Originally Posted by FoxyMulder
Who said anything about realism, i said it looks great, it adds something to some movies, you might not like it but then i don't like the super smooth look that for example Zodiac has, yes its very detailed but it didn't appeal to me.
Actually Spartacus was shot Super Technirama 70 which is a slightly grainer process than the usual 70mm shot films, Zulu was also shot in that format so it will not look exactly like Lawrence Of Arabia if restored correctly.
Spielberg also shot Minority Report with a grainy look and indeed i could rattle off other films, Michael Bay loves to add grain to his films for specific scenes, as do other directors, it's not about realism, it's about art.
it is the size of the negative and the print that reduces the grain to nominal. Large format film has no more or less grain per area than does ISO50 of 35mm film. It is just when blown up, there is less grain per square inch in large format.
Same with the Spartacus and LOA.
problem is people been watching the 35 grainy stuff shot with anamorphic (squeeze) lens that is reproduced on to similar film stock for the theater, and then at the theater, the print is unsqueezed onto the screen. Then grainy look of a dirty window, is very hard to avoid. And then there is film flicker from the bars separating each negative that is not nearly so noticeable with the 70mm--mainly because they are not there.... (yeah I am one of those who sees the flicker and has to try to ignore it at the movie house or at home)
And the effect of the lenses between the two formats is different also.
People been watching grainy dirty movies for so long, they are "ingrained" in the brain to think grain is normal and sign of great art.....
this how many people used to feel about black and white film--movie and still shots....gee the best photos have always been black and white. That is great art as some would say. (and adding
grain to a film per Mike bey, well that is an even bigger joke)
Unfortunately given the choice of the grain and some digital noise or the very screwed up methods of removal and EE, DNR, et all, such that the movie looks like plastic wax figurines, better the grain than THAT CRUD