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UHD Blu-Rays - Report Your FIRST IMPRESSIONS Here!

(I figured it would be good to have a thread in which people can report and read about how the new UHD Blu-Ray format actually looks, without having to search through many other threads, untangled from posts concerning trouble-shooting etc.).


If you have been able to watch any UHD Blu-Rays, here is your thread in which to report your impressions of the new format.


And please include what type of display you are using.

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(I figured it would be good to have a thread in which people can report and read about how the new UHD Blu-Ray format actually looks, without having to search through many other threads, untangled from posts concerning trouble-shooting etc.).


If you have been able to watch any UHD Blu-Rays, here is your thread in which to report your impressions of the new format.


And please include what type of display you are using.

Thank you!
This post sums up how I feel about it at the moment. Maybe if they ever produce a "Real" 4K disc I will feel differently then. However, for now it just seems like a scam.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/150-bl...l#post41512417
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I dunno. I just watched Hitman and it was pretty WOW.

I don't have it on BD to compare, but it was gorgeous.

My chain is the Sammy to an Integra to a Sony 350ES 4K projector.

The movie itself was ridiculous, but many, many times during it we stopped watching the film and said "wow"' or "look how clear that is" or to remark on other vivid details.

I don't know what the general opinion will be, but the wife and I thought it was gorgeous video.

Just two pennies from my thought bank.
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I dunno. I just watched Hitman and it was pretty WOW.

I don't have it on BD to compare, but it was gorgeous.
Fox initially stated there would be two discs, one a standard BD. That is not the case?
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Fox initially stated there would be two discs, one a standard BD. That is not the case?
LMAO!! It was so late when we watched it, and I was SO excited to be watching it... that I didn't see it came with a BD. LOL!!!

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I watched Kingsmen on my non-HDR 65" Sony 900A and it looked great. Much better than the Blu-ray, which looked pretty dull in comparison. Although detail level was the same, the picture looked much fuller, sharper and with more dynamic range (even on my TV which doesn't have HDR). Don't know if it's due more to the encoded HDR, higher bit rate, or both. But yes I'm very impressed so far and looking forward to getting "real" 4k content to play on it. Surprised actually, I didn't think a 2K DI would look this good on my TV.
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I watched Kingsmen on my non-HDR 65" Sony 900A and it looked great. Much better than the Blu-ray, which looked pretty dull in comparison. Although detail level was the same, the picture looked much fuller, sharper and with more dynamic range (even on my TV which doesn't have HDR). Don't know if it's due more to the encoded HDR, higher bit rate, or both. But yes I'm very impressed so far and looking forward to getting "real" 4k content to play on it. Surprised actually, I didn't think a 2K DI would look this good on my TV.
Doesn't UHD BD have a wider colorspace then standard BD that many HDTVs have implemented years ago? I do not mean HDR.
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Doesn't UHD BD have a wider colorspace then standard BD that many HDTVs have implemented years ago? I do not mean HDR.
Yes, but I think my TV only has 8 bit color (though not sure about that). Maybe I'm seeing more highs/lows because the BD isn't capable of showing them as well as the UHD, even though I don't have HDR?
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Yes, but I think my TV only has 8 bit color (though not sure about that). Maybe I'm seeing more highs/lows because the BD isn't capable of showing them as well as the UHD, even though I don't have HDR?
I am pretty sure every brand name 4K TV would support the wider colorspace (again I do not mean HDR) since 1080p TVs have had it for several years. It would be a mild difference however.
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I am pretty sure every brand name 4K TV would support the wider colorspace (again I do not mean HDR) since 1080p TVs have had it for several years. It would be a mild difference however.
Well whatever it is, it looks great!
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Is Exodus supposed to be unusually dark?

Watched parts of it on the EF9500 OLED. Scorch Trials looked terrific, but Exodus seems REALLY dark with details crushed by shadows and blacks.
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Is Exodus supposed to be unusually dark?

Watched parts of it on the EF9500 OLED. Scorch Trials looked terrific, but Exodus seems REALLY dark with details crushed by shadows and blacks.
No.

Hdr sometimes does this. If it's dark, go into the players settings under user and bump the brightness up a couple notches.
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I thought the martian looked crazy good.

The resolution easy beats the blu ray in most scenes. I put the blu ray in for 5 minutes and besides the massive difference in color and vibrancy, the BD looked soft and was nowhere near as sharp as the uhd version.

Be careful judging an entire format on 1 or 2 scenes. Some scenes may not benefit from the bump but I'm guessing most will.
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My first impression? Wow!!! I can't wait to get more UHD BD titles. Because the Kingsman UHD BD looked excellent. Between what 4K and HDR showed, I was extremely pleased. And if the Kingsman UHD BD was actually from a 2K master, a UHD BD with a real 4K master must look sweet. The Kingsman UHD BD showed much more detail than the upscaled regular BD.

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No.

Hdr sometimes does this. If it's dark, go into the players settings under user and bump the brightness up a couple notches.
Well I have it at home now and the issue is no longer there. Guess it was just the TV settings on the unit that had it on.

The picture is mindblowing
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Thanks for the posts so far. Many of us don't have the opportunity to see any UHD Blu-Rays yet, so you folks are the vanguard.

Keep them coming, please.
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Just something to keep in mind (although most know this already).

Everyone posting has different set ups and settings (ie. hardware, viewing area, settings, etc...) and this has never been as critical to the viewing experience (it would seem) as NOW, with THIS format.

HDR. 8 bit. 10 bit. 12 bit. And on and on and on. It is fun to share my experiences and to see those of others, but it is truly not indicative of what YOU may see on your rig.

Unlike when we all got BD 10 years ago, and so much of the experience was consistent, this is not the same here. Too many variables and too many possible differences from user to user. So take what you read with a grain of salt. See for yourself. Judge for yourself.

To me, Hitman and Kingsman were MIND BLOWING. Wish they had Atmos, but yeah.

Have yet to watch The Martian. Will do so later. Hoping it is great

Have fun. Exciting time for A/V Nerds!
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I thought the martian looked crazy good.

The resolution easy beats the blu ray in most scenes. I put the blu ray in for 5 minutes and besides the massive difference in color and vibrancy, the BD looked soft and was nowhere near as sharp as the uhd version.

Be careful judging an entire format on 1 or 2 scenes. Some scenes may not benefit from the bump but I'm guessing most will.
Were you flipping HDMI inputs between two players?

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Everyone posting has different set ups and settings (ie. hardware, viewing area, settings, etc...) and this has never been as critical to the viewing experience (it would seem) as NOW, with THIS format.

HDR. 8 bit. 10 bit. 12 bit. And on and on and on. It is fun to share my experiences and to see those of others, but it is truly not indicative of what YOU may see on your rig.
A calibration supplement like Fox had on it's DVDs is really needed me thinks. Although getting off-topic.

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Unlike when we all got BD 10 years ago, and so much of the experience was consistent, this is not the same here. Too many variables and too many possible differences from user to user. So take what you read with a grain of salt. See for yourself. Judge for yourself.
There are numerous posts on this site alone that wrote BDs with awful pq as looking 'great', so yeah I am not taking everything at face value...
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heres a scene in the martian where i found the resolution increase to make a pretty big impact. The UHD version here is pretty obviously sharper. I also lowered the color down almost 10 points.

by the way, anybody is more than welcome to share these pictures because these pictures are 100% indisputable that a UHD disc from a "2k DI" can have a great impact on PQ with resolution alone.
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Will be ordering player as well as discs from Foxconnect today. Wondering if it will make a difference on Sony XBR-850A which is a couple of years old with no HDR. If I recall correctly it's a 10 bit panel.

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heres another couple of pix.

1st pic is SDR with color at 55

2nd pic is HDR with color at 43 (lowered the color to simulate the SDR version closer)

3rd pic is HDR with color at 55

to me, its clear that the arm/leg is sharper.

I am curious if the bump in color and pop gives a perceived sharpness rather than real sharpness.
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heres another couple of pix.

1st pic is SDR with color at 55

2nd pic is HDR with color at 43 (lowered the color to simulate the SDR version closer)

3rd pic is HDR with color at 55

to me, its again obvious that the arm/leg and everything is sharper.
Ray, what is your display, you have a bunch listed below, so it's not cleat at all ?
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Ray, what is your display, you have a bunch listed below, so it's not cleat at all ?

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heres a scene in the martian where i found the resolution increase to make a pretty big impact. The UHD version here is pretty obviously sharper. I also lowered the color down almost 10 points.

by the way, anybody is more than welcome to share these pictures because these pictures are 100% indisputable that a UHD disc from a "2k DI" can have a great impact on PQ with resolution alone.
The last thing photos of TVs are is 100% indisputable. In the HDR9 photo I see in the woman's laptop cover the tell-tale stepping artifacts.

In your second post the stepping is plaguing all photos and the 2nd (hdrk) has blowouts wiping out detail like the lettering on the legs and the dust. I fail to see any actual detail increase so far but that is not surprising since the images are loading below 1080p never mind a UHD resolution.

I do not know if it's the low image resolution, your camera or photo handling introduced the stepping or is in the UHD BD.

Taking photos of TV has always been problematic to put it mildly and more a judgement of the person's doing it rather then of a TV set.
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Watched part of Hitman, now just started Kingsman, Seems to me that Kingsman is a little sharper than Hitman? Hope these discs really arent the full potential. Some of the stuff that I have streamed on M-GO, Netflix has looked better. No issues playing discs, Deep color ON, Vizio M70-C3.
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Got lots of color banding with The Martian. Not sure if anyone else is seeing this. I'm very disappointed with this format. Just hoping it's just a defect in the disc but it keeps showing up mostly in Martian planet scenes.

My TV set is 55JS8500. UHD color is off but turning on makes the picture darker. I might buy another high speed hdmi cable to if it goes away.

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Got lots of color banding with The Martian. Not sure if anyone else is seeing this. I'm very disappointed with this format. Just hoping it's just a defect in the disc but it keeps showing up mostly in Martian planet scenes.

My TV set is 55JS8500. UHD color is off but turning on makes the picture darker. I might buy another high speed hdmi cable to if it goes away.

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I noticed the same on my hu8550 and others have mentioned the same. Its the material, not your display. Its really only noticeable the first few scenes. Scenes towards the end show no banding from what I could tell.
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Got lots of color banding with The Martian. Not sure if anyone else is seeing this. I'm very disappointed with this format. Just hoping it's just a defect in the disc but it keeps showing up mostly in Martian planet scenes.

My TV set is 55JS8500. UHD color is off but turning on makes the picture darker. I might buy another high speed hdmi cable to if it goes away.

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http://www.imgur.com/VzNzzSw
I see nothing like this in my setup with a Sony 850C. The sky colors are nice and smooth. Although I've only watched the first five minutes. But I was specifically looking for the banding like in the pictures. ANd it isn't there in my setup.

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I noticed the same on my hu8550 and others have mentioned the same. Its the material, not your display. Its really only noticeable the first few scenes. Scenes towards the end show no banding from what I could tell.
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I see nothing like this in my setup with a Sony 850C. The sky colors are nice and smooth. Although I've only watched the first five minutes. But I was specifically looking for the banding like in the pictures. ANd it isn't there in my setup.
Turning off HDMI Deep color in the player settings and turning on UHD color in TV makes the banding go away but picture is a bit dimmer.
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heres a scene in the martian where i found the resolution increase to make a pretty big impact. The UHD version here is pretty obviously sharper. I also lowered the color down almost 10 points.

by the way, anybody is more than welcome to share these pictures because these pictures are 100% indisputable that a UHD disc from a "2k DI" can have a great impact on PQ with resolution alone.
I couldn't tell which one was UHD blu ray and which one was 1080p Blu ray from your pictures.
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