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Redbox to Roll-Out 4K Rentals

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At the Digital Entertainment Group’s (DEG) CES party last evening, redbox announced it would begin a rollout of UltraHD Blu-ray disc rentals starting in some test markets. There was no mention of which markets would be selected – or how many of them would be included – just that the UltraHD trial would begin in markets that already show a strong interest in Blu-ray disc rental.

This is huge news for 4K movie lovers, as there has yet been a way to enjoy 4K movies without buying them. And we all know there are plenty of movies you’d love to see…once. When asked about price one representative told me that hadn’t been finalized but that she expected it to command a slight premium over current Blu-ray rentals, which currently cost $2.00, estimating around $2.50 - $3.00 per rental.
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Family Video is a current video store chain, there are three in my area and they carry UHD discs for rental. I don't think it is a nation wide chain so you may not have one in your area, but it is worth checking out.
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exactly Jawaburger! Headed there right after work to see what is available tonight.
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I'm thinking of getting a subscription with Bluray Rental dot come in order to rent UHD discs which Netflix does not carry. Can current users tell me what their experience has been with this rental site when it comes to UHD movie availability. Some of the earlier posts in this thread seemed to indicate long waiting times but to be fair, they date back to early 2016 when fewer UHD movies were available and less people had the hardware to take advantage of UHD capabilities. Thanks in advance.

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Long waits still happen. But I manage to get on average 4 UHD disks and 1 regular BR each month, to fill up my 5 disk plan. I just pop in and rent another title each week regardless of whether the prior week's rental has reached me.

But I don't mind seeing a new release several weeks after release, which happens some times. If you want to rent new releases and see them on release date, you will probably be disappointed. No disk rental service seems able to guarantee that or achieve that.

And with online rentals from places like Apple containing excellent quality copies (albeit without the premium audio), I would guess that fewer and fewer disk based services are going to survive.
I'm on the East coast and I can easily get 12 to 15 rentals a month from 3d-blurayrental. If I have the time to watch that much. I just need to make sure I reserve titles when they first become available. Which is typically one week before they are released. As long as I do that, 12 to 15 rentals a month is not a problem on the 3 out plan.

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I'm thinking of getting a subscription with Bluray Rental dot come in order to rent UHD discs which Netflix does not carry. Can current users tell me what their experience has been with this rental site when it comes to UHD movie availability. Some of the earlier posts in this thread seemed to indicate long waiting times but to be fair, they date back to early 2016 when fewer UHD movies were available and less people had the hardware to take advantage of UHD capabilities. Thanks in advance.

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I live in Pittsburgh and without a subscription plan, renting one disc at a time, if I ordered the disc on Friday, I would typically get it by Thur/Fri.


I have been renting UHD discs that have been out for while so no other delay. Just joined the subscription plan, with being able to only watch one movie a week, I'm still coming out ahead of the per UHD disc rental.
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Thanks, folks.

I've been reading that Netflix/RedBox & some other rental sites are "hit or miss" when it comes to the audio quality of rentals. Such as, they might only have DD instead of Atmos (if otherwise available).

Will the 3-D rental place mentioned in this thread have the same potential issues?

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Thanks, folks.

I've been reading that Netflix/RedBox & some other rental sites are "hit or miss" when it comes to the audio quality of rentals. Such as, they might only have DD instead of Atmos (if otherwise available).

Will the 3-D rental place mentioned in this thread have the same potential issues?
No. http://www.store-3d-blurayrental.com/ stocks retail editions, not rental specials.

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Outstanding! Thanks again, Bill.

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At 2 titles a week, you run out of "good" content pretty rapidly. You are consuming it at a rate faster than they are creating it. Why BD vs streaming?
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At 2 titles a week, you run out of "good" content pretty rapidly. You are consuming it at a rate faster than they are creating it. Why BD vs streaming?
There are hundreds of BD titles that I want in my video collection.
Streaming does not allow me to get 100% video & audio quality and you lose some audio options.
Streaming is convenient. But it is not the correct choice for a video/audiophile.

I've spent a lot of money on my projector, video chain and audio system.
Streaming movies... well that's sort of like disabling four of the cylinders in a V8 Corvette.

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There are hundreds of BD titles that I want in my video collection.
I assumed from the title that you were only interested in rental. I agree that most BDs look better to me than streaming, but even BDs can vary enormously in quality. I have some DVDs that look as good as some of the BDs I have viewed. We get good or bad quality no matter how we view. I used to buy a lot of disks and have a lot DVDs and far fewer BDs. I found that I seldom viewed them more than a couple times and now seldom buy titles.
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Has anyone heard of this 4k rental company?

http://4kave.com/index.php

Seems reasonable but is it legit?
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Has anyone heard of this 4k rental company?

http://4kave.com/index.php

Seems reasonable but is it legit?
That's what I would like to know too.
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Back when there were lots on independent rental stores it wasn't uncommon to have to reserve titles in advance, it helped to be friendly with the people who worked there to get the best shot a reserving things.

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How about rent4k.com

Anybody have luck with them?

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I just took the plunge and signed up for 4kave silver subscription - 2 discs at a time. Had 2 movies in my queue with "low" availability. I emailed their customer support to ask when they will ship out. They said the movies were rented out. So "low" means rented out. And a lot of their movies are low. If you're not signed up with them, the availability bar will always show a full blue bar. But when you sign up and put the movie in your queue, the correct availability bar will show up. Deceiving. Will update once I actually get something.
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I just took the plunge and signed up for 4kave silver subscription - 2 discs at a time. Had 2 movies in my queue with "low" availability. I emailed their customer support to ask when they will ship out. They said the movies were rented out. So "low" means rented out. And a lot of their movies are low. If you're not signed up with them, the availability bar will always show a full blue bar. But when you sign up and put the movie in your queue, the correct availability bar will show up. Deceiving. Will update once I actually get something.
Update: I have 2 movies being sent to me now after having a hard time finding anything in stock. Also, no tracking numbers provided since they send out through regular USPS. Out of the 25 movies I added, only 3 are available to rent. On the plus side, their customer service email and chat through the site have been very responsive and helpful. Too bad their inventory sucks.
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Any more updates for 4kave.com? I signed up, and one of the items on my list (Shape of Water) was shipped right out, so no issues so far. The other items in my queue look like they might take some time, so I'll have to see.

This is all very low tech so far. The disks come in a plain white envelope with stamps. The return envelope is the same. Just an envelope, disk, a tiny layer of bubble wrap and that's it. The return address show a local suburban area near Dallas.

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Anyone have friends that work at redbox?

Where are the uhd rentals they promised?


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The redbox facebook page says they'll be rolling out 4k rentals in test markets no later than early June.
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The redbox facebook page says they'll be rolling out 4k rentals in test markets no later than early June.
I hope my area is one of them.

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I hope my area is one of them.
That's interesting. What do they bump in terms of "stock" at their rental units? There is only a certain amount of discs that each box can hold. I'd be skeptical about a proliferation of 4K discs anytime soon in your area unless it's a major metropolitan location.

I'd be happy if Redbox got rid of DVD's. There are many movies I'd like to watch that I could rent from Redbox but they are in DVD format - not Bluray.

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That's interesting. What do they bump in terms of "stock" at their rental units? There is only a certain amount of discs that each box can hold. I'd be skeptical about a proliferation of 4K discs anytime soon in your area unless it's a major metropolitan location.

I'd be happy if Redbox got rid of DVD's. There are many movies I'd like to watch that I could rent from Redbox but they are in DVD format - not Bluray.
I'm in the DC area which is a major area. I know they rolled out the game rentals early in some of the locations in my area. So I hope they do the same with UHD BD. Although I haven't used RedBox much lately. But if they start having UHD BD rentals, I would easily use them six times a month.

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I'm in the DC area which is a major area. I know they rolled out the game rentals early in some of the locations in my area. So I hope they do the same with UHD BD. Although I haven't used RedBox much lately. But if they start having UHD BD rentals, I would easily use them six times a month.
It will be interesting to see how Redbox handles any 4K rental rollout. I think it’s great that there will be more availability of 4K discs. As I mentioned earlier, something will have to give on Redbox product mix based on the number of rental capacity of each Redbox location.

As far as I’m concerned, Redbox can totally eliminate all non Blu-ray Discs and just stock Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray. I think that would be a more profitable model going forward.

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It will be interesting to see how Redbox handles any 4K rental rollout. I think it’s great that there will be more availability of 4K discs. As I mentioned earlier, something will have to give on Redbox product mix based on the number of rental capacity of each Redbox location.

As far as I’m concerned, Redbox can totally eliminate all non Blu-ray Discs and just stock Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray. I think that would be a more profitable model going forward.
The problem is that more people probably rent their DVDs than their BD titles. That is certainly the case with sales of discs. So I would expect rentals to also be the same.

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The problem is that more people probably rent their DVDs than their BD titles. That is certainly the case with sales of discs. So I would expect rentals to also be the same.
Something has to give. Either the reduction of regular DVD's or Bluray's to make way for "4K" discs. UNLESS they just have a few dedicated 4K Redbox locations in specific markets. And I'm sure the price is going to be higher for a 4K rental. I doubt you'll be able to visit a 4K Redbox site six times a month. I just don't see them having that much supply.

It has to be the right profit model for Redbox to make this work. And, as you say, they can't sacrifice their existing customer base.

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Something has to give. Either the reduction of regular DVD's or Bluray's to make way for "4K" discs. UNLESS they just have a few dedicated 4K Redbox locations in specific markets. And I'm sure the price is going to be higher for a 4K rental. I doubt you'll be able to visit a 4K Redbox site six times a month. I just don't see them having that much supply.

It has to be the right profit model for Redbox to make this work. And, as you say, they can't sacrifice their existing customer base.
There aren't enough of "us" in the world - your garden variety rental customer doesn't care about quality anywhere near as much as we do.

I would expect 1080p blu-rays to slowly retreat as uhd blu-rays become a bigger thing. But I think you're going to continue to see all 3.
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Any more updates for 4kave.com? I signed up, and one of the items on my list (Shape of Water) was shipped right out, so no issues so far. The other items in my queue look like they might take some time, so I'll have to see.

This is all very low tech so far. The disks come in a plain white envelope with stamps. The return envelope is the same. Just an envelope, disk, a tiny layer of bubble wrap and that's it. The return address show a local suburban area near Dallas.
I'm almost done with my first month. Shipping is relatively quick since they are in Texas and so am I. Customer service is also very responsive. But their inventory is not that robust. I never could get the movies I really wanted. I'm thinking about trying 3d blu ray.
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I'm almost done with my first month. Shipping is relatively quick since they are in Texas and so am I. Customer service is also very responsive. But their inventory is not that robust. I never could get the movies I really wanted. I'm thinking about trying 3d blu ray.
Thanks for update. I've rented "Shape of Water", returned it, and a week later received "Three Billboards". Pretty fast, but as you say, the inventory is very limited.

I looked at 3d blu ray, https://www.store-3d-blurayrental.co...ory-s/1868.htm, large inventory but am bit confusing on rental policy. I see they have a subscription starting at $8.99/month, but it looks like you can rent singles for $7.99 without a subscription. Is that the way it works?

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