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Germany just released their version through Miramax today. Might this be the ultimate version?



http://www.amazon.de/Aviator-Collect...4401821&sr=8-2

It's a BD-50 with DTS-HD MA AND a ton of extras!

Audio commentary by master director Martin Scorsese, editor Thelma Schoonmaker and producer
Additional Scene
Life without Limits - The Making Of by AVIATOR
How Howard Hughes revolutionized the air
Modern Marvels: Howard Hughes - A documentary of the U.S. History Channel
The Obsession of Howard Hughes
Experts debate with the widow of Howard Hughes and the filmmakers
panel discussion with Leonardo DiCaprio and Alan Alda
Glance behind the scenes of an Oscar-winning masterpiece:
■ Flying high: The visual effects of AVIATOR
■ The equipment of AVIATOR: The work of Star-film designer Dante Ferretti and Oscar-winner
■ Noble gowns: Oscar-winning costumes by Sandy Powell
■ Hollywood Glamour: The make-up and hairstyles in AVIATOR
■ Epic Film Music: The music of Oscar-winner Howard Shore
■ A Musical Family: Loudon, Rufus and Martha Wainwright
AVIATOR-Soundtrack Trailer
Photo Gallery

Anyone pick it up?

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I don't know but I love this film.

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Will it be region locked and will it have permanent German subtitles? And did they do a new and improved encode and/or use a new transfer or just recycle the WB video encode?

Or... is WB getting a new deluxe edition ready for the states and Miramax is licensing that version?

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Those look like all or most of the features on the 2 disc dvd and the HD DVD.
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This was from a DI so a new transfer is out of the question, which is unfortunate because I believe it might have some DNR baked into it (the grain structure is a bit sluggish/smeary.)
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This is one film from Leonardo I havent seen yet. Will have to give it a veiwing soon.

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This was from a DI so a new transfer is out of the question, which is unfortunate because I believe it might have some DNR baked into it (the grain structure is a bit sluggish/smeary.)

I thought it looked DNR'd in the theatre, and that was watching a 35mm print.

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http://www.blurayreviews.ch/reviews/...ray-review.htm

I have the Dutch version and it has some EE here and there and compression artifacts on low bit rates scenes.

Blu-ray : 340
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http://www.blurayreviews.ch/reviews/...ray-review.htm

I have the Dutch version and it has some EE here and there and compression artifacts on low bit rates scenes.

The good news is that it's a different encode from the WB (mpeg4 vs vc1) and it's got lossless sound. It's also got NTSC extras.

The only questions that remain are if it's region free and if it has burned-in subs.

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We really NEED a new American release...with lossless this time!
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So did anyone pick it up? Answer our questions?

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I'm anxious to watch this and also awaiting opinions on the quality.
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no forced subs and region free.
no compression issue or dnr or ee
grain is intact

lets you choose language after all the usual Disney preview trailers (can be skipped)

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Just got the German version and it is, indeed, the winner!!!

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