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post #61 of 794 Old 05-22-2007, 04:48 AM
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And we thought the combos were bad for pricing. Why not just add a separate DVD and raise the price by 50% instead of a couple bucks. Ouch. Back to the 10k yen prices I hoped forever in the past. The movies are good enough to buy for enthusiasts even at that price and they know it, they've all had cleaned up masters for Japanese SE DVD releases over the years so there's no reason why they shouldn't be worth the HD upgrade. Guess I'll put Patlabor next to the LD-size first edition on DVD that also cost 10k. Glad I'm not as much into shows as films, I'd be beyond broke.
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For the most part, they seem to be including English subs and dubs on their BD releases, but I wouldn't count on either for Macross 7 should it be released to BD as no official English adaptation has been released anywhere (and may never be as the music rights are reportedly too expensive/complex).

English subs wouldn't be too difficult and being a Japanese domestic Region A Blu-ray release would negate the overseas music rights issues as I'd presumably be using one of the various importers to get it.

Thanks for the links, though! Fansubs are probably at least the same, if not better than anything we'd officially get. The boot subbers of course, absolutely stink with their babelfish-esque translations, but it's pretty easy to put fansubs on these days with the appropriate software. Bomba!

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From the AnimeonDVD website:

More on Bandai Visual Japan Blu-ray (08:31 AM EDT): Though there's several hundred dollars worth of discs coming out in the summer and fall in Japan, HD fanatics will likely take the plunge on a few of these based on some new information that has come in from both Watch Impress and Bandai Visual Japan's own web shop. Fellow HD fanatic/forum moderator Frode has provided the details:

# Avalon: 2ch LCPM JP, DD EX6.1 Polish, 6.1 TrueHD Polish, JP and English subtitles
# Jin-roh: 2ch LPCM JP, DD 5.1 JP, DD 5.1 Eng, JP and English subtitles

Subtitles on discs we talked about yesterday are as follows:

# Akira: Japanese and English subtitles
# Wings of Honneamise: Japanese and English subtitles
# Patlabor Movie 1 and Movie 2: English subtitles
# Ghost in the Shell: Japanese and English subtitles
# Steamboy: Japanese subtitles

'Wings of Honneamise' with English subs!!!! - awesome!!!
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English subs wouldn't be too difficult and being a Japanese domestic Region A Blu-ray release would negate the overseas music rights issues as I'd presumably be using one of the various importers to get it.

Well, I kind of doubt if they'd bother doing their own English subtitles from scratch just for the Japanese market, especially for such a long series. Maybe they'll do so to encourage importing, but Macross 7 has never been that popular in the West... Have to wait and see, I guess.


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Thanks for the links, though! Fansubs are probably at least the same, if not better than anything we'd officially get. The boot subbers of course, absolutely stink with their babelfish-esque translations, but it's pretty easy to put fansubs on these days with the appropriate software. Bomba!

Oh, is it possible to put fan-made subs on BD now as well? If so, good, I was hoping to be able to do so as that might come in handy for doing something like putting the English subs from a US DVD release onto a Japanese BD.

Edit: Oh, I forgot we were talking about the DVD releases, nevermind.
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Having said that, I'd be interested in (and willing to pay a premium for) purchasing (again, lol) Patlabor 1 & 2, any Macross, and the Cowboy Bebop series. If they saw fit to release some classic series like Tenchi Muyo, Slayers, Lupin, ect that were all hand painted... then so much the better.

I would so pay a premium for Tenchi and Slayers. I would love to see entire seasons (24-26 eps) of any "older" anime be released in sets of 1-3 BRDs.

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As for Subs vs Dubs... that's a debate that's been around as long as the hobby has. Certainly longer than I've been in it. My view is that either is fine as long as it's well done and *YOU* enjoy it. You can point to some great english dubs such as Bebop and horrible ones such as Captain Tylor. The same can be said of titles in the original Japanese soundtrack. The most common argument I've seen over the years in support of subs is that it maintains the "original directors intent" or something along that line of garbage. What that misses are two very important things... first, a sub is only as good as those who subtitled it and second, an anime is a collective artform. It's never JUST the director's intent or vision, it's the creation of literally hundreeds of artists and technicians who toiled over it. That's one of the greatest aspects of anime in the first place!

Couldn't have said it better myself. There are a lot of shows I enjoy both dubbed and subbed.
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wait a sec (I know this is sacrilgeous to ask) but isn't 'Honneamise' also slated for HD-DVD as well ?

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Akira is now bumped off from the originally planned release date, new release date is unknown as of yet. Other upcoming Anime releases are unaffected.

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On the subject of dubs vs subs, I find it hilarious that while it seems a good number of people here prefer dubs, they would all most likely react with disgust to some noobie starting a thread asking why most of the HDM don't fill his screen.

I've always wondered the same in terms of EVERYONE wanting discrete 5.1 remasters of movies that were originally 1 channel, 2 channel or matrix surround. We are a wacky bunch, us movie fans!

I prefer dub, but only if it's good, though the original Japanese is almost always better. This is because I love to watch animation, and reading subtitles severely hinders the visual experience. Akira, for example, is so visually complex, it's just breathtaking to see. And the SE DVD's subs are very long and go by at lightning speed... I find them impossible to read... and you can forget digesting the backgrounds at the same time!

I have a subbed 1080i cap of GitS: Innocence, and it's absolutely beautiful. The subs are readable (as opposed to Akira), but I still long for a dub so I can just sit back and look! (BTW, this cap is wonderful, and I have a hard time believing the BD has the problems as quoted from Josh Z.)

Anyway, for me, it comes down to being engrossed in the art of the animation, and a good dub will let me do that.

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IMO, the English dubs in GITS and Cowboy Bebop surpass the Japanese track.

I also don't like Japanse dubs because I focus too much on reading and I'd much rather sacrifice the voiceover. After 10 min or so, I'm fine.

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Has anyone else noticed yesasia have announced the following titles as Blu-ray/HD DVD combos as well as the previously announced Blu-ray/DVD combos?

Patlabor: Mobile Police
Royal Space Force - The Wings of Honneamise
Akira (which unfortunately has been delayed)
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PATLABOR!!!! omg im so getting that
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Ouch! $90 on Patlabor.

You can get the Reg1 DVD for like $5. Pass.

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The US Special Edition of Patlabor was $90, and it didn't even have an HD version included.
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The US Special Edition of Patlabor was $90, and it didn't even have an HD version included.

Some of us just want the movie, and it doesn't say anything about special stuff here like T-Shirts, art-cells, etc, etc. $90 is way out of my price range. I have the movie on DVD, the new remastered version, It only cost me like $10.

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But you also realize that in Japan for Patlabor you'd pay about $50 for 'just the movie', right? Japanese video releases have been notoriously expensive since the 1980's, and $100 or so for a VHS/$60 for an LD was common place up until DVD replaced LD as the sell-through format around the turn of the century. Japan also doesn't have massive discounts at every online store like the US does, so getting almost anything cheap there isn't easy.

Frustratingly enough, Bandai Visual has already said they plan on releasing Akira on Blu-Ray in the US themselves. Considering their HD DVD/DVD release of Freedom is selling for $40 an episode in the US (with the Japanese port of the disc selling for a dollar or two less), I don't know that local options will wind up being much - or any - cheaper.
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That doesn't mean $90 is a good price for US customers, they'd never stand for it.

Hopefully they'll release it in the US market eventually. Well, we'll probably get Paprika anyways...

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Just got back from AnimeExpo and the Bandai booth had a HD clip of Akira playing on a couple of monitors. The surprising thing was that it wasn't from the Blu-ray. It had been downloaded onto a Xbox360 an was playing from it. It looks like Akira in HD is going to be available for download from XboxLive pretty soon here!

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Just got back from AnimeExpo and the Bandai booth had a HD clip of Akira playing on a couple of monitors. The surprising thing was that it wasn't from the Blu-ray. It had been downloaded onto a Xbox360 an was playing from it. It looks like Akira in HD is going to be available for download from XboxLive pretty soon here!

could it have been the HD DVD version? How did it look?
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Geneon still owns the SD rights to Akira, so the US release won't have the DVD included. But with Freedom being $40 for a single episode, what will they charge for a feature film that virtually every anime fan (and plenty of non-fans) are aware of? $50, 60? With Freedom being MORE expensive in the US than it is in Japan, I shudder to think what the premium for an HD release will be.

Bandai Visual continuously charges more than pretty much any US company - $50 for 4 episodes of Galaxy Angel Rune makes Criterion look downright generous - and with Bandai Visual USA basically being the Japanese corporation's local arm to unload titles that they think are worth more than they're being offered for them, they have very little to lose.

I'm looking forward to the day that I can buy Jin-Roh, Ghost in the Shell, The Wings of Honneamise and Akira in HD... I'm just pretty sure we'll have to pay an arm and a leg for them.
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The US Special Edition of Patlabor was $90, and it didn't even have an HD version included.


I bought both Patlabor Special Edition boxes. They contain the entire storyboards translated in a thick square bound book. They both include really nice books complete with interviews, timelines and a VHS/LD cover gallery. Both film also come with a bonus disc and a really nice reflective box. I think they were well worth the price, especially when compare to the 30 minute Freedom HD-DVD (also by Bandai Visual) which is $50 and doesn't come as nicely packaged.
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fooook bandai!!!!

of that list i wanted Akira In HD the most, but those pricks at bandai delayed it.

and i can already get a good idea why. since bandai is sucking up the balls of microsoft so much lately ( ace combat exclusive on xbox360, vc-1 encodings used on their anime releases. they couldn't ofcourse release the best anime ever to grace the world of this earth first on bluray, without having the hd-dvd version ready or xbox live.

mark my words, you will see akira resurface with a hd-dvd release together or with live together. whatever happens , i dont get it in july. fooking bandai!
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could it have been the HD DVD version? How did it look?

I doubt it was playing from a HD-DVD, but don't know for sure. It looked pretty good but they were using a couple of old Samsung 32" LCDs so it was hard to tell. Above the TVs there was a big sign that said 'Coming to XboxLive' or something like that. But as cool as being able to watch Akira in HD is, the big downside to downloading is that the movie will always be stuck inside of a big heavy box.

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Typical lazy person...

I fail to see how not wanting to focus on subtitles, makes someone lazy. With a screen name like "Dark Jedi", I really can't picture you being the most hard working, fit person alive.
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Typical lazy person...

I fail to see how not wanting to focus on subtitles, makes someone lazy. With a screen name like "Dark Jedi", I really can't picture you being the most hard working, fit person alive.

He also missed the point entirely. In this case, not wanting to read subs is so he (and I!) can watch the animation!

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I fail to see how not wanting to focus on subtitles, makes someone lazy. With a screen name like "Dark Jedi", I really can't picture you being the most hard working, fit person alive.

Hahaha.
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I fail to see how not wanting to focus on subtitles, makes someone lazy. With a screen name like "Dark Jedi", I really can't picture you being the most hard working, fit person alive.

Wow, you're too cute "Evan"! I am perfectly able to read subtitles and enjoy the animation JUST fine! And if you can't keep up with subtitles, you might as well go back to grade school and re-learn how to read!
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Please refrain from the "subs vs dubs" topic in this thread as it's offtopic (and done to death).

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i will be looking forward to ghost in the shell blu-ray. one of the best anime ever made.

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I just wanna see my Miyazaki on the BLU.
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Some boxart of the upcoming Bandai Visual Japan releases:




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