04:47 AM
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Disc title: DANCING WITH POCAHONTAS? Somebody at Fox has an awesome sense of humor!

Nah, it's just Xylon.
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i just didn't expect so many on the opening starfield because when you increase brightness on your display you can see its riddled with artifacts

If you must increase brighness to see the artifacts, im good to go. On the other hand I dont think this movie is that good. So im waiting for it to hit the $10 bin.
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Foxy,

My brightness / backlight setting is probably on the lower side as my newly bought LCD suffers from backlight bleeding forcing me to compromise the recommended settings until I get the replacement unit. I am yet to watch 2012 as I am waiting for the price to drop below 10 quids.

I really miss my Plasma which never had any problems with basic PQ and can't afford to buy one in UK as my stay here is gonna be a short one and don't want to spend more on electricity.

Overall, Avatar ranks amongst the top 5 BDs in terms of PQ.

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post #124 of 247 Old 04-27-2010, 05:08 AM - Thread Starter
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I agree. He could have made the body-plan more "alien" and kept the enormous, universally appealing eyes, but his decision may also have been dictated by the way he used motion-capture. In any event, Blomkamp managed to make us feel empathy for the prawn........ then again, that character design included enormous eyes as well.

but at the same time the main human character in district 9 wasn't falling in love with and boinking any of the prawn
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but at the same time the main human character in district 9 wasn't falling in love with and boinking any of the prawn



sure about that?
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Foxy,

My brightness / backlight setting is probably on the lower side as my newly bought LCD suffers from backlight bleeding forcing me to compromise the recommended settings until I get the replacement unit. I am yet to watch 2012 as I am waiting for the price to drop below 10 quids.

I really miss my Plasma which never had any problems with basic PQ and can't afford to buy one in UK as my stay here is gonna be a short one and don't want to spend more on electricity.

Overall, Avatar ranks amongst the top 5 BDs in terms of PQ.

Yah, just checked on the calibrated big screen again, i saw none of the minor compression issues that were visible on the computer screen, so its not an issue for me and only visible when the brightness is ramped up way too high.
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sure about that?

Oh, that ain't right.. lol.

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sure about that?

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Whoa their feet are not touching the ground. HORRIBLE special effects.
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sure about that?

except he wasn't actually boinking any prawn

he was trying to help a prawn who was having back problems
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Jesus, Foxy. That's some nitpicking right there.
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Jesus, Foxy. That's some nitpicking right there.

Yah i have a special comb just for nit picking.

Oh yuck the above thought might put some off their dinner.

I have some HD screencaps of Avatar now, i'm actually using one as my screensaver since its perfect for 1920x1080 screens. Anyway they can be viewed below.

http://www.darkrealmfox.com/film_rev...encaps-avatar/
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I believe it says something about a transfer when I'm using screencaps as desktop wallpaper.

Verum postulo res.
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Definitely an amazing transfer. I could see that while my folks were watching it. Maybe now I can actually "see" the film now. When I saw it in 3-D, my glasses were so bad, it pulled me out of the movie. all but ruined the film overall. Reminds me why I don't care for 3-D.

Definitely great visuals though, and I'm not one for CGI.
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Well I gave up, and purchased the movie. But in 2D the effects looked more fake then they did in 3D. Or was it that 3D masked the effects better?
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Well I gave up, and purchased the movie. But in 2D the effects looked more fake then they did in 3D. Or was it that 3D masked the effects better?

IMO, the latter. In both 3D venues where I saw it (a multiplex with Real3D in 2.35:1, and in an IMAX) the image was generally dark and seemed to wash out at the corners. Further, the 3D had the effect of forcing me to look only at things that were in focus. And in the IMAX, it almost seemed like there was a light haze over the entire image the whole time. I was wondering if this was an artifact of a screen coating uniformly reflecting light in a way that made it seem like a floating layer the color of the screen.

In any case, the cumulative effect of all this for me was to blend the CG and live action, to obscure detail, and to make it difficult to really excamine the image.

The BD is of course the opposite of that. And while, yes, there are times when the CG is much more obvious as a result, it's still remarkably transparent for the most part.
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The haze could be that a 2k image was DMR'd to over 12k
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Nope, the 3D blu-ray version is not going to fit on one disc. Unless the AVC codec efficiency goes up significantly they will have no choice but to spread the movie to two discs. I like to see more bits thrown at the transfer.

I observed no banding of any kind (please indicate the timestamps) like some people say. That just might be a limitation of your viewing set. The 2D image is Reference PQ compared to others like it especially the all CGI portion of the movie. The live action looks too processed for my taste but it looks like that when I watched this on different versions of 3D and IMAX presentations in the theaters.

Until we have the 3D version this is the best we have.

Just a thought... How will Xylon, indeed anyone, be able to post and compare screenies from 3D films? Will threads like this disappear if the future is truly 3D?
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3-D Blu-rays use the MVC extension of MPEG-4 AVC. There are two 1080p streams on the disc, one for each eye. If you don't have a 3-D Blu-ray player, your player should be able to fall back on one stream, which is usually the left eye.
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Just a thought... How will Xylon, indeed anyone, be able to post and compare screenies from 3D films? Will threads like this disappear if the future is truly 3D?

That's an interesting point I think that still frames would still be valuable to evaluate level of detail and quality. But you'd also want to be able to evaluate the quality of the 3D image. Which would require posting up the 2 stills for the left and right 'channel', and some way to view them in 3D.

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Just a thought... How will Xylon, indeed anyone, be able to post and compare screenies from 3D films? Will threads like this disappear if the future is truly 3D?

Nah, they'll just be different.

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BD Screenshot: Lean close to the screen and cross your eyes.

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But in 2D the effects looked more fake then they did in 3D. Or was it that 3D masked the effects better?

Every aspect of the movie was easier to pick apart in 2D. Not just the special effects.

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Just a thought... How will Xylon, indeed anyone, be able to post and compare screenies from 3D films? Will threads like this disappear if the future is truly 3D?


Indeed.. How will 3-D screenshots be presented?

Hopefully, eventually there will be browser plugins much like YouTube's YT3D option, where one can pick their desired viewing format (left eye only, right eye only, frame packed over under, frame sequential .. etc, etc) For now, the crudest ways would be to present the left and right views independently .. or viewed as cross-eyed (R/L) as most can learn to free-view with a little bit of practice. And no light loss, no ghosting. Not too shabby.









Or (shudder) one could use the anaglyph formats in either color (or B& W for cleaner stereo) to showcase just the 3-D aspect of an image.











Or as a JIF, perhaps ??



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Is that real 3-D or upconverted?
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But in 2D the effects looked more fake then they did in 3D. Or was it that 3D masked the effects better?

The funny thing is I had just the opposite experience At the IMAX I watched this at, the 3d made things look more fake and the difference between the all CGI scenes and less CGI/human scenes was more jarring. At home, it was more seamless with both. I would like to check out Avatar in a RealD theater though which could change that impression. I have seen a couple films in RealD since Avatar and the overall quality/experience was considerably better than the IMAX to my eyes and at these particular theaters. I was pretty surprised how well the film worked in 2d at home and how I did not miss the 3d aspect all that much.
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Is that real 3-D or upconverted?

It's the real deal, taken from a German 3-D trailer. This shot is obviously not full rez, nor is it 16x9, as the eventual 3-D BluRay will be.
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And in the IMAX, it almost seemed like there was a light haze over the entire image the whole time.

One thing that can take you out of the movie is the movie screen itself. When I saw How to Train Your Dragon, in the flying scenes that were primarily light sky and clouds, the actual physical screen (doubtlessly new but it looked dirty) sort of floated in between the foreground and the background in the 3-D image. This is not so apparent in 2-D films.

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And in the IMAX, it almost seemed like there was a light haze over the entire image the whole time.

One thing that can take you out of the movie is the movie screen itself. When I saw How to Train Your Dragon, in the flying scenes that were primarily light sky and clouds, the actual physical screen (doubtlessly new but it looked dirty) sort of floated in between the foreground and the background in the 3-D image. This is not so apparent in 2-D films.

Sounds like your theater cheaped out with the screen. The 3D theaters are supposed to be equipped with special reflective screens which don't absorb any light which is what creates the "floating screen" effect.
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