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post #31 of 794 Old 05-16-2007, 12:21 PM
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Is there any chance these titles will be remastered for release in HD? If not, I don't see how they can be worth it.

Also, it's always nice to have the choice of subs or dubs. That is really the best option, to me.

I know for sure at least the Patlabor films were remastered in 1080p24 for these releases. I'm pretty sure all the titles that were announced for HD-DVD release back in CES were also announced as remastered here and there, as for the Japan only BD's that were announced later, I haven't seen that information anywhere, but that's probably just because they're Japan only. I think it's safe to assume that they have all been remastered for their HD releases. I feel sure in saying that, fwiw.
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I already have Zero on DVD (though I substituted some fansubs for the horrible boot subs it came with) and I thought the story was ok. :shrug: But then I like Macross 7, too (though that would most likely not HD suitable)...

Macross 7 is being re-released in Japan on DVD with a HD remaster later this year, along with Plus (OVAs and movies). It would've been nice if they would release a BD version along with it, but they obviously want to milk the DVD market as much as they can first. Hopefully the BD version will come sooner rather than later.
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I would love to see Appleseed, Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust and Blood: The Last Vampire on Blu-Ray. Of course, Akira, Ninja Scroll and Both GITS films as well. All with Japanese Audio and English Subs....Only way to watch 'em

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Neon Genesis Evangelion series and The End of Evangelion would be good in HD. Bleach, Nartou and Full Metal Alchemist will also be good in HD.
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Bleach, Nartou and Full Metal Alchemist will also be good in HD.

Anime made for TV since 99 or so has used digitally painted cels, and very few were done in HD (some early Gonzo titles don't even have a high enough resolution for an anamorphic DVD release). You could upscale them like what was done for Air and give the sound a remix and/or a lossless/uncompressed track, but they won't look very good compared to something animated in HD resolutions or done with hand-painted cels and then given a new HD master.
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Neon Genesis Evangelion series and The End of Evangelion would be good in HD. Bleach, Nartou and Full Metal Alchemist will also be good in HD.

I'm shure if those would work. But Conqueror of Shambala would be a prime candidate.

Best anime for BD: Ergo Proxy. GitS: SAC 1 and 2.

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I have to admit: I'm at least interested in Akira and Jin-Roh in HD-format. Not sure if I'm interested enough to drop $150 or so for them (and that's not including the Wings of Honneamise HD DVD, which I might well end up getting), but interested nonetheless.

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I'm shure if those would work. But Conqueror of Shambala would be a prime candidate.

Best anime for BD: Ergo Proxy
. GitS: SAC 1 and 2.

No it's too dark. It would be an awesome release don't get me wrong, I love the show, but if we're talking best anime for HD right now, Hellsing Ultimate OVA gets top billing right now, with Black Lagoon coming second imo of course. Hellsing Ultimate has the best animation I've ever seen and the gallons of bright red blood would look awesome in HD , and Black Lagoon is such a bright show that it would look insane at 1080p24.
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No it's too dark. It would be an awesome release don't get me wrong, I love the show, but if we're talking best anime for HD right now, Hellsing Ultimate OVA gets top billing right now, with Black Lagoon coming second imo of course. Hellsing Ultimate has the best animation I've ever seen and the gallons of bright red blood would look awesome in HD , and Black Lagoon is such a bright show that it would look insane at 1080p24.

BD can get inky black. EP would be nice(Now I remember why I wanted it: Real ). But could Imagine SAC witha PCM track. The reason I mentioned these is because in Japan they're broadcast in HD.

The Hellsings I've seen look ok. I'm not really a fan of that animation style. I've been hearing alot of Black Lagoon but is it mastered in HD?
If you wan't bright then Eureka Seven, is a good choice too.(awesome soundtrack)
But i don't think that was broadcast in HD.

I really only get into anime during the summer. I like to watch the series in their entireties. So I gotta get on it.

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BD can get inky black. EP would be nice(Now I remember why I wanted it: Real ). But could Imagine SAC witha PCM track. The reason I mentioned these is because in Japan they're broadcast in HD.

The Hellsings I've seen look ok. I'm not really a fan of that animation style. I've been hearing alot of Black Lagoon but is it mastered in HD?
If you wan't bright then Eureka Seven, is a good choice too.(awesome soundtrack)
But i don't think that was broadcast in HD.

I really only get into anime during the summer. I like to watch the series in their entireties. So I gotta get on it.

You're thinking about the old series. The new OVA series is about as good as it gets.

I think pretty much all of these new high profile series are created with HD in mind.

Le Chevalier D'Eon is another one that would be great. Haven't gotten around to watching Eureka yet, there's too much good anime to keep up with now a days.
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Ok now I am concerned. I have pre-ordered Akira from Yesasia, and I sent them an email asking about subtitles. They just got back to me and said after coonfirming with the supplier this release has no english subtitles and they have now updated the product information page to say as much.

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According to Bandai Visual's product page it has English subtitles:
http://product.bandaivisual.co.jp/we...m_no=BCXA-0001

edit: All their other BD releases say they have English subs as well, except for Steamboy which says it only has Japanese, and their releases coming out in September like Jin-Roh don't have a product page yet.
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I would also like to know which of the upcoming anime-releases have english subtitles. I've compiled a list over the known upcoming anime releases (see below). The only one we know for sure has english subs, is "Innocence" because it's allready out.
I own a lot of Bandai's R2 DVDs, an I can confirm that four of them had english subtitles. So one would think that they'd use the same subtitle tracks on the Blu-Rays. (hopefully)
If anyone have some inside information or can translate the japanese product information on Bandai's web-pages, please share the news

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Title:                  Release:    Studio:         English subtitles:
Innocence               06.12.06    Buena Vista     (English subs confirmed)
Paprika                 23.05.07    Sony Pictures   (?)
Iblard Jikan (Ghibli)   04.07.07    Buena Vista     (No subs according to CDJapan)
Akira                   27.07.07    Bandai Visual   (The R2 Bandai DVD Box contained english subs)
Royal Space Force       27.07.07    Bandai Visual   (The R2 Bandai DVD Box contained an english dub only)
Patlabor                27.07.07    Bandai Visual   (?)
Patlabor 2              24.08.07    Bandai Visual   (?)
Ghost In The Shell      24.08.07    Bandai Visual   (The R2 Bandai DVD contained english subs)
Steamboy                24.08.07    Bandai Visual   (?)
Avalon                  25.09.07    Bandai Visual   (The R2 Bandai DVD contained english subs)
Jin-Roh                 25.09.07    Bandai Visual   (The R2 Bandai DVD contained english subs)
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I don't see what people have against dubs, it's always good having a choice...

Anyway I'd like to import some of these movies, but not for the price they're selling them for, Japanese media is just too expensive...
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From the AnimeonDVD website:

More on Bandai Visual Japan Blu-ray (08:31 AM EDT): Though there's several hundred dollars worth of discs coming out in the summer and fall in Japan, HD fanatics will likely take the plunge on a few of these based on some new information that has come in from both Watch Impress and Bandai Visual Japan's own web shop. Fellow HD fanatic/forum moderator Frode has provided the details:

# Avalon: 2ch LCPM JP, DD EX6.1 Polish, 6.1 TrueHD Polish, JP and English subtitles
# Jin-roh: 2ch LPCM JP, DD 5.1 JP, DD 5.1 Eng, JP and English subtitles

Subtitles on discs we talked about yesterday are as follows:

# Akira: Japanese and English subtitles
# Wings of Honneamise: Japanese and English subtitles
# Patlabor Movie 1 and Movie 2: English subtitles
# Ghost in the Shell: Japanese and English subtitles
# Steamboy: Japanese subtitles
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I don't see what people have against dubs, it's always good having a choice...

Anyway I'd like to import some of these movies, but not for the price they're selling them for, Japanese media is just too expensive...

We like to see stuff the way it was meant to be seen/heard in its entirity. Not some butchered horrible crap they slap together and hope to make millions which they release over in the US. Voice actors here in the US have no talent compared to the Japanese voice actors in my opinion. The Japanese voice actors pour 1000 times more emotion into their characters while become their characters. The US voice actors just try to lip sync. Not all Dubs are bad however rarely and I mean rarely are they good or great. Grant it they are more expensive but if you love anime then you'll pick it up as soon as it is released. If you want your Dub you can wait until the US or which ever country you are in gets around to releasing it. You have a choice but I believe the majority of anime lovers want Japanese with English subtitles, even then a lot can live without the subtitles.

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It looks like at least a few of these will include the English dub soundtrack, along with the original Japanese soundtrack and English subtitles.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...y-hd-dvd-dates

I'm just glad it's the ones I'm interested in (Akira and GITS). Again, for the subtitle Nazis, it always nice to have a CHOICE!!

I'm still skeptical about the PQ, however. I've read nothing about these being re-mastered. I will wait for the reviews before I decide to buy.

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I'm still skeptical about the PQ, however. I've read nothing about these being re-mastered. I will wait for the reviews before I decide to buy.


No doubt, can you imagine staring at Akira's edge enhancement in 1080p? :-)
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I'm still skeptical about the PQ, however. I've read nothing about these being re-mastered. I will wait for the reviews before I decide to buy.

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About PATLABOR THE MOVIE

Single Disc Edition
# Exclusive package illustration by Akemi Takada
# Re-mastered with new 5.1 audio and anamorphic transfer
# Newly translated English language tracks with optional English subtitles

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About PATLABOR 2 THE MOVIE

Single Disc Edition
# Exclusive package illustration by Akemi Takada
# Re-mastered with new 5.1 audio and anamorphic transfer
# Newly translated English language tracks with optional English subtitles

So the two that also got a US DVD release were remastered in preparation for their DVD and HD release. So you think it's more likely that Bandai only remastered some of the releases they're preparing for HD and not all of them?
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I don't see what people have against dubs, it's always good having a choice...

I hate English dubs, even the ones others seem to think are okay (like Cowboy Bebop), but I can't disagree that it's best to have the choice. The only time that bothers me is when the Japanese audio gets the short end of the stick and the English audio is the main track. That should be less of a problem on BD than it was on DVD, and it mostly applies to U.S. releases, not Japanese releases such as these.
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So you think it's more likely that Bandai only remastered some of the releases they're preparing for HD and not all of them?

I certainly hope not. I hope that they are all remastered, especially Akira and GITS.

Unfortunately, since it hasn't been stated anywhere that I know of, I still remain skeptical.

You know what they say when one assumes something...

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On the subject of dubs vs subs, I find it hilarious that while it seems a good number of people here prefer dubs, they would all most likely react with disgust to some noobie starting a thread asking why most of the HDM don't fill his screen.
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I've been into anime now since the early 90's and remember when it was $25-30 for a 25min tape! Heck, I was happy if I could just find an anime tape locally for sale that I didn't have! Now you can walk into almost any music/video store and purchase a DVD for around $20 that has 4 or 5 episodes on it. The only problem you have is deciding which of the literally hundreeds of DVDs they sell to choose from. So, I'd rather not go back to a dollar a minute for anime... even if it's in HD. Having said that, I'd be interested in (and willing to pay a premium for) purchasing (again, lol) Patlabor 1 & 2, any Macross, and the Cowboy Bebop series. If they saw fit to release some classic series like Tenchi Muyo, Slayers, Lupin, ect that were all hand painted... then so much the better.

As for Subs vs Dubs... that's a debate that's been around as long as the hobby has. Certainly longer than I've been in it. My view is that either is fine as long as it's well done and *YOU* enjoy it. You can point to some great english dubs such as Bebop and horrible ones such as Captain Tylor. The same can be said of titles in the original Japanese soundtrack. The most common argument I've seen over the years in support of subs is that it maintains the "original directors intent" or something along that line of garbage. What that misses are two very important things... first, a sub is only as good as those who subtitled it and second, an anime is a collective artform. It's never JUST the director's intent or vision, it's the creation of literally hundreeds of artists and technicians who toiled over it. That's one of the greatest aspects of anime in the first place!
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On the subject of dubs vs subs, I find it hilarious that while it seems a good number of people here prefer dubs, they would all most likely react with disgust to some noobie starting a thread asking why most of the HDM don't fill his screen.

The thing is that most of the hardcore original aspect ratio folks don't care for anime. I personally have to watch my movies, tv shows, and anime in the original aspect ratio and language. I will not watch cropped versions of movies or dubbed movies unless that is the only version available. SFII the Animated Movie comes to mind; it wasn't available in Japanese with English subs until last summer.
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Is there any chance these titles will be remastered for release in HD? If not, I don't see how they can be worth it.

Also, it's always nice to have the choice of subs or dubs. That is really the best option, to me.

Akira was already remastered in HD when they released the DVD's a few years ago so they might just use that transfer. I remember watching the documentary discussing how they remastered it in HD and cleaned up the picture.

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Akira was already remastered in HD when they released the DVD's a few years ago so they might just use that transfer. I remember watching the documentary discussing how they remastered it in HD and cleaned up the picture.

Yeah, but this is also the master that may have had all of that wonderful EE on it. I don't think it's known if they added the edge enhancement post master or not. That's one of the big fears for me anyway. Shoot, there's still a good amount of dirt in it that's always been in there. (As in, when they were cleaning the glass and replacing the drawings inbetween takes, you can see dirt crawl here and there...)

Give me a few thousand bucks and I'd happily paint the dirt out frame by frame for them. :-)
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Macross 7 is being re-released in Japan on DVD with a HD remaster later this year, along with Plus (OVAs and movies).

Really? Any source for that/ Any idea if they'll include English subs?

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It would've been nice if they would release a BD version along with it, but they obviously want to milk the DVD market as much as they can first. Hopefully the BD version will come sooner rather than later.

A Blu-ray would be great, but even if it was Japan domestic only, Japan is Region A, so I'd only have to hope for English subtitles for me to import.

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Really? Any source for that/ Any idea if they'll include English subs?

http://product.bandaivisual.co.jp/we...m_no=BCBA-3048
http://product.bandaivisual.co.jp/we...m_no=BCBA-3049

No mention of subs or dubs.


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A Blu-ray would be great, but even if it was Japan domestic only, Japan is Region A, so I'd only have to hope for English subtitles for me to import.

For the most part, they seem to be including English subs and dubs on their BD releases, but I wouldn't count on either for Macross 7 should it be released to BD as no official English adaptation has been released anywhere (and may never be as the music rights are reportedly too expensive/complex).
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I'll be getting the Akira BD...now that I know it has english subs...

Remeber folks, friends dont let friends watch dub'd anime...
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