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I've been wending my way through the Skywalker Saga and got to The Last Jedi yesterday. I was initially disappointed when, at least, The Last Jedi that was in the box set wasn't the original Dolby Vision release. After watching the HDR10 version for a while, I switched over to my Dolby Vision release and found it to be a more enjoyable viewing experience. So I replaced the included new HDR10 version with the Dolby Vision disc and in the box it will remain. The HDR10 disc is now in the standalone cover.
Agreed, but I'd go one step further and say that I prefer watching all the Disney+ streamed versions because of Dolby Vision over the 4K Blu-rays.

I usually can't hear the difference between the DD+ vs TrueHD soundtrack or see the difference in compression between Disney+ and the 4K Blu-ray despite the considerable compression differences.

The positive difference/impact from Dolby Vision is immediately apparent to me over HDR10 though.

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Last night I finally finished the box set with Rise of Skywalker. Its HDR10 image was definitely better than Last Jedi's. It had a more dynamic feel and more pop. I'm not sure why Last Jedi seemed somewhat bland by comparison. I'll probably take another look at its HDR10 version but I'll take the Dynamic setting on my Panny UB820 up a few notches to see if it makes a difference. One thing that stood out was how much better the bonus features were on the last trilogy compared to the first two. It was a sign of how far the production of these extras had come as the years passed.
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How does the 1080p version of ANH on this release compare with the 2011 one?
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The Phantom Menace SteelBook. Allegedly selling fast.

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I swore that I would never buy this movie again, but my completist collecting impulse is hurting this time.
You must be a real collector. After all, how often do you look at any SteelBook cover in your collection?
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How does the 1080p version of ANH on this release compare with the 2011 one?
I think it's the same version as the one on Disney +, if that's the case, then it is a darn good version IMO. I have the 2011 blu ray set and decided to check out the Disney+ version for giggle, and even for a streaming service it was a VERY good version.
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You must be a real collector. After all, how often do you look at any SteelBook cover in your collection?
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Agreed, but I'd go one step further and say that I prefer watching all the Disney+ streamed versions because of Dolby Vision over the 4K Blu-rays.

I usually can't hear the difference between the DD+ vs TrueHD soundtrack or see the difference in compression between Disney+ and the 4K Blu-ray despite the considerable compression differences.

The positive difference/impact from Dolby Vision is immediately apparent to me over HDR10 though.
I feel the same way. Disney+'s DV versions definitely felt more colorful and deep than the 4K Blu's, with the 4K Blu's naturally being better at less choppiness in action scenes and sharper overall. Before I gave away the unwanted Disney Trilogy discs, I borrowed a friend's DV version of Last Jedi to compare that with the ones in this set. Difference was night and day. Just don't know why Disney has this war with DV on their Blu-Rays. It looked fantastic on Black Panther.

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If you're seeing a "night and day" difference between HDR10 and Dolby Vision, what that tells me is that your display doesn't do a very good job of tone mapping HDR10.

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If you're seeing a "night and day" difference between HDR10 and Dolby Vision, what that tells me is that your display doesn't do a very good job of tone mapping HDR10.
Yeah this is just exposing the differences in how your display is processing each format. On a properly calibrated display the difference between DV and HDR10 is minuscule at best. You literally need to pause the frame and pull out a magnifying glass. Here is a great illustration:


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Yeah this is just exposing the differences in how your display is processing each format. On a properly calibrated display the difference between DV and HDR10 is minuscule at best. You literally need to pause the frame and pull out a magnifying glass. Here is a great illustration:


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I actually listened to him.
Sounds like he likes DV more.

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I actually listened to him.
Sounds like he likes DV more.
He concludes that Dolby Vision provides a superior picture. But if you actually watch the entire video you see that he has to do a pixel-by-pixel comparison to come to this conclusion. The point is that it is not a "night and day" difference as is being claimed in this thread.

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He concludes that Dolby Vision provides a superior picture. But if you actually watch the entire video you see that he has to do a pixel-by-pixel comparison to come to this conclusion. The point is that it is not a "night and day" difference as is being claimed in this thread.
It can be a night-and-day difference, if the display does a poor job of tone-mapping HDR10. Which a lot of TVs do, unfortunately. However, that's really a hardware issue more than a format issue.

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He concludes that Dolby Vision provides a superior picture. But if you actually watch the entire video you see that he has to do a pixel-by-pixel comparison to come to this conclusion. The point is that it is not a "night and day" difference as is being claimed in this thread.
Agree. Most people are not comparing HDR10 vs DV side by side on the same displays.

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If you're seeing a "night and day" difference between HDR10 and Dolby Vision, what that tells me is that your display doesn't do a very good job of tone mapping HDR10.
Or that the HDR production on the SW discs just aren't that good.

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Or that the HDR production on the SW discs just aren't that good.
Which would affect both HDR10 and Dolby Vision.

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Which would affect both HDR10 and Dolby Vision.
Not if the Dolby Vision is only on Disney+ streaming. In case you didn't get the memo, the SW discs are HDR10 only while it's DV only on Disney+. Even the HDR10 version on Disney+ has a better HDR feel than the disc (minus the sharpness and clarity).

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Not if the Dolby Vision is only on Disney+ streaming. In case you didn't get the memo, the SW discs are HDR10 only while it's DV only on Disney+. Even the HDR10 version on Disney+ has a better HDR feel than the disc (minus the sharpness and clarity).
I've watched the HDR10 version from Disney+ on my projector and was not impressed at all. The HDR has no highlights outside the SDR range.

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I've watched the HDR10 version from Disney+ on my projector and was not impressed at all. The HDR has no highlights outside the SDR range.
And yet it was still somehow better than the work done for the disc.

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I have Disney+, professionally calibrated LG C9, Panny 820, and a good 5.2 setup, but after reading this entire thread, still not sure if the boxed set is worth buying lol. Maybe I should just buy a few individual titles, like Empire and Rogue.

In any event, the one agreement seems to be that the packaging sucks. :-)
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Although the box set [email protected]@ks awesome displayed.

For ME when I initially did an inspection of each disc. I just placed each of the 4K disc’s into individual bluray case for each movie.

I also considered purchasing individual 4K movie releases. For ME it came out to around the same price as just purchasing the boxset. I plan to keep an eye out for a good deal on some 4K cases that will hold 3 or more disc. Then I just put the 4K movie, the new bonus features disc for each movie and the bonus features disc from the previous bluray boxset.

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Luckily, Zavvi is releasing the 4K discs in collectible Steelbook cases. The Best Buy cardboard sleeve nonsense is for the birds. If you're going to buy something, buy it right. The only real issue with the Skywalker collection is the lack of extras that would have made it a true definitive edition collectible. The new Flash Gordon and Dawn of the Dead pre-orders are how to do collectibles. If only Star Wars had the retail release it deserved after all these years. It's embarrassing to the franchise that the last time these films got any serious attention on home video was back in 1993 on Laser Disc.
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Attack of the Clones 4k SteelBook. Meh.

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You knew it was coming. Revenge of the Sith SteelBook. Another big "meh" on the artwork. Christensen's dopey face really ruins it.

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I'd like to have the physical media, but it would take every Skywalker, plus Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, and maybe Yoda too, all waving their hands at me simultaneously to make me buy this set at $400+ (CAD).


I could settle for the 1080p versions. Any word on the 18-disc set being released in Canada or US?


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