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post #9601 of 9732 Old 09-03-2017, 03:26 AM
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The local Post Office Sorting Center didn't use to honor the "Nearest Netflix Facility" and return discs to, say, Florida or Hawaii from Oregon would take several days.
Then they're violating postal regulations that state that mail may not be knowingly delivered to anyone but the intended recipient. The intended recipient is the "nearest Netflix facility" with the original address there in case there's an issue doing so.

Their charter requires them to send it to the nearest facility. If they fail to do so, complain to the Postmaster every time it fails to happen.

In fact, they shouldn't even be sending it anywhere except to a distribution hub. Netflix picks up the discs themselves.

One trick, if you get slow return service is to drop the disc in a standalone mail drop box before the first daily pickup. Those often bypass local podunk post offices that do little more than pass on mail and usually sends those items to the nearest main distribution center. From there, it's far more likely to get to where Netflix is actually going to pick it up.
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I just tried to watch Wonder Women on Blu ray ( a rental from Netflix) and could not get any audio at all. All other discs played properly. The rep at Netflix says it is because my firmware needs to be updated to comply with new security standards. I checked (I have a Panasonic) and there is no update available. My player is about 4 years old. Has anyone else heard about this?
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I just tried to watch Wonder Women on Blu ray ( a rental from Netflix) and could not get any audio at all. All other discs played properly. The rep at Netflix says it is because my firmware needs to be updated to comply with new security standards. I checked (I have a Panasonic) and there is no update available. My player is about 4 years old. Has anyone else heard about this?
Nonsense. My Panasonic BD player is 7 years old and I rent 2 new releases a week and I have never experienced any playback problems.

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Thumbs down Netflix ships DVD versions when BD's are not avaiable

I complained to Netflix CS about a disc (The Veil) that was originally available in Blu-Ray when I added it to my Que, and for what ever reason was only available in DVD when it was shipped to me. This has happened before. So I contacted them and they said it was policy to send out a DVD if the BD version is not available. I told them I would prefer if they didn't do that and I was told that it wasn't possible since it was my responsibility to monitor my Que and delete any DVD's that haven't shipped yet. So, in the mean time, they are telling me, I have to wait till I get a DVD that I don't want, and send it back before the next available title in my Que is shipped out? You would think they could find away to stop DVD's from being shipped by administering a BD only account at the customer request.

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I complained to Netflix CS about a disc (The Veil) that was originally available in Blu-Ray when I added it to my Que, and for what ever reason was only available in DVD when it was shipped to me. This has happened before. So I contacted them and they said it was policy to send out a DVD if the BD version is not available. I told them I would prefer if they didn't do that and I was told that it wasn't possible since it was my responsibility to monitor my Que and delete any DVD's that haven't shipped yet. So, in the mean time, they are telling me, I have to wait till I get a DVD that I don't want, and send it back before the next available title in my Que is shipped out? You would think they could find away to stop DVD's from being shipped by administering a BD only account at the customer request.

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When I specifically ask for a complimentary disc due to a NF problem they have never denied the request. It's true their system won't kick out the next disc for that "out" until it is marked returned, but by adding a comp/bonus disc to your queue you can get the next disc shipped the next day.

I also do wish that there was a way to subscribe BD only, and have it not show dvd-only stock or add those to the queue.

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I complained to Netflix CS about a disc (The Veil) that was originally available in Blu-Ray when I added it to my Que, and for what ever reason was only available in DVD when it was shipped to me. This has happened before. So I contacted them and they said it was policy to send out a DVD if the BD version is not available. I told them I would prefer if they didn't do that and I was told that it wasn't possible since it was my responsibility to monitor my Que and delete any DVD's that haven't shipped yet. So, in the mean time, they are telling me, I have to wait till I get a DVD that I don't want, and send it back before the next available title in my Que is shipped out? You would think they could find away to stop DVD's from being shipped by administering a BD only account at the customer request.

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I'd say this is just further confirmation that Netflix doesn't see much future in its disc rental service. With their streaming sub count over 50 mil and their disc sub count at maybe 4 mil it's pretty clear to see where their energy is focused. I'd expect to see even more of this in the future; titles go out of stock and are never replaced.
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I'd say this is just further confirmation that Netflix doesn't see much future in its disc rental service. With their streaming sub count over 50 mil and their disc sub count at maybe 4 mil it's pretty clear to see where their energy is focused. I'd expect to see even more of this in the future; titles go out of stock and are never replaced.
Pretty much .. my mantra for the last year or two has been just that .. Hastings vision was a Streaming Only model at the get go .. disks will become a niche market at some point, just like vinyl ..
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I'd say this is just further confirmation that Netflix doesn't see much future in its disc rental service. With their streaming sub count over 50 mil and their disc sub count at maybe 4 mil it's pretty clear to see where their energy is focused. I'd expect to see even more of this in the future; titles go out of stock and are never replaced.
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Pretty much .. my mantra for the last year or two has been just that .. Hastings vision was a Streaming Only model at the get go .. disks will become a niche market at some point, just like vinyl ..
My wife and a co-worker share a Vudu account which I have been using lately. The audio and video quality is close enough to Blu-Ray that I don't mind using the service occasionally to watch the titles that they choose.

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So, several weeks in a row, I send two discs back on Saturday, for receipt Monday. Just one of them is checked in on Monday, with immediate shipment of the next disc in my queue. The other one is placed on hold for a day or two. While it's possible that they are actually getting separated in the mail, with only one envelope arriving, I think they are slowing one of them down. Statistics will build up over time and I'll have my answer...
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I always find it strange- I have a two blu-ray out at a time account. but sometimes they send out three. not complaining but seems very inconsistent sometimes.
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I always find it strange- I have a two blu-ray out at a time account. but sometimes they send out three. not complaining but seems very inconsistent sometimes.

I'm currently on the 5-out. I also tend to monitor my queue very closely. Sometimes when there is a wait on a disc that is next up to ship, Netflix will send a complementary disc (the next available disc) right away and then the next day will ship the disc with a wait from another processing center where that disc is located. (Over the past 15 years I have received an occasional disc from Hawaii, Alaska, Florida, which are a bit distant from Oregon, though more often a non-local disc would come from their main warehouse in California, especially for old cult titles.)

In the past the Queue page was more informative than it is now when there were more discs "at home" than my plan, having a link that would pop up a message like, "A disc you requested was not available locally so it was shipped from another center. We had shipped you the next disc from your queue so you can enjoy it while waiting for the disc you requested." It's been a long time since I had seen that link.



I don't recall ever having more than one "non-local" disc out at a time. Likewise, I don't recall ever having an "at home" disc count more than one above my plan, other than briefly when I reduced the plan size. (For a few years I flipped between 5 and 8 in anticipation of lots of time off to watch movies during the winter holidays and dead time just before Fall Term. Naturally when I went from 8-out to 5-out the "at home" would be at 8 until I had opportunity to watch and return three of the discs to bring the "at home" down to 5.)



There appears to be a bit over a week from sending the non-local disc that the "at home" limit would be temporarily increased by 1, not only Netflix sending a local disc to enjoy while waiting for the non-local disc, but also if additional discs are returned within that time Netflix would send a matching number of local discs. But after a bit over a week or the return of the non-local disc (whichever occurs first), the "at home" limit would come back down to the plan limit.


Could it be the above that you are observing?

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I'm currently on the 5-out. I also tend to monitor my queue very closely. Sometimes when there is a wait on a disc that is next up to ship, Netflix will send a complementary disc (the next available disc) right away and then the next day will ship the disc with a wait from another processing center where that disc is located. (Over the past 15 years I have received an occasional disc from Hawaii, Alaska, Florida, which are a bit distant from Oregon, though more often a non-local disc would come from their main warehouse in California, especially for old cult titles.)

In the past the Queue page was more informative than it is now when there were more discs "at home" than my plan, having a link that would pop up a message like, "A disc you requested was not available locally so it was shipped from another center. We had shipped you the next disc from your queue so you can enjoy it while waiting for the disc you requested." It's been a long time since I had seen that link.



I don't recall ever having more than one "non-local" disc out at a time. Likewise, I don't recall ever having an "at home" disc count more than one above my plan, other than briefly when I reduced the plan size. (For a few years I flipped between 5 and 8 in anticipation of lots of time off to watch movies during the winter holidays and dead time just before Fall Term. Naturally when I went from 8-out to 5-out the "at home" would be at 8 until I had opportunity to watch and return three of the discs to bring the "at home" down to 5.)



There appears to be a bit over a week from sending the non-local disc that the "at home" limit would be temporarily increased by 1, not only Netflix sending a local disc to enjoy while waiting for the non-local disc, but also if additional discs are returned within that time Netflix would send a matching number of local discs. But after a bit over a week or the return of the non-local disc (whichever occurs first), the "at home" limit would come back down to the plan limit.


Could it be the above that you are observing?
probably, I don't keep strict tabs on my disc Que as I should, but maybe it is a crossover of some type- while waiting on the next disc in-line. I will try to pay a bit more attention to it. but I know on a few occasions, that I have had the two discs at home and one more is shipped out.
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Or instead of watching the Queue closely, you could check the addresses on the return portion of the mailers. When you have 3 actually at your home, one of them probably came from a "non-local" processing center.

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I just joined this thread, so excuse me if I'm beating a dead horse. So discs are now a "niche" market. Then it would make sense if NF were to add 4K discs and lock up the market for we "nichers". Since they haven't done that, it seems clear that NF wants discs to die. Tried 3DBR for several months and dropped it when I had watched everything that interested me in their 4K catalog, and nothing appeared in "upcoming" that I wanted to see. I was also spoiled by NF turnaround. There was really no reason to have more than 2Xmonth from 3DBR, since they struggled to get two discs to me in a month. I've also noticed a significant increase in "short wait". So much so that I'm anticipating dropping from 2 at a time to one. The days of getting 3 discs in a week seem to be gone for me in Houston, where we have a NF distribution center.

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I just joined this thread, so excuse me if I'm beating a dead horse. So discs are now a "niche" market. Then it would make sense if NF were to add 4K discs and lock up the market for we "nichers". Since they haven't done that, it seems clear that NF wants discs to die. Tried 3DBR for several months and dropped it when I had watched everything that interested me in their 4K catalog, and nothing appeared in "upcoming" that I wanted to see. I was also spoiled by NF turnaround. There was really no reason to have more than 2Xmonth from 3DBR, since they struggled to get two discs to me in a month. I've also noticed a significant increase in "short wait". So much so that I'm anticipating dropping from 2 at a time to one. The days of getting 3 discs in a week seem to be gone for me in Houston, where we have a NF distribution center.
3DBR will quickly add anything you want. Just give them a link to the disc on Amazon. I do this routinely. Each month I request probably 2-3 discs to be added, on average. I'm on their five per month plan.
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3DBR will quickly add anything you want. Just give them a link to the disc on Amazon. I do this routinely. Each month I request probably 2-3 discs to be added, on average. I'm on their five per month plan.
Very interesting. Certainly makes them a customer-friendly service. I guess your proximity to Ill, and probably a better postal center for notifying 3DBR of your return, makes 5 per month workable. Even when wanting "in stock", I could only make 2 per month. One of the good things about NF has been their relatively rapid shipping from my list. But, that hasn't been the case lately as it seems that they just don't stock as many discs anymore.

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Very interesting. Certainly makes them a customer-friendly service. I guess your proximity to Ill, and probably a better postal center for notifying 3DBR of your return, makes 5 per month workable. Even when wanting "in stock", I could only make 2 per month. One of the good things about NF has been their relatively rapid shipping from my list. But, that hasn't been the case lately as it seems that they just don't stock as many discs anymore.
You can order as many as you want up to the monthly limit at once, so turn around time doesn't matter with 3DBR. Like, if a TV series releases I may order 3 discs at once out of my 5 disc quota.
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So discs are now a "niche" market. Then it would make sense if NF were to add 4K discs and lock up the market for we "nichers". Since they haven't done that, it seems clear that NF wants discs to die.
NF has nothing to do with the continued decline in disk sales .. the Viewers vote with their wallet .. much like they did when audio CD's went into decline .. highly unlikely NF will add 4K to the catalog .. the trend is toward all streaming ..

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^^^ OK, we did it. I wonder when "Dunkirk" will be available on 4K, 3D audio instant download? Oh well, Fandango for $6.99 today. Dunkirk Blu ray shipping today to me from NF. Be interesting to see if 3D audio on the disc.

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^^^ OK, we did it. I wonder when "Dunkirk" will be available on 4K, 3D audio instant download? Oh well, Fandango for $6.99 today. Dunkirk Blu ray shipping today to me from NF. Be interesting to see if 3D audio on the disc.
I don't think the We that dwell here did it .. in fact, I'm disappointed in the general direction of things .. however, in this Brave New World, the bulk of the populace believes convenience tends to trump quality .. and, DVD still outsells BD ..
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I don't think the We that dwell here did it .. in fact, I'm disappointed in the general direction of things .. however, in this Brave New World, the bulk of the populace believes convenience tends to trump quality .. and, DVD still outsells BD ..
"We that dwell here" Love it Pretty well sums up the state of the World. The few people that know are prisoner to the many that don't know.

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"We that dwell here" Love it Pretty well sums up the state of the World. The few people that know are prisoner to the many that don't know.
It's either don't know or don't care .. I think, these days, many just say "Hey, let's rent something tonight .." .. they can access a stream or On Demand easily and quickly, who cares if it's a little expensive, they get it immediately, no need to go to a Box or a B&M or wait for a disk by mail .. in addition, the studios encourage that by releasing a stream prior to a disk coming out as well on some material ..

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^^^ OK, we did it. I wonder when "Dunkirk" will be available on 4K, 3D audio instant download? Oh well, Fandango for $6.99 today. Dunkirk Blu ray shipping today to me from NF. Be interesting to see if 3D audio on the disc.
My service can send you Dunkirk 4K, and others, cheap (under $3).

And Dunkirk doesn't have "3D" audio (object-oriented I guess you mean). No Nolan film does...
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My service can send you Dunkirk 4K, and others, cheap (under $3).

And Dunkirk doesn't have "3D" audio (object-oriented I guess you mean). No Nolan film does...
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You are right about that. In fact, the NF version I got had very little information in the surround channels.
And here I was expecting something that had the depth of Saving Private Ryan and Band Of Brothers.

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And here I was expecting something that had the depth of Saving Private Ryan and Band Of Brothers.

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My system extracted quite a bit of Surround .. especially on the Dog Fights .. I was happy with it, although I can't speak for the NF or RB version as I rented the BD at Family Video ..

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My system extracted quite a bit of Surround .. especially on the Dog Fights .. I was happy with it, although I can't speak for the NF or RB version as I rented the BD at Family Video ..
I haven't watched it yet, but since it is in DTS MA, I should get the same results. Thanks.

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Same recent experience for me as well.

In case others didn't see the press release of yesterday, Netflix has entered in to a partnership with LG to build a video download box.
Perhaps they have cut-down on the amount of copies per title in anticipation of this?
Download box? People getting into this will be supporting the end of Blu ray and promoting the success of low quality movies instead so when you get one...don't complain....actually don't complain about anything you stream...especially if it doesn't work at all.


I notice LG is in this so they're supporting low quality too...I'll make sure not to buy anything related to LG and while I'm at it Vizio too...for cutting the cord on cord cutters. Time for people to start protesting about low quality...I'm surprised how many people actually love and support it....sheep.
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Good to know I’m not the only one protesting and resisting streaming.

I’m happy to drive to a local RedBox after I reserved a copy of BD I want to watch. Not a big deal.
And when I used to use the service, i only paid for Netflix on BD deliveries, never enrolled to streaming.

I think physical copy and it’s quality... to me is “Gold” standard... where steaming is like “Gold plating” version of same thing, and it’s sad but my wife and my other friends could care less if it’s a BD and just choose to stream...
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Good to know I’m not the only one protesting and resisting streaming.

I’m happy to drive to a local RedBox after I reserved a copy of BD I want to watch. Not a big deal.
And when I used to use the service, i only paid for Netflix on BD deliveries, never enrolled to streaming.

I think physical copy and it’s quality... to me is “Gold” standard... where steaming is like “Gold plating” version of same thing, and it’s sad but my wife and my other friends could care less if it’s a BD and just choose to stream...
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