Set your digital camera to night scene mode, turn off flash, delay for 2 seconds after setting it on top of a tripod.

Also set it to the highest quality setting, that way after cropping you can post a bigger picture while retaining most of the details.

yep thats how you do it, a fellow CRT guy helped me figure this stuff out, I am so behind in dig cam's, I couldn't take a picture for **** 2 days ago

these are from a Panny Lumix TZ1

-Gary

It's pretty hard to show HD detail in an image the size of a postcard. Some ffdshow resizing and sharpening could produce similar results. I'm not saying the pictures aren't cool but it's like comparing them from across the room.

I agree, I am gonna do a comparison later today and not tell which picture is which, we'll see how that goes, maybe my overall thoughts on screenshots will be proved wrong

the level of detail and sharpness of lines like the building for example give it away to me

I have a BHD superbit import from Japan, one of the best DVD's ever in my book, I will put those up soon

-Gary

I CLEARLY see the difference between hd and sd screenshots. The background detail on shots with depth of field are the giveaway that its hd. SD dvd upconverts just cant achieve this. I see this in all the posted shots where the comparison is made on the same equipment. There is no question BD is worth it on all but the very worst transfers from cruddy masters where all the flaws of the source are seen. Looking forward to your compo shots Gary.

Gonna stick this thread. Lets keep it clean and I look forward to nice pics from Gary and all.

Ok, down to a single G90 for a while. Pearl Harbor at 7 foot lamberts on SMX screen at 11ft wide 1080i PS3/1080P60 VP30:

Sorry about them being crooked. Kind of a beoch to get it just right plus the kids were with me:











Cliff

Very nice overclkr!!!

My 1292 is 10 years old and I only now have 4,000 some hours!

Gary are those NYC looking Screenshots from Hitch?

Thanks el mucho man. The PJ needs some serious tweaking right now, but you'd be suprised at how good even an untweaked G90 looks.

Cliff

you are correct sir

nice shots Cliff, I am gonna try and do mine a little bigger like yours

comparison coming soon after I finish my Wings game, I'll start with Black Hawk and Fifth Element

my PJ is fully dialed in now also

Thanks Jon, I look forward to some fun in this thread, everyone knows this is not serious and is subjective but who cares and yes please lets keep it clean guys

-Gary

that is sad, you need to watch more dude

-Gary

It's a screenshot fest!!!!! I'm going to have to tweak out my puppy so I can show what it's really capable of.

Look real close at my last shot in the blacks:



The gamma bump Moome's new card does for my blacks is incredible. Black is black as black. Even though my screen is 16:9, you sure cant tell once the lights are off and a movie is playing. I have never seen CRT look so good.

Cliff

Yes Cliff very nice, I am jealous of that HDMI, I am trying to get Moome to make a direct input 10-bit HDMI card for the XG, it would be a big seller for him

I was able to improve my gamma with the adjustment on the VP50, which is gonna get even better down the road, nothing like a CRT and proper Gamma

most folks say that CRT achieves it's perfect blacks by crushing details in them, not the case at all

first up is a Fifth Element comparison between DVD and BR(try and guess), all these are from the Samsung BR(DVD via Yamaha CX1 SDI):






-Gary

-Gary

Blacks in CRT PJ rules.

BTW if you guys are posting the pix please don't alter the original PQ. Crop and resize it only. If you do change something like gamma, saturation, etc. put a disclaimer.

On the Fifth Element screenshots the top photo's are the BD. Nice shots Gary.

All of my screenshots are cropped and resized only.

No other tweaks. Here are a couple more with both G90's filling the screen:







Cliff

Fun to guess but can I bother you guys for details on source per pic? Just so were sure what we are comparing to what.

Thanks Much

Love this. It has given me reason for more thought on my Blu ray player.
I watched Kingdom of Heaven last night. I would say the picture quality is
5-10% better than my old dvd player. Could this player be defective?
I watched Windtalkers on BD and on HDnet. The picture was the same.
But still not amazing like Discovery hd or Espn hd. Any thoughts?

My set up:

Sony BD-1 BD player
JVC hd70fh97 via hdmi

surely depth of field is down to the camera and/or its settings the movie is made with and nothing at all to do with HD?

I apologise in advance for the cheap camera and crappy photography,
but here goes again...
(zipping up the Nomex suit for those that hate my pic's)

Completely Untouched by photoshop, other than cropped
and downsized/down res'd to reduce file/upload to my webserver.

SD DVD up-converted (480i>1080i>768p) Pio DV-490V HDMI


Blu-Ray (1080p>1080i>768p) PS3 60g HDMI


....the details I noticed immediately:




The jaggies and stepping are gone at the claw shaddows, line between snow/sky is more defined.



Fine details in fur show up in the BR,
sharp black line between eyelid and eyeball, no stepping around iris.



Again more fur detail, cracks in nose are more visible (looks life-like in full size in person)
...also a small ripple in the snow where both front fangs penetrate, not visible in SD

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However, in person when sitting 6' away from my 50" PDP-5070HD, Scratts face is about 4x what I'm showing here,
and the image is also at full res (level 10) vs being saved at level 3 for web display.

...also take into account My PDP is also downscaling the 1080p signal to 768p

I imagine the difference between SD DVD and BR is greater on a 1080p Display

It's nearly impossible to accurately re-create the first hand experience
with a cheap camera, and little or no photography skills.

I've got some Blu-Ray Larger screen shots, ...

I'm not sure they are good enough to post here with the high-end projection guys pics'

Dude Pio post as many pics as you want in here. Thats what the thread if for pics of Blu-ray movies.

These are the pic's that raised a lot of criticism*
too harsh, too much edge enhancement, wrong iso settings, unbalance white levels, re-calibration of the PDP required ...blah blah blah.

Ice Age II SD DVD


Ice Age II Blu-Ray


Kingdom of Heaven SD DVD


Kingdom of Heaven Blu-Ray


The following 4 shots I dont have SD DVD's for comparison

BlackHawk Down Blu-Ray


Ultra Violet Blu-Ray (not generally accepted as great picture quality source)






*All I did was tune the sharpness up +1 in photoshop for lost detail due to bad camera (and photographer)
but all photos, regardless of format were adjusted equally.

I'll try to do better next time

My point was in shots with depth of field that has background in focus many of the fine details are clearly seen with the bd transfer compared to sd where these details are fuzzy.

my comparisoon before:

Fifth Element BR is the 2nd shot, the top is bluer and has bad ringing, that is the DVD, look at the noise in the sky on the DVD shot "Zorg", BR looks much better and in person the difference is sweet

nice shots there dude, don't add anything to the image, just straight pics, just resize and save with a nice jpeg compressor(photoshop for example), the sharpening ruins them for me as they would look so much better without it, here is a few more for my homies, I got a tripod last night so they have improved even more, all these are Fifth Element BR:








-Gary

Fifth Element BR









-Gary

OK, so which is BD and DVD????? Inquiring minds want to know....... :^)