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Failure to Launch - Dolby Digital AC3 (lossy compression)
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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
Failure to Launch                                               MPEG-2  1:36:20 18,889,058,304  22,083,746,686  26.14   22.71   DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00003.mpls
Size:           18,889,058,304 bytes
Length:         1:36:20 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  26.14 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00003.M2TS      18,889,058,304  1:36:20.775     0:00:00.000     1:36:20.775     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
MPEG-2 Video        22710 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps / 16:9

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Audio             English         640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             French          640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         49 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           English         53 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          47 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         41 kbps                         

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:07:20.273     Chapter 2                       
3               0:14:26.866     Chapter 3                       
4               0:20:19.092     Chapter 4                       
5               0:26:22.581     Chapter 5                       
6               0:35:20.910     Chapter 6                       
7               0:43:00.411     Chapter 7                       
8               0:51:28.335     Chapter 8                       
9               0:59:26.104     Chapter 9                       
10              1:07:56.739     Chapter 10                      
11              1:17:31.772     Chapter 11                      
12              1:22:37.702     Chapter 12                      
13              1:28:14.289     Chapter 13                      

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Seconds         Bytes           Packets         Bitrate         
----            ---             ----            -------         -----           -------         -------         
00003.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x02            5780.78         16,409,919,898  89,265,124      22709.65        
00003.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            5780.78         462,464,000     2,709,750       640.00          
00003.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            5780.78         462,464,000     2,709,750       640.00          
00003.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            5780.78         462,464,000     2,709,750       640.00          
00003.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            5780.78         35,397,343      203,518         48.99           
00003.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            5780.78         38,448,596      221,392         53.21           
00003.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            5780.78         33,959,796      195,705         47.00           
00003.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            5780.78         29,694,163      171,820         41.09
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post #452 of 1971 Old 07-09-2008, 07:41 PM
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Patsfan123, can you post the full report for Batman Begins itself? House noted that his was inaccurate due to issues with the old BDInfo version.

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Mmmkay
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Dolby TrueHD (lossless compression) 16-bit/48kHz
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Title                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                                Secondary Audio Track
-----                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- -----------------                               ---------------------
Batman Begins                                   VC-1    2:20:02 23,792,474,112  35,115,738,871  22.65   13.69   Dolby TrueHD 5.1 1551Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)        DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00012.mpls
Size:           23,792,474,112 bytes
Length:         2:20:02 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  22.65 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00000.M2TS      23,792,474,112  2:20:02.852     0:00:00.000     2:20:02.852     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
VC-1 Video          13692 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps
VC-1 Video          634 kbps        480p / 23.976fps

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         1551 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 1551kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             French          640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Japanese        640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Portuguese      640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Plus Audio        English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         37 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           English         28 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         23 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         30 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          21 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          32 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          17 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        20 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        0 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        35 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        21 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Korean          15 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Korean          22 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      25 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      34 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      17 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         25 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         33 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         16 kbps                         

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:03:39.219     Chapter 2                       
3               0:07:31.117     Chapter 3                       
4               0:11:34.026     Chapter 4                       
5               0:16:15.641     Chapter 5                       
6               0:19:44.349     Chapter 6                       
7               0:24:19.291     Chapter 7                       
8               0:28:24.703     Chapter 8                       
9               0:31:25.383     Chapter 9                       
10              0:35:53.818     Chapter 10                      
11              0:38:24.635     Chapter 11                      
12              0:41:14.638     Chapter 12                      
13              0:43:08.252     Chapter 13                      
14              0:46:57.981     Chapter 14                      
15              0:49:43.981     Chapter 15                      
16              0:53:26.203     Chapter 16                      
17              0:55:55.018     Chapter 17                      
18              0:58:02.145     Chapter 18                      
19              1:03:31.808     Chapter 19                      
20              1:05:53.115     Chapter 20                      
21              1:08:38.781     Chapter 21                      
22              1:11:25.781     Chapter 22                      
23              1:13:19.561     Chapter 23                      
24              1:16:16.238     Chapter 24                      
25              1:19:50.285     Chapter 25                      
26              1:23:54.362     Chapter 26                      
27              1:29:02.670     Chapter 27                      
28              1:32:36.717     Chapter 28                      
29              1:37:49.029     Chapter 29                      
30              1:40:33.694     Chapter 30                      
31              1:45:08.969     Chapter 31                      
32              1:49:32.065     Chapter 32                      
33              1:51:29.182     Chapter 33                      
34              1:54:49.048     Chapter 34                      
35              1:58:11.084     Chapter 35                      
36              2:01:54.974     Chapter 36                      
37              2:05:01.160     Chapter 37                      
38              2:06:06.892     Chapter 38                      
39              2:09:18.417     Chapter 39                      
40              2:10:57.015     Chapter 40                      
41              2:20:02.811     Chapter 41
Code:
M2TS, 2 video tracks, 7 audio tracks, 2:20:03
1: Chapters, 80 chapters
2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: VC-1, 480p24 /1.001 (3:2), 83ms
4: AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 83ms
5: TrueHD/AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 83ms
6: AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 83ms
7: AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 83ms
8: AC3, Portuguese, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 83ms
9: AC3, Japanese, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 83ms
10: E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 83ms
Funny I pretty much watched the scan and the video bitrate was around 15.50Mbps the whole time and dropped off at the end and the PIP was around 1200Kbps then dropped off.

Also I rewatched the Prologue and watched the bitrate meter on the PS3; it was in the 30's for most of it.

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Funny I pretty much watched the scan and the video bitrate was around 15.50Mbps the whole time and dropped off at the end and the PIP was around 1200Kbps then dropped off.

Also I rewatched the Prologue and watched the bitrate meter on the PS3; it was in the 30's for most of it.

Do you feel that the video bitrate numbers might be off? I did some comparisons against the demuxed output on a number of titles and the numbers were not exact to the byte, but pretty close. Even older versions of BDInfo were within +/- 0.01 Mbps, so I definitely would like to know if there is a problem. The stream diagnostic byte and packet counts should help with this comparison.
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No, I think it's correct but I feel like the majority of the movie has a higher bitrate and for some reason they encoded the end at a lower bitrate. I don't need to be convinced because what this tool and Mpeg2repair say are about the same.

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The Mummy;

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                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
The Mummy                                                       VC-1    2:04:53 31,593,603,072  35,801,257,509  33.73   23.30   DTS-HD Master 5.1 4649Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DTS-HD Hi-Res 2.0 192Kbps
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00007.mpls
Size:           31,593,603,072 bytes
Length:         2:04:53 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  33.73 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00000.M2TS      31,593,603,072  2:04:53.235     0:00:00.000     2:04:53.235     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
VC-1 Video          23301 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps
VC-1 Video          1421 kbps       480p / 23.976fps

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         4649 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 4649kbps (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 1536kbps)
DTS Audio                       French          768 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 768kbps
DTS Audio                       Spanish         768 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 768kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps
DTS-HD Audio                    English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         27 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          20 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          1 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         19 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         1 kbps                          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:07:10.596     Chapter 2                       
3               0:12:19.196     Chapter 3                       
4               0:23:19.689     Chapter 4                       
5               0:29:03.283     Chapter 5                       
6               0:36:46.204     Chapter 6                       
7               0:43:38.866     Chapter 7                       
8               0:49:06.568     Chapter 8                       
9               0:53:34.127     Chapter 9                       
10              0:57:29.612     Chapter 10                      
11              1:11:13.310     Chapter 11                      
12              1:18:48.265     Chapter 12                      
13              1:27:29.577     Chapter 13                      
14              1:30:03.940     Chapter 14                      
15              1:36:32.828     Chapter 15                      
16              1:43:58.899     Chapter 16                      
17              1:49:44.828     Chapter 17                      
18              1:56:52.088     Chapter 18                      
19              2:04:52.985     Chapter 19
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The Mummy HD DVD (1999)                 VC-1    2:04:45 19,933,059,072*~24,511,127,191  21.30  ~16.98   DDPlus 5.1 1536Kbps     No
Thanks House. Did you scan Mummy using the latest version of BDInfo ?
Looks to be a new encode after comparing with the HD DVD specs.

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I like how House is in the UK and is able to get US releases weeks before I can (living in the US).

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Thanks House. Did you scan Mummy using the latest version of BDInfo ?

Yes.

Quote:
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I like how House is in the UK and is able to get US releases weeks before I can (living in the US).



Mummy Returns;

Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
The Mummy Returns                                               VC-1    2:09:38 31,311,243,264  36,030,655,043  32.20   23.07   DTS-HD Master 5.1 4553Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DTS-HD Hi-Res 2.0 192Kbps
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00010.mpls
Size:           31,311,243,264 bytes
Length:         2:09:38 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  32.20 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00050.M2TS      31,311,243,264  2:09:38.395     0:00:00.000     2:09:38.395     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
VC-1 Video          23073 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps
VC-1 Video          744 kbps        480p / 23.976fps

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         4553 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 4553kbps (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 1536kbps)
DTS Audio                       French          768 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 768kbps
DTS Audio                       Spanish         768 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 768kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps
DTS-HD Audio                    English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         24 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          21 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          2 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         21 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         2 kbps                          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:04:41.489     Chapter 2                       
3               0:10:03.519     Chapter 3                       
4               0:13:33.395     Chapter 4                       
5               0:17:03.897     Chapter 5                       
6               0:23:20.774     Chapter 6                       
7               0:26:17.158     Chapter 7                       
8               0:35:25.248     Chapter 8                       
9               0:42:01.685     Chapter 9                       
10              0:46:51.725     Chapter 10                      
11              0:56:03.151     Chapter 11                      
12              1:06:37.410     Chapter 12                      
13              1:17:00.657     Chapter 13                      
14              1:27:33.665     Chapter 14                      
15              1:35:27.638     Chapter 15                      
16              1:42:44.074     Chapter 16                      
17              1:47:43.790     Chapter 17                      
18              1:51:20.840     Chapter 18                      
19              1:53:26.382     Chapter 19                      
20              2:01:49.176     Chapter 20                      
21              2:09:38.145     Chapter 21
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Thanks Patsfan123.

Quote:
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Dolby Digital Plus Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps

Is that a commentary track.. in DD+?

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Code:
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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
The Mummy                                                       VC-1    2:04:53 31,593,603,072  35,801,257,509  33.73   23.30   DTS-HD Master 5.1 4649Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DTS-HD Hi-Res 2.0 192Kbps

And is that "Secondary Audio" another strangely encoded commentary? (likewise for Returns)

Speaking of commentaries, I noticed the other day that the commentary track on the UK "Pan's Labyrinth" is incorrectly tagged as Spanish. Guess we can't put too much faith in their labelling.

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Do you feel that the video bitrate numbers might be off? I did some comparisons against the demuxed output on a number of titles and the numbers were not exact to the byte, but pretty close. Even older versions of BDInfo were within +/- 0.01 Mbps, so I definitely would like to know if there is a problem. The stream diagnostic byte and packet counts should help with this comparison.

Rambo
Demuxed .avc file: 18,410,283,276 bytes
Filesize / length = 26.8224Mbps

Older BDInfo:
Quote:
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Code:
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                                                                                                Total   Video   Video
Title                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                                Secondary Audio Track
-----                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------- -----------------------                         ---------------------
Rambo                                           AVC     1:31:31 26,384,185,344# 46,855,015,149  38.44   26.88           DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 5740Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)

New BDInfo (v0.3.0 or v0.3.1, I can't recall):
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Code:
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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
Rambo                                                           AVC     1:31:31 26,384,185,344# 46,855,015,149  38.44   26.82   DTS-HD Master 7.1 5516Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)


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Yep I believe the PIP commentary for Batman Begins is DD+ so it must be a direct port of the HD DVD PIP commentary. It does play on the PS3 fine, eventhough that breaks Blu-ray specs... It looks like the PIP commentary on each Mummy is encoded in DTS-HD.

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Anyone know if Disney's UK release of There Will Be Blood has identical specs to the Paramount US version?
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Yep I believe the PIP commentary for Batman Begins is DD+ so it must be a direct port of the HD DVD PIP commentary. It does play on the PS3 fine, eventhough that breaks Blu-ray specs... It looks like the PIP commentary on each Mummy is encoded in DTS-HD.

There are actually separate "secondary" stream type markers for these tracks which should show up in the stream diagnostics:

AC3 PLUS AUDIO = 0x84
DTS HD AUDIO = 0x85
AC3 PLUS SECONDARY AUDIO = 0xA1
DTS HD SECONDARY AUDIO = 0xA2

It's interesting that BDInfo did not seem to detect a core DTS track for the Mummy DTS-HD one - maybe they don't have a core? V for Vendetta also has one of those DD+ tracks for the PiP audio...perhaps I should repost it!

Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
V for Vendetta                                                  VC-1    2:12:32 22,824,474,624  27,375,237,016  22.96   12.53   Dolby TrueHD 5.1 1376Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)  DD AC3 5.1 448Kbps
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00003.mpls
Size:           22,824,474,624 bytes
Length:         2:12:32 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  22.96 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00003.M2TS      22,824,474,624  2:12:32.361     0:00:00.000     2:12:32.361     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
VC-1 Video          12526 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps
VC-1 Video          969 kbps        480p / 23.976fps

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         1376 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 1376kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         448 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             French          448 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             French          640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             German          640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Italian         640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Japanese        640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Plus Audio        English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         43 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           English         51 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Danish          31 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Danish          41 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Dutch           32 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Dutch           43 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Finnish         32 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Finnish         43 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          31 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          0 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           French          43 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           German          44 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           German          46 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           German          0 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           German          52 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Italian         41 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Italian         44 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Italian         0 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           Italian         50 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        30 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        0 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        41 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Norwegian       38 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Norwegian       45 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      43 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      47 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         42 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         0 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         36 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         48 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Swedish         34 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Swedish         38 kbps                         

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:02:24.310     Chapter 2                       
3               0:09:07.880     Chapter 3                       
4               0:11:00.409     Chapter 4                       
5               0:16:26.986     Chapter 5                       
6               0:21:56.648     Chapter 6                       
7               0:25:01.500     Chapter 7                       
8               0:30:09.808     Chapter 8                       
9               0:35:37.468     Chapter 9                       
10              0:40:37.435     Chapter 10                      
11              0:43:14.258     Chapter 11                      
12              0:48:02.713     Chapter 12                      
13              0:49:40.978     Chapter 13                      
14              0:54:11.081     Chapter 14                      
15              0:56:39.562     Chapter 15                      
16              1:00:31.294     Chapter 16                      
17              1:04:47.049     Chapter 17                      
18              1:09:41.177     Chapter 18                      
19              1:12:07.489     Chapter 19                      
20              1:18:49.725     Chapter 20                      
21              1:21:13.034     Chapter 21                      
22              1:26:01.656     Chapter 22                      
23              1:29:20.688     Chapter 23                      
24              1:32:08.356     Chapter 24                      
25              1:36:21.275     Chapter 25                      
26              1:39:28.462     Chapter 26                      
27              1:44:17.584     Chapter 27                      
28              1:48:50.357     Chapter 28                      
29              1:52:03.717     Chapter 29                      
30              1:53:57.664     Chapter 30                      
31              1:57:51.564     Chapter 31                      
32              1:59:35.334     Chapter 32                      
33              2:04:38.471     Chapter 33                      
34              2:12:32.110     Chapter 34                      

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----            ---             ----            -------         -----           -------         -------         
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00003.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            7952.36         445,333,504     2,485,120       448.00          
00003.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x83            7952.36         1,813,565,288   14,190,881      1824.43         
00003.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            7952.36         636,190,720     3,727,680       640.00          
00003.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            7952.36         445,333,504     2,485,120       448.00          
00003.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            7952.36         42,350,513      241,957         42.60           
00003.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            7952.36         31,030,721      180,128         31.22           
00003.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            7952.36         43,594,304      248,440         43.86           
00003.M2TS      6912 (0x1B00)   0xEA            7952.36         962,906,795     5,391,862       968.68          
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00003.M2TS      4356 (0x1104)   0x81            7952.36         636,190,720     3,727,680       640.00          
00003.M2TS      4357 (0x1105)   0x81            7952.36         636,190,720     3,727,680       640.00          
00003.M2TS      4358 (0x1106)   0x81            7952.36         636,190,720     3,727,680       640.00          
00003.M2TS      4359 (0x1107)   0x81            7952.36         636,190,720     3,727,680       640.00          
00003.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            7952.36         41,004,321      233,891         41.25           
00003.M2TS      4613 (0x1205)   0x90            7952.36         43,364,854      247,544         43.62           
00003.M2TS      4614 (0x1206)   0x90            7952.36         41,415,182      236,507         41.66           
00003.M2TS      4615 (0x1207)   0x90            7952.36         32,140,031      184,271         32.33           
00003.M2TS      4616 (0x1208)   0x90            7952.36         29,585,199      171,788         29.76           
00003.M2TS      4617 (0x1209)   0x90            7952.36         42,921,519      244,823         43.18           
00003.M2TS      4618 (0x120A)   0x90            7952.36         30,847,820      175,186         31.03           
00003.M2TS      4619 (0x120B)   0x90            7952.36         31,965,178      181,918         32.16           
00003.M2TS      4620 (0x120C)   0x90            7952.36         37,680,114      214,435         37.91           
00003.M2TS      4621 (0x120D)   0x90            7952.36         33,631,150      191,084         33.83           
00003.M2TS      4622 (0x120E)   0x90            7952.36         189,437         1,102           0.19            
00003.M2TS      4623 (0x120F)   0x90            7952.36         229,758         1,310           0.23            
00003.M2TS      4624 (0x1210)   0x90            7952.36         423,530         2,441           0.43            
00003.M2TS      4625 (0x1211)   0x90            7952.36         266,091         1,524           0.27            
00003.M2TS      4626 (0x1212)   0x90            7952.36         295,561         1,742           0.30            
00003.M2TS      4627 (0x1213)   0x90            7952.36         36,228,816      207,942         36.45           
00003.M2TS      4628 (0x1214)   0x90            7952.36         50,668,187      287,893         50.97           
00003.M2TS      4629 (0x1215)   0x90            7952.36         43,081,459      246,841         43.34           
00003.M2TS      4630 (0x1216)   0x90            7952.36         51,810,553      294,596         52.12           
00003.M2TS      4631 (0x1217)   0x90            7952.36         49,633,958      282,309         49.93           
00003.M2TS      4632 (0x1218)   0x90            7952.36         42,708,657      243,850         42.96           
00003.M2TS      4633 (0x1219)   0x90            7952.36         40,712,249      234,565         40.96           
00003.M2TS      4634 (0x121A)   0x90            7952.36         47,736,503      272,041         48.02           
00003.M2TS      4635 (0x121B)   0x90            7952.36         47,193,056      269,054         47.48           
00003.M2TS      4636 (0x121C)   0x90            7952.36         41,053,672      233,525         41.30           
00003.M2TS      4637 (0x121D)   0x90            7952.36         42,598,855      242,050         42.85           
00003.M2TS      4638 (0x121E)   0x90            7952.36         44,681,879      254,501         44.95           
00003.M2TS      4639 (0x121F)   0x90            7952.36         37,985,276      216,232         38.21           
00003.M2TS      6656 (0x1A00)   0xA1            7952.36         190,857,216     1,242,560       192.00
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The Mummy HD DVD (1999)                 VC-1    2:04:45 19,933,059,072*~24,511,127,191  21.30  ~16.98   DDPlus 5.1 1536Kbps     No
Thanks House. Did you scan Mummy using the latest version of BDInfo ?
Looks to be a new encode after comparing with the HD DVD specs.

That is excellent news if they follow it as a rule... some titles like Kong I think will benefit from more bitrate...

It is also interesting to see a 2.0 HR audio track.
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The Ruins - Dolby TrueHD (lossless compression) 24-bit/48kHz

Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
The Ruins                                                       VC-1    1:33:25 23,960,868,864  31,328,446,882  34.20   27.78   Dolby TrueHD 5.1 3005Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00000.mpls
Size:           23,960,868,864 bytes
Length:         1:33:25 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  34.20 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00000.M2TS      23,960,868,864  1:33:25.641     0:00:00.000     1:33:25.641     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
VC-1 Video          27782 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         3005 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 3005kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         27 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           English         33 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          20 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      25 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         21 kbps                         

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:09:48.588     Chapter 2                       
3               0:18:24.603     Chapter 3                       
4               0:26:40.432     Chapter 4                       
5               0:36:56.505     Chapter 5                       
6               0:44:15.694     Chapter 6                       
7               0:56:44.734     Chapter 7                       
8               1:03:25.051     Chapter 8                       
9               1:11:25.364     Chapter 9                       
10              1:21:45.483     Chapter 10                      
11              1:28:12.287     Chapter 11                      

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Seconds         Bytes           Packets         Bitrate         
----            ---             ----            -------         -----           -------         -------         
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00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x83            5605.64         2,553,875,930   17,343,083      3644.72         
00000.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            5605.64         134,535,936     875,885         192.00          
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            5605.64         18,736,183      108,846         26.74           
00000.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            5605.64         22,779,751      132,029         32.51           
00000.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            5605.64         13,728,588      80,569          19.59           
00000.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            5605.64         15,005,719      87,783          21.42           
00000.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            5605.64         17,257,110      100,765         24.63
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Million Dollar Baby - Dolby Digital AC3 (lossy compression)
Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
Million Dollar Baby                                             VC-1    2:12:35 17,120,385,024  19,891,894,282  17.22   14.83   DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00000.mpls
Size:           17,120,385,024 bytes
Length:         2:12:35 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  17.22 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00000.M2TS      17,120,385,024  2:12:35.238     0:00:00.000     2:12:35.238     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
VC-1 Video          14826 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Audio             English         640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             French          640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         55 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           English         58 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          47 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         55 kbps                         

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:03:02.640     Chapter 2                       
3               0:06:42.026     Chapter 3                       
4               0:10:27.418     Chapter 4                       
5               0:14:15.062     Chapter 5                       
6               0:17:43.228     Chapter 6                       
7               0:23:07.177     Chapter 7                       
8               0:25:20.977     Chapter 8                       
9               0:29:06.453     Chapter 9                       
10              0:31:53.620     Chapter 10                      
11              0:37:10.811     Chapter 11                      
12              0:42:19.828     Chapter 12                      
13              0:45:54.752     Chapter 13                      
14              0:48:43.837     Chapter 14                      
15              0:51:42.265     Chapter 15                      
16              0:55:59.105     Chapter 16                      
17              0:59:18.096     Chapter 17                      
18              1:02:47.346     Chapter 18                      
19              1:06:24.146     Chapter 19                      
20              1:10:05.326     Chapter 20                      
21              1:12:42.524     Chapter 21                      
22              1:16:45.559     Chapter 22                      
23              1:19:05.866     Chapter 23                      
24              1:21:30.552     Chapter 24                      
25              1:24:54.714     Chapter 25                      
26              1:28:38.771     Chapter 26                      
27              1:31:13.801     Chapter 27                      
28              1:33:40.781     Chapter 28                      
29              1:37:34.390     Chapter 29                      
30              1:40:59.887     Chapter 30                      
31              1:43:27.534     Chapter 31                      
32              1:48:17.324     Chapter 32                      
33              1:54:57.348     Chapter 33                      
34              1:58:39.612     Chapter 34                      
35              2:01:49.135     Chapter 35                      
36              2:05:51.669     Chapter 36                      
37              2:08:11.850     Chapter 37                      

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Seconds         Bytes           Packets         Bitrate         
----            ---             ----            -------         -----           -------         -------         
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00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            7955.24         636,395,520     3,728,881       639.98          
00000.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            7955.24         636,395,520     3,728,880       639.98          
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            7955.24         54,275,691      305,303         54.58           
00000.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            7955.24         47,125,967      265,898         47.39           
00000.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            7955.24         54,943,218      309,077         55.25           
00000.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            7955.24         57,265,480      322,209         57.59
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Primeval - LPCM (uncompressed) 24-bit/48kHz
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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
Primeval                                                        AVC     1:34:12 21,271,597,056* 24,905,514,792  30.11   20.01   LPCM 5.1 6912Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)          DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00001.mpls
Size:           21,271,597,056 bytes
Length:         1:34:12 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  30.11 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00001.M2TS      12,153,507,840  0:53:28.830     0:00:00.000     0:53:28.830     
00007.M2TS      9,118,089,216   0:40:43.482     0:53:28.830     1:34:12.313     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video    20006 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      English         6912 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 6912kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         17 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           English         45 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          16 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         15 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         1 kbps                          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:04:35.400     Chapter 2                       
3               0:08:28.382     Chapter 3                       
4               0:13:21.717     Chapter 4                       
5               0:16:25.776     Chapter 5                       
6               0:24:58.455     Chapter 6                       
7               0:30:27.200     Chapter 7                       
8               0:36:08.624     Chapter 8                       
9               0:42:03.979     Chapter 9                       
10              0:48:00.419     Chapter 10                      
11              0:51:25.499     Chapter 11                      
12              0:57:55.972     Chapter 12                      
13              1:09:21.282     Chapter 13                      
14              1:17:03.869     Chapter 14                      
15              1:22:09.966     Chapter 15                      
16              1:27:00.840     Chapter 16                      
17              1:34:12.063     Chapter 17                      

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Seconds         Bytes           Packets         Bitrate         
----            ---             ----            -------         -----           -------         -------         
00001.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            3208.83         8,091,012,081   44,018,156      20171.86        
00001.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x80            3208.83         2,772,433,440   15,402,408      6912.01         
00001.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            3208.83         256,706,560     1,504,140       640.00          
00001.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            3208.83         8,772,299       51,328          21.87           
00001.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            3208.83         8,351,348       48,570          20.82           
00001.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            3208.83         7,903,288       46,170          19.70           
00001.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            3208.83         564,221         3,268           1.41            
00001.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            3208.83         256,706,560     1,504,140       640.00          
00001.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            3208.83         19,687,259      112,422         49.08           
00001.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            3208.83         77,011,968      501,380         192.00          
00007.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            2443.48         6,044,282,953   32,883,789      19789.08        
00007.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x80            2443.48         2,111,171,040   11,728,728      6912.01         
00007.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            2443.48         195,479,040     1,145,385       640.00          
00007.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            2443.48         195,479,040     1,145,385       640.00          
00007.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            2443.48         58,643,712      381,795         192.00          
00007.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            2443.48         3,243,917       19,274          10.62           
00007.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            2443.48         2,924,672       17,225          9.58            
00007.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            2443.48         2,897,679       17,112          9.49            
00007.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            2443.48         92,070          525             0.30            
00007.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            2443.48         12,033,458      68,975          39.40
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It's obvious Primeval's video encode was tailored to fit on a BD-25.

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To see this in action, please set the BD menu language in your player to a language of your choice. If the desired language ain't available on the BD then the player will display the menu in default language (English). Examples of titles with such implementation are listed below.

Warner

Zodiac (Import)
Sweeney Todd (Import)
Harry Potter 1 ~ 5
Natural Born Killers
Dirty Harry
Ocean's Trilogy
Batman Begins
V for Vendetta
Gotham Knight

BVHE

National Treasure 1 & 2
Enchanted
Shall we dance
Signs
Unbreakable

FOX

Day and Night Watch (Import - FOX)

I think most of the BVHE and Warner BD titles released in the past 6~8 months feature this hidden multi-lingual menu implementation.

One strange thing you will notice is the limiting of audio and subtitles. For example, the Japanese menu in Sweeney Todd (Import) doesn't list spoken languages/subs other than English & Japanese.

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National Treasure - 1
Natural Born Killers
Men in Black
Zodiac (Warner - Import)
Dune (French Import)
Peter Pan (Sony - Import)

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Question: Does anybody know any Blu-Rays with subtitles in *text* format? You know, Blu-Ray supports subtitles in both graphical and text format. Usually it seems that the graphical format is the one which is used by most studios. However, I'm looking for a Blu-Ray which has text subtitles.

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Question: Does anybody know any Blu-Rays with subtitles in *text* format?

I have not seen any titles with these - all that I've seen are presentation graphics. However, you'd think that some title out there would have them...
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However, you'd think that some title out there would have them...

That was my hope. I recall paidgeek having mentioned that Sony Pictures might use text subtitles sooner or later to allow dynamic placing of the subtitles (to move them into the image area for CIH users). But I'm not sure. Maybe he also meant they'd just offer multiple PGS streams at various positions...
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Is there a good clean way to determine region coding from a Blu-ray PC drive yet?

I got a few UK discs in the mail today and it would be interesting to get a definitive answer on the Region coding.

In any case, as I find time I will run them through the squid processor...
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Through the wonders of piracy I got this crappy release on my hard drive... The AACS was already removed so the reported disc size is probably around 10MB less than its actual size.

PowerDVD confirms that this doesn't work in Region A or C - it's locked to Region B only.

About the extras:
- The TV special includes interviews with the cast and crew in English but they're forcibly dubbed over by the German narrator.
- The trailer is the same as the USA version but with the Warner logo and German audio/text. It's obviously poorly transferred from a film print so the colors and resolution are worse than the USA trailer.

I'll be updating my PIX thread soon, but I just had to rage about this first: the ****ing TRAILER is VC-1 encoded at 6.82Mbps higher than the film itself!!!

...With DTS-HD MA 24-bit audio, duplicated to two tracks, no less...

Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
(DE) Rambo                                                      VC-1    1:31:13 18,359,592,960 ~20,119,118,800  26.84   17.97   DTS-HD Master 5.1 2653Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00004.mpls
Size:           18,359,592,960 bytes
Length:         1:31:13 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  26.84 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00005.M2TS      18,359,592,960  1:31:13.092     0:00:00.000     1:31:13.092     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
VC-1 Video          17971 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2653 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 2653kbps (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 1536kbps)
DTS-HD Master Audio             German          4432 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 4432kbps (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 1536kbps)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         3 kbps          [foreign dialogue scenes only]
Presentation Graphics           German          50 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           German          71 kbps         [hard-of-hearing]
Presentation Graphics           German          4 kbps          [foreign dialogue scenes only]

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:07:15.643     Chapter 2                       
3               0:12:22.074     Chapter 3                       
4               0:16:27.403     Chapter 4                       
5               0:23:32.911     Chapter 5                       
6               0:31:46.029     Chapter 6                       
7               0:41:03.461     Chapter 7                       
8               0:49:15.661     Chapter 8                       
9               1:01:01.658     Chapter 9                       
10              1:08:30.022     Chapter 10                      
11              1:16:51.398     Chapter 11                      
12              1:19:53.413     Chapter 12
Extras:

Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
(extra) German theatrical trailer                               VC-1    0:02:20 558,864,384     20,119,118,800  31.84   24.79   DTS-HD Master 5.1 2594Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DTS-HD Master 5.1 2594Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00054.mpls
Size:           558,864,384 bytes
Length:         0:02:20 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  31.84 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00076.M2TS      558,864,384     0:02:20.431     0:00:00.000     0:02:20.431     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
VC-1 Video          24786 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             German          2594 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 2594kbps (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 1536kbps)
DTS-HD Master Audio             German          2594 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 2594kbps (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 1536kbps)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         1 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           German          1 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           German          1 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           German          1 kbps                          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:02:20.056     Chapter 2
Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
(extra) "Making Of: John Rambo" TV special                      MPEG-2  0:20:02 1,147,318,272   20,119,118,800  7.64    6.79    DD AC3 2.0 192Kbps
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00005.mpls
Size:           1,147,318,272 bytes
Length:         0:20:02 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  7.64 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00014.M2TS      1,147,318,272   0:20:02.040     0:00:00.000     0:20:02.040     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
MPEG-2 Video        6787 kbps       576i / 25fps    

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Audio             German          192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             German          192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         0 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           German          0 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           German          0 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           German          0 kbps                          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:06:38.240     Chapter 2                       
3               0:11:43.120     Chapter 3                       
4               0:17:12.480     Chapter 4                       
5               0:20:01.680     Chapter 5
ANYWAY...

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Is there a good clean way to determine region coding from a Blu-ray PC drive yet?

I got a few UK discs in the mail today and it would be interesting to get a definitive answer on the Region coding.

Just manually checking with PowerDVD seems to be the best way still, unfortunately.

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...With DTS-HD MA 24-bit audio, duplicated to two tracks, no less...

Hm, the spec you posted read 1 track @16-bit (English) and 1 @24-bit (German).

Screwy how they would give the dub higher resolution rather than the original soundtrack.

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Just manually checking with PowerDVD seems to be the best way still, unfortunately.

Ok - interesting.

I probably got PowerDVD with one or other of my BD drives

Cheers!
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Hm, the spec you posted read 1 track @16-bit (English) and 1 @24-bit (German).

Screwy how they would give the dub higher resolution rather than the original soundtrack.

That statement was still referring to the trailer. Likewise the TV special has 2x German stereo track.

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Code:
DTS-HD Master Audio (lossless compression) 16-bit/48kHz
                                                                                                Total   Video
Title                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track        Secondary Audio Track
-----                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ----------------------- ---------------------
The Bank Job                                    AVC     1:52:01 19,677,437,952  23,620,157,820  23.42   18.32   DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 2714Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00000.mpls
Size:           19,677,437,952 bytes
Length:         1:52:01 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  23.42 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00001.M2TS      19,677,437,952  1:52:01.756     0:00:00.000     1:52:01.756     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video    18323 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2714 kbps       7.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 2714kbps (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 1536kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio             French          640 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 224kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         56 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           English         64 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         56 kbps                         

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:07:21.524     Chapter 2                       
3               0:13:47.493     Chapter 3                       
4               0:18:59.930     Chapter 4                       
5               0:24:47.277     Chapter 5                       
6               0:36:32.231     Chapter 6                       
7               0:40:28.426     Chapter 7                       
8               0:45:56.754     Chapter 8                       
9               0:54:10.789     Chapter 9                       
10              0:59:52.130     Chapter 10                      
11              1:05:51.030     Chapter 11                      
12              1:15:42.329     Chapter 12                      
13              1:22:39.871     Chapter 13                      
14              1:30:48.401     Chapter 14                      
15              1:38:27.401     Chapter 15                      
16              1:45:52.262     Chapter 16                      
17              1:52:01.506     Chapter 17
Despite the bitrate, I thought this looked really nice. It was tweaked to look like the 70's but I liked the style.

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DTS-HD Master Audio (lossless compression) 24-bit/48kHz
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                                                                                                Total   Video   Video
Title                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                                Secondary Audio Track
-----                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------- -----------------------                         ---------------------
Shutter                                 AVC     1:29:37 27,542,630,400  34,012,876,992  40.97   33.59   34      DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 4007Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00070.mpls
Size:           27,542,630,400 bytes
Length:         1:29:37 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  40.97 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00054.M2TS      27,542,630,400  1:29:37.663     0:00:00.000     1:29:37.663     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video    33585 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         4007 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 4007kbps (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 1536kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio             French          448 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         448 kbps        5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 224kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         42 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           English         0 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         26 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         34 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           French          2 kbps                          
Presentation Graphics           Korean          27 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         29 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         0 kbps                          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time            Name                            
------          ----            ----                            
1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:04:03.201     Chapter 2                       
3               0:06:02.403     Chapter 3                       
4               0:09:03.960     Chapter 4                       
5               0:13:08.537     Chapter 5                       
6               0:16:34.827     Chapter 6                       
7               0:22:28.013     Chapter 7                       
8               0:27:24.684     Chapter 8                       
9               0:28:49.269     Chapter 9                       
10              0:33:31.009     Chapter 10                      
11              0:38:39.817     Chapter 11                      
12              0:42:10.402     Chapter 12                      
13              0:47:12.037     Chapter 13                      
14              0:49:10.238     Chapter 14                      
15              0:52:42.701     Chapter 15                      
16              0:56:21.127     Chapter 16                      
17              0:58:14.449     Chapter 17                      
18              1:03:19.378     Chapter 18                      
19              1:09:44.388     Chapter 19                      
20              1:11:21.443     Chapter 20                      
21              1:17:03.535     Chapter 21                      
22              1:19:55.290     Chapter 22                      
23              1:21:18.164     Chapter 23                      
24              1:24:40.283     Chapter 24                      
25              1:29:37.413     Chapter 25
No impressions yet.. After stubbing me for 2 weeks straight for new releases, Netflix decides to send me both. Now that my career has started I have less time for movie watching

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-----                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ----------------------- ---------------------
The Bank Job                                    AVC     1:52:01 19,677,437,952  23,620,157,820  23.42   18.32   DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 2714Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Despite the bitrate, I thought this looked really nice. It was tweaked to look like the 70's but I liked the style.

Wow - so it is a BD25 then... Great film I might add!
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