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Nope, the 3D blu-ray version is not going to fit on one disc. Unless the AVC codec efficiency goes up significantly they will have no choice but to spread the movie to two discs. I like to see more bits thrown at the transfer.

I observed no banding of any kind (please indicate the timestamps) like some people say. That just might be a limitation of your viewing set. The 2D image is Reference PQ compared to others like it especially the all CGI portion of the movie. The live action looks too processed for my taste but it looks like that when I watched this on different versions of 3D and IMAX presentations in the theaters.

Until we have the 3D version this is the best we have.
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Blu-ray file size: 41.80 GB

Bitrate: 28.82 mbps AVC


Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00802.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:41:41 44,897,476,608  46,353,881,213  37.02   28.82   DTS-HD Master 5.1 4146Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DD AC3 5.1 448Kbps
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     RED_BIRD_2D_WW
Disc Size:      46,353,881,213 bytes
Protection:     BD+
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00802.MPLS
Length:                 2:41:41 (h:m:s)
Size:                   44,897,476,608 bytes
Total Bitrate:          37.02 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        28817 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         4146 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 4146 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             French          448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Portuguese      448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         33.040 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          1.535 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      23.981 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         23.820 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00002.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:41:41.691     44,897,476,608  37,022          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:17.960     30,589 kbps     55,557 kbps     00:00:55.847    39,891 kbps     00:05:07.932    37,270 kbps     00:05:02.885    159,461 bytes   830,273 bytes   00:03:03.349    
2               0:06:17.960     0:01:35.637     20,195 kbps     38,132 kbps     00:06:25.843    35,304 kbps     00:06:25.134    32,842 kbps     00:06:19.754    105,289 bytes   534,519 bytes   00:06:18.878    
3               0:07:53.598     0:04:11.292     28,075 kbps     40,843 kbps     00:09:57.805    35,370 kbps     00:09:57.888    34,422 kbps     00:09:53.801    146,373 bytes   671,348 bytes   00:10:11.819    
4               0:12:04.890     0:01:55.573     27,795 kbps     40,434 kbps     00:12:12.314    38,732 kbps     00:12:10.813    36,865 kbps     00:12:10.813    144,911 bytes   695,359 bytes   00:12:19.822    
5               0:14:00.464     0:06:00.109     29,594 kbps     57,476 kbps     00:17:49.401    37,636 kbps     00:18:25.521    36,593 kbps     00:18:23.143    154,289 bytes   706,960 bytes   00:18:36.490    
6               0:20:00.574     0:03:59.656     25,350 kbps     53,701 kbps     00:23:43.672    39,496 kbps     00:21:43.093    35,570 kbps     00:23:49.970    132,163 bytes   721,300 bytes   00:22:53.497    
7               0:24:00.230     0:02:53.047     30,786 kbps     47,860 kbps     00:25:26.525    39,308 kbps     00:24:42.147    36,819 kbps     00:25:26.525    160,502 bytes   630,823 bytes   00:25:26.566    
8               0:26:53.278     0:04:48.621     34,718 kbps     48,482 kbps     00:29:08.037    39,593 kbps     00:30:52.809    36,912 kbps     00:29:44.491    181,003 bytes   668,946 bytes   00:29:18.089    
9               0:31:41.899     0:01:51.528     27,093 kbps     42,230 kbps     00:33:16.369    35,091 kbps     00:33:20.623    33,183 kbps     00:33:13.449    141,251 bytes   595,801 bytes   00:33:33.428    
10              0:33:33.428     0:02:10.421     34,574 kbps     51,458 kbps     00:34:35.406    40,051 kbps     00:34:20.933    37,525 kbps     00:34:20.933    180,251 bytes   652,230 bytes   00:33:44.188    
11              0:35:43.849     0:07:48.009     30,928 kbps     44,988 kbps     00:37:04.096    37,050 kbps     00:37:01.302    36,394 kbps     00:35:44.225    161,245 bytes   508,688 bytes   00:42:10.236    
12              0:43:31.859     0:05:51.768     27,330 kbps     46,002 kbps     00:48:33.827    33,655 kbps     00:44:12.191    32,681 kbps     00:44:14.193    142,488 bytes   651,186 bytes   00:48:34.161    
13              0:49:23.627     0:05:06.347     25,757 kbps     38,982 kbps     00:50:13.885    36,724 kbps     00:49:46.149    33,886 kbps     00:49:44.356    134,283 bytes   699,276 bytes   00:50:14.594    
14              0:54:29.974     0:05:26.075     30,783 kbps     45,354 kbps     00:58:18.077    39,627 kbps     00:58:16.409    37,225 kbps     00:57:50.967    160,487 bytes   602,254 bytes   00:57:34.117    
15              0:59:56.050     0:05:14.147     26,021 kbps     39,498 kbps     01:01:07.705    34,825 kbps     01:01:12.502    32,720 kbps     01:03:37.730    135,659 bytes   641,816 bytes   01:03:40.775    
16              1:05:10.197     0:06:26.219     29,427 kbps     44,874 kbps     01:09:10.354    36,207 kbps     01:09:10.354    33,407 kbps     01:09:28.539    153,418 bytes   581,218 bytes   01:09:11.313    
17              1:11:36.417     0:03:34.589     28,264 kbps     37,210 kbps     01:11:48.220    32,959 kbps     01:13:53.512    32,284 kbps     01:13:53.137    147,353 bytes   525,480 bytes   01:13:24.817    
18              1:15:11.006     0:05:18.109     24,994 kbps     42,566 kbps     01:20:08.345    35,856 kbps     01:15:13.884    34,084 kbps     01:15:11.006    130,305 bytes   577,196 bytes   01:17:46.036    
19              1:20:29.115     0:04:12.794     25,494 kbps     42,277 kbps     01:21:11.074    34,391 kbps     01:21:10.365    32,395 kbps     01:21:10.365    132,916 bytes   635,357 bytes   01:21:25.130    
20              1:24:41.910     0:11:22.890     29,426 kbps     52,049 kbps     01:25:43.429    39,679 kbps     01:34:51.435    36,902 kbps     01:25:34.879    153,415 bytes   714,463 bytes   01:34:23.991    
21              1:36:04.800     0:01:50.985     28,519 kbps     32,396 kbps     01:37:29.635    30,892 kbps     01:36:10.055    30,416 kbps     01:37:19.083    148,683 bytes   448,256 bytes   01:37:55.786    
22              1:37:55.786     0:06:37.313     34,535 kbps     49,159 kbps     01:42:44.825    39,694 kbps     01:38:52.635    37,068 kbps     01:43:33.832    180,052 bytes   796,791 bytes   01:39:19.745    
23              1:44:33.099     0:03:42.388     32,504 kbps     46,895 kbps     01:47:48.503    39,796 kbps     01:47:18.140    37,249 kbps     01:45:32.534    169,460 bytes   677,404 bytes   01:47:48.712    
24              1:48:15.488     0:05:38.379     24,212 kbps     44,645 kbps     01:48:16.490    35,113 kbps     01:49:23.890    34,047 kbps     01:49:21.137    126,233 bytes   596,806 bytes   01:48:23.163    
25              1:53:53.868     0:01:39.015     31,523 kbps     45,941 kbps     01:54:47.755    39,360 kbps     01:54:08.591    36,749 kbps     01:55:04.772    164,349 bytes   510,631 bytes   01:54:08.675    
26              1:55:32.884     0:03:05.935     26,052 kbps     43,663 kbps     01:55:37.013    36,171 kbps     01:56:51.295    34,161 kbps     01:57:47.560    135,822 bytes   656,677 bytes   01:57:47.602    
27              1:58:38.819     0:03:26.748     27,347 kbps     45,948 kbps     02:00:14.040    39,436 kbps     02:00:10.453    36,962 kbps     01:59:04.929    142,574 bytes   702,398 bytes   01:59:14.939    
28              2:02:05.568     0:03:28.291     27,515 kbps     44,863 kbps     02:05:01.660    39,811 kbps     02:04:59.533    36,190 kbps     02:04:55.029    143,452 bytes   642,632 bytes   02:04:45.936    
29              2:05:33.859     0:04:27.976     27,392 kbps     42,036 kbps     02:08:10.891    37,613 kbps     02:07:53.415    36,006 kbps     02:07:08.370    142,809 bytes   685,054 bytes   02:05:37.029    
30              2:10:01.835     0:06:05.448     34,597 kbps     49,267 kbps     02:15:35.001    39,815 kbps     02:14:02.826    37,125 kbps     02:14:46.787    180,371 bytes   802,220 bytes   02:10:48.048    
31              2:16:07.283     0:03:43.556     34,699 kbps     48,203 kbps     02:17:56.851    39,465 kbps     02:17:54.933    37,036 kbps     02:17:19.397    180,904 bytes   703,033 bytes   02:19:35.075    
32              2:19:50.840     0:05:59.484     34,844 kbps     50,246 kbps     02:25:22.588    39,436 kbps     02:25:01.651    37,365 kbps     02:20:59.284    181,662 bytes   708,324 bytes   02:22:38.299    
33              2:25:50.324     0:05:23.740     31,652 kbps     46,702 kbps     02:30:35.693    38,294 kbps     02:26:55.640    37,036 kbps     02:27:09.320    165,017 bytes   670,742 bytes   02:27:08.569    
34              2:31:14.064     0:03:51.230     26,226 kbps     38,859 kbps     02:31:39.965    35,423 kbps     02:34:09.240    34,205 kbps     02:34:05.945    136,728 bytes   540,109 bytes   02:34:23.504    
35              2:35:05.295     0:06:35.395     14,797 kbps     41,284 kbps     02:35:48.172    35,213 kbps     02:35:13.679    33,779 kbps     02:35:13.595    77,145 bytes    772,426 bytes   02:35:58.182    
36              2:41:40.690     0:00:01.001     78 kbps         0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    425 bytes       534 bytes       02:41:41.650    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00002.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     9701.567                28,817                  34,946,248,728  190,060,476     
00002.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           9701.567                4,146                   5,027,442,684   28,836,317      
00002.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           9701.567                224                     271,648,384     1,515,895       
00002.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           9701.567                448                     543,296,768     3,031,790       
00002.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             spa (Spanish)           9701.567                448                     543,296,768     3,031,790       
00002.M2TS      4356 (0x1104)   0x81            AC3             fra (French)            9701.567                448                     543,296,768     3,031,790       
00002.M2TS      4357 (0x1105)   0x81            AC3             por (Portuguese)        9701.567                448                     543,296,768     3,031,790       
00002.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           9701.567                33                      40,067,718      231,791         
00002.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           9701.567                24                      28,886,798      166,599         
00002.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        9701.567                24                      29,081,707      167,613         
00002.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            9701.567                2                       1,862,075       10,763
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: DANCING WITH POCAHONTAS
Disc Size: 46,353,881,213 bytes
Protection: BD+
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00802.MPLS
Size: 44,897,476,608 bytes
Length: 2:41:41
Total Bitrate: 37.02 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 28817 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4146 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Audio: French / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Audio: Portuguese / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Audio: Spanish / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / Dolby Surround
Subtitle: English / 33.040 kbps
Subtitle: French / 1.535 kbps
Subtitle: Portuguese / 23.981 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 23.820 kbps




Blu-ray file size: 39.00 GB

Bitrate: 23.54 mbps AVC



Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00003.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:58:09 42,792,327,168  49,407,229,530  32.03   23.54   DTS-HD Master 5.1 4133Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DD AC3 5.1 448Kbps
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     AVATAR_CE_D1
Disc Size:      49,407,229,530 bytes
Protection:     BD+
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.4

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00003.MPLS
Length:                 2:58:09 (h:m:s)
Size:                   42,792,327,168 bytes
Total Bitrate:          32.03 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        23542 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         4133 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 4133 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             English         448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             French          448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Portuguese      448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         31.198 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         23.478 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      23.770 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         15.635 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         18.286 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         1.391 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         1.474 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           French          1.417 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00049.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:10:24.457     2,508,023,808   32,131          
00002.M2TS      0:10:24.457     0:17:46.023     3,754,377,216   28,175          
00034.M2TS      0:28:10.480     0:00:41.833     207,949,824     39,767          
00004.M2TS      0:28:52.313     0:01:28.129     411,543,552     37,358          
00035.M2TS      0:30:20.443     0:02:07.460     557,174,784     34,971          
00006.M2TS      0:32:27.904     0:15:08.908     3,954,278,400   34,805          
00036.M2TS      0:47:36.812     0:00:30.321     161,771,520     42,681          
00008.M2TS      0:48:07.134     0:05:26.617     1,143,300,096   28,003          
00037.M2TS      0:53:33.752     0:00:40.040     137,932,800     27,559          
00010.M2TS      0:54:13.792     0:03:34.172     736,456,704     27,509          
00050.M2TS      0:57:47.964     0:00:44.085     149,864,448     27,195          
00012.M2TS      0:58:32.050     0:04:41.948     1,112,420,352   31,564          
00038.M2TS      1:03:13.998     0:00:43.209     190,236,672     35,221          
00014.M2TS      1:03:57.208     0:06:00.068     1,508,149,248   33,508          
00051.M2TS      1:09:57.276     0:05:56.522     1,214,988,288   27,263          
00016.M2TS      1:15:53.799     0:01:43.520     347,412,480     26,848          
00040.M2TS      1:17:37.319     0:00:25.233     136,415,232     43,249          
00018.M2TS      1:18:02.552     0:07:51.721     1,907,091,456   32,343          
00041.M2TS      1:25:54.273     0:02:05.708     652,818,432     41,545          
00020.M2TS      1:27:59.982     0:07:45.381     1,738,641,408   29,888          
00042.M2TS      1:35:45.364     0:01:45.438     363,976,704     27,616          
00022.M2TS      1:37:30.803     0:09:20.893     2,182,053,888   31,123          
00052.M2TS      1:46:51.696     0:02:06.501     442,116,096     27,960          
00024.M2TS      1:48:58.198     0:43:42.161     11,028,019,200  33,646          
00044.M2TS      2:32:40.359     0:00:37.495     175,331,328     37,408          
00026.M2TS      2:33:17.855     0:01:57.367     531,535,872     36,231          
00045.M2TS      2:35:15.222     0:00:25.358     135,548,928     42,762          
00028.M2TS      2:35:40.581     0:05:09.934     1,602,816,000   41,372          
00046.M2TS      2:40:50.515     0:00:15.849     83,607,552      42,202          
00030.M2TS      2:41:06.364     0:05:30.705     1,620,652,032   39,205          
00047.M2TS      2:46:37.070     0:02:38.741     692,539,392     34,901          
00032.M2TS      2:49:15.812     0:03:53.983     852,836,352     29,159          
00048.M2TS      2:53:09.795     0:04:59.674     550,447,104     14,695
<---- END FORUMS PASTE ---->

QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: AVATAR_CE_D1
Disc Size: 49,407,229,530 bytes
Protection: BD+
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00003.MPLS
Size: 42,792,327,168 bytes
Length: 2:58:09
Total Bitrate: 32.03 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 23542 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
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Please edit your posts to use the "spoiler" option for the pics.

That way one can look at the most recent updates without having to wait for them all to download, which can be quite annoying on a slow connection.

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looks damn good, cant wait for to watch this with the fam on sunday
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Great A/B pics. No problems with downloads, pics just pop-up, comcast cable.
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Damn you Xylon *shakes fists in mock anger* Looks like i need to cave in and buy this one

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Damn you Xylon *shakes fists in mock anger* Looks like i need to cave in and buy this one

I was just thinking the same thing, was going to wait for rental but at the very least this is some impressive demo material.

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That is a good looking DVD
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Please edit your posts to use the "spoiler" option for the pics.

That way one can look at the most recent updates without having to wait for them all to download, which can be quite annoying on a slow connection.


what was spoiled?

"How long were you in Mexico?"
" uh...a week, no, no, a day..."
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That is a good looking DVD

No kidding. Nary a hint of edge enhancement. Probably as good as it gets.
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Watched it last night and thought the picture was great. No plastic looking DNR, EE that was obvious to me. I'm no expert and folks on here will find that stuff if its there. I just went by did it look like a film to me or a plastic looking fake it and it looked great to me.

Setup was Pioneer Elite Pro-150FD with Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD running through Yamaha RX-3800. I had few people over who had not seen this movie (we all have kids under 5 so going to the movies is ancient history for now). I saw it on a business trip in at at IMAX 3D and watched it last night on 2D and still thought it was awesome. My two cents!

Oh BTW make sure your Blu Ray player has the latest firmware update or you could sit down and be disappointed when you fire it up for the family. I did the whole firmware download yesterday and thank God I did as it took a while to download it as Pioneer's site must have been swamped.
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Damn you Xylon *shakes fists in mock anger* Looks like i need to cave in and buy this one

Trust me, Xylon's screencaps do not even begin to do this movie justice It is definitely a reference transfer and the audio is very impressive as well. It just happens to be a good movie too. I was originally going to rent it, but with the price under $20 for the combo, it was too hard to pass up.

Watched it last night and plan on watching it again very soon. This movie was made for Blu-Ray.
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Thanks Xylon for the pics! This was a great looking Blu-ray. First time I saw it and this Pandora world looked beautiful.

I felt the DVD looked pretty bad, but to be fair I popped in the DVD after seeing the Blu-ray. It might be good by DVD standards. Especially in the wide shots of pandora like the first scene where jake and the crew are on the helicopter and those purple creatures are flying next to them. Also in the scene were the commander is adressing his crew, the people look pretty bad. In comparison to Blu-ray that is. I barely watch DVD's but I can't imagine sitting through such a movie like Avatar on DVD and missing out on so much.
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I like the 16:9, and for screens these do look great.
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Does anyone think this movie looks a bit open-matte compositionally in 16:9? There tends to be an unusual amount of negative space in the frame

I know Cameron said 1.78:1 was the OAR but I wonder if it was only intended for IMAX screens originally and Cameron put it on blu-ray just to please both the OAR and the fill-my-TV crowd
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Trust me, Xylon's screencaps do not even begin to do this movie justice It is definitely a reference transfer and the audio is very impressive as well. It just happens to be a good movie too. I was originally going to rent it, but with the price under $20 for the combo, it was too hard to pass up.

Watched it last night and plan on watching it again very soon. This movie was made for Blu-Ray.

I trust you ! I watched it last night. When that space scene on the way to Pandora comes up I needed a second diaper ! The whole film looked great and as you said the audio is great as well. I really like the occasional aggressive use of the surrounds.

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I'll have to agree, these screen grabs are excellent, of course, but they really don't do justice to how good this movie looks on a big screen at home. Reference? Absolutely. And without hesitation, I'd say this is THE reference Blu-ray title to show off HDTV, not just A reference Blu-ray title.
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That was very

What made it especially funny was that he said "second"....as if this were simply reinforcing the first diaper he was already wearing in anticipation of watching this.

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Holy crap!
A double-down diaper rating from Art.
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Thanks Xylon for the pics! This was a great looking Blu-ray. First time I saw it and this Pandora world looked beautiful.

I felt the DVD looked pretty bad, but to be fair I popped in the DVD after seeing the Blu-ray. It might be good by DVD standards. Especially in the wide shots of pandora like the first scene where jake and the crew are on the helicopter and those purple creatures are flying next to them. Also in the scene were the commander is adressing his crew, the people look pretty bad. In comparison to Blu-ray that is. I barely watch DVD's but I can't imagine sitting through such a movie like Pandora on DVD and missing out on so much.

yeah it's good by DVD standards... doing the "resize the bluray shot" method of comparison the differences between a bluray shot resized to 720x480 then back to 1920x1080 and the upscaled dvd shots in the thread are small enough to be explained away by compression

it just looks that bad compared to the bluray because DVD just can't properly cut it for a movie as sharp and detailed as this one
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