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post #31 of 42 Old 07-28-2010, 03:17 PM
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Well, it's nice to be wrong sometimes.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Br...5/#Screenshots

Same old master, I'm not impressed. I guess it's still better than what could have happened though.
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I'll wait for another site to review it and actually compare it to the HD DVD. If it's the same, fine. But any worse...oh gees.
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I just re-watched the HD DVD (more closely, paying attention to the transfer more this time, and from a proper distance, ~ size/distance to a theatrical showing) and the HD DVD is pleasing IMO. I noticed a few instances of EE (opening credits, clock, closing frame), but even pausing at various instances where EE would be most noticable, I saw none in most cases. No real EE problem, no pasty DNR. Admittedly, it is not a very detailed transfer but at the same time it looks similar to films of that period that I've seen recently (past few years) at a local 'indie' theater. This particular theater actually showed The Breakfast Club a couple months back but I didn't make it. Honestly, I think it would have looked similar. In the end, I'm pretty happy with the HD DVD's transfer of this film and it is even more surprising given it's a single layer disc. If the BD is similar, I don't see much of a problem.
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Same old master, I'm not impressed. I guess it's still better than what could have happened though.

Well, see, my standards and expectations for Universal catalog titles are in the toilet. So, if we are getting what was on the HD DVD with no additional processing, I am thrilled. A *real* remaster? I never seriously expected that.
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BD comparisons to msgohan's HD DVD screenshots above (fixed height for better comparing):









The increased level of grain is due to the significantly increased video bitrate (2x actually - 16mbps on HD DVD vs 32mbps on BD), not less DNR used.
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thanks for new comparison, very slight upgrade in grain...if the new blu is under 10bux i'll buy. otherwise i will stick with my hd-dvd.
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I'm as hesitant as the next guy when it comes to Universals BD releases, but this is a very nice looking and natural image. For once I'm glad that the BD is better then the HDDVD. It's slight but with the direct comparison shots above it's quite obvious. The hair and the texture in the clothing is ever-so-slightly sharper on the BD, along with a noticeably better grain structure. I doubt it would be noticeable during playback though. Since I can't see any halos in the these grabs or when I watched the BD myself, I can only assume it's from the higher bitrate. Finally, Universal didn't botch, but actually improved the image on it's way to Blu-ray. Lets hope this is a trend...
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In the BD there is some weirdness in the reflection on Molly's face up where it meets the top of the image. I don't know if it a compression issue or some thing from turning up the sharpness. It just seems blotchy on the BD. Over all I do like the BD image better.

Is this one of those damn flipper disks?
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Well, *maybe* Universal has finally learned this is all they had to do the whole time with some of those other HD DVD to BD titles. Don't add contrast, EE, and DNR - increase the bitrate and leave it be.

I'm quite happy as this is a title I've been waiting for.
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I'm quite happy as this is a title I've been waiting for.

+1. I never owned the HD-DVD, so buying this was soley riding on whether or not Universal did a DNR smear-job. Thankfully they didn't.

My only other point of comparison was the HDTV broadcast. This BD seems to be from the same master, but clearly the improved bitrate results in a much stronger image.

Can it look better? I suspect that in the coming years Universal will remaster BREAKFAST CLUB with even finer results. For now, this looks quite nice (and sounds excellent) so I'm very glad to own it.
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Wal-Mart has this for $20. Great movie, but I'm done paying anything close to that for catalog titles like this. Wake me up when it's $10.

Blu-ray = 775
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Agreed. It will surely be $10-12 within a few months or by Christmas at Amazon as I'll wait too even though I really want it. I've become a hell of a lot more patient with catalog title purchases.
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