Originally Posted by deltasun
Fine grain present throughout. As expected, this was a pristine presentation technically. Facial details were very detailed and textured, some comparable to solid Tier 0 titles. On the flip side, there were numerous scenes where softness crept in. The introduction of young William Wallace's uncle was a perfect example. Upon closer inspection, one can see that the focus was incorrectly on the sliver of horse's head, barely visible on the bottom left corner of the screen; thereby rendering the rider's face (who was speaking) defocused. There were several more examples of softness, mostly occurring indoors.
Blacks were mostly solid and bold, but we do get some crushing in a number of scenes. Low-light details were decent, but I felt some were shallower than they should be, specially when compared to some newer titles (I would call on The Unborn again for reference). I noted contrast was weak in my pre-review, but having seen the entire film, I would retract that statement. It seemed weak in relation to Gladiator's, which had a different look and feel altogether. Braveheart's was not pushed and went for a more natural, maybe even dated look.
Braveheart showcased some beautiful panoramic scenes. Depth and dimension were very good, but nothing that really stood out. The spectrum of colors also appeared natural - greens were abundant, regal blues were valiant. Another thing I must mention was the unnatural amount of white specks throughout the film, eventually getting a tad distracting.
Overall, a definite winner in terms of its blu-ray presentation. However, I cannot agree with its reference placement; at least not based on our PQ thread rules. Don't get me wrong, there were sequences so good that they've made me forget/overlook some of the negatives. But, we must uphold the quality of what we induct into Tier Blu. I feel Braveheart does not belong. In fact, I don't even believe it belongs high on Tier 1...
Tier Recommendation: 1.75
ln46a650 - 1080p/24 - 6'
Originally Posted by djoberg
I decided to forget the coin toss and watch Braveheart, especially after reading two previous reviews which were a whole tier apart. After reading so many glowing reviews from "professional" reviewers (along with that of 42041) and then a somewhat dissenting opinion by our esteemed colleague deltasun, I was compelled to see what it looked like on my KURO.
In short, it was an absolutely gorgeous transfer with unbelievable CLARITY and DETAIL and thus I echo all the sentiments of 42041. Believe me when I say you are in for a treat, for this clearly blows away the last DVD edition of this remarkable film. Scotland never looked so good with lush greens and impeccable details of the picturesque highlands.
Blacks were incredible, as was the shadow detail. I had thought it might suffer in this department because of the age of the movie, but they did an amazing job in remastering this film. The only gripe I have with the blacks is that this is where the white speckles showed up the most (though in honesty it is relatively rare when you consider the running time is almost 3 hours).
Skin tones were spot on and the facial close-ups were, for the most part, Tier 0 quality. There were some that came up short, but again, this was definitely the exception and not the rule.
The color palette was quite limited (aside from the lush greens mentioned above), but when there were bright colors they were amazingly vivid and natural-looking.
One of the greatest virtues that set this worlds apart from its DVD counterpart was the depth and dimensionality. Be prepared to be WOWED by this in many scenes!
Now for the placement recommendation. It must be penalized for the white speckles, to be sure, and there were some sporadic soft shots here and there that also enter into the mix. But these were not enough to drop this wonderful transfer from reference quality, IMHO. In my mind I kept comparing it to another transfer in Tier 0, namely, Prince Caspian, and to me it should be only a notch or two below that title. If it does find its way into Tier 1, I am of the mind that it will deserve a top ranking of 1.0. But I'm hoping enough members weigh in to give it a place among the best, so my vote is for.....
Tier Recommendation: Bottom third of Tier 0
Pioneer 60" Elite KURO (1080p/24)....Panasonic BD30....Viewed from 8'
I dug these up from early September of 2009 using sorcery. Actually, I cheated a bit and used Braveheart's
known Blu-ray release date to narrow the search.
Djoberg, you apparently agreed back then with frequent PQ Tiers' reviewer 42041 (remember him?) on Braveheart
. I tossed in Deltasun's review because it was so much different than your assessment. I was a little sad to discover in the course of finding your review that forum member 42041 hasn't visited the site in over four years. I pray he's out there somewhere still enjoying movies.
Djoberg, you'd recognize many familiar names from the initial Braveheart discussion in the PQ Tiers. Members such as Rob Tomlin, Patrick99, GeekyGlassesGirl and others all appear. It's hard to believe it's been nearly a decade.